Re: This week's summary => Perl 6 perlplexities

2005-11-15 Thread Michele Dondi
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Perl 6 perlplexities Michele Dondi worries that the increase in complexity of some aspects of Perl 6 is much bigger than the increase in functionality that the complexity buys us. In particular Michele is concerned that the Perl 6 pa

Announcing "Amber for Parrot 0.3.1 (Magic cookies)"

2005-11-15 Thread Roger Browne
I have released "Amber for Parrot" version 0.3.1 (Magic cookies): Downloads: http://xamber.org/download.html Release history: http://xamber.org/history.html Project home page: http://xamber.org/index.html "Amber for Parrot" is an Eiffel-like scripting language for the Parrot Virtual Machine. Cha

Re: This week's summary

2005-11-15 Thread Leopold Toetsch
On Nov 15, 2005, at 17:24, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The Perl 6 Summary for the fortnight ending 2005-11-13 "string_bitwise_*" Leo, it seems to boil down to a choice between throwing an exception or simply mashing everything together and marking the 'resulting bit mess'

Call frame introspection (was Re: PDD20 - Call frames as PMCs)

2005-11-15 Thread Chip Salzenberg
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 10:17:30AM +0100, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > Autrijus mentioned on #parrot that we'd need weak pointers at some > time. Then we can reconsider callframe PMCs. Ah, weak pointers. I remember a time without weak pointers. It was a happy time. Birds chirped in the trees

Re: HLL Debug Segments

2005-11-15 Thread Dave Whipp
Will Coleda wrote: Right, the hard bit here was that I needed to specify something other than "file". Just agreeing that we need something other than just "file/line". I'd have thought the onus is the other way: justify the use of "file/line" as the primitive concept. We're going to have

Re: This week's summary

2005-11-15 Thread Roger Browne
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 16:24 +, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: > ...Roger Browne (whose name I keep wanting to use as a Clerihew)... Thanks for the summaries, Piers! Here's a Clerihew for you: Roger Browne took his Parrot to town Wearing an upside-down Amber crown >:) How to w

Re: Making parrot portable

2005-11-15 Thread Chip Salzenberg
On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 05:19:49PM +0100, Florian Ragwitz wrote: > After I've collected enough informations I'll start implementing the > necessary changes. I hope it'll be done by the end of this week. I'm not > sure how I should handle that though. I guess it might break parrot > building for a w

This week's summary

2005-11-15 Thread The Perl 6 Summarizer
The Perl 6 Summary for the fortnight ending 2005-11-13 Welcome to another fortnight's worth of summary. We'll get back to a weekly schedule one of these fine days, you see if we don't. This fortnight in perl6-compiler There was a surprisingly large amount of activity on the list, but

[perl #37684] [RFE] Give parrot a -c-like option

2005-11-15 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Will Coleda # Please include the string: [perl #37684] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=37684 > It would be somewhat helpful if parrot supported an option like perl's -c that verifie

Re: HLL Debug Segments

2005-11-15 Thread Roger Browne
Leopold Toetsch wrote: > I'd much more prefer that a compiler (amber anyone ;) just emits PIR > with debug syntax so that folks get a feeling how it looks like... OK, I've done this. I have modified the Amber compiler to generate PIR code that contains debug directives, so that we can discuss a

Re: [perl #37651] [PATCH] Add $LINK_DYNAMIC when linking pbc_merge

2005-11-15 Thread Jonathan Worthington
"Francois PERRAD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >This patch is required for pbc_merge on some platforms (HP-UX is the >one that I see it on), particularly when creating tcllib. Same problem on Win32, but this patch doesn't solve it with MinGW. Yup, I know about this problem. We shouldn't be loa

a note WRT PASM/PIR compiler end encodings

2005-11-15 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Tonight on #parrot: 03:15 <@mdiep> meaning that imcc doesn't know it's being feed utf8 instead of ascii 03:16 <@Coke> mdiep: B***it. it knows the encoding of the string. *) Parrot's compilers take plain old C-strings and don't know anything about the charset/encoding of the string - but read

Re: HLL Debug Segments

2005-11-15 Thread Joshua Hoblitt
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 10:25:07AM +0100, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > > On Nov 15, 2005, at 10:04, Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon wrote: > > >Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Because a compiler can emit it right now w/o any change to Parrot. > > > >That's an advantage for the week it take

Re: HLL Debug Segments

2005-11-15 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 11:07:55PM -, Jonathan Worthington wrote: > "Leopold Toetsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Nov 14, 2005, at 0:02, Jonathan Worthington wrote: > > > >>* I'm thinking of a PIR syntax along the lines of this:- > > > >The discussion goes forth and back, like all other di

Re: [perl #37651] [PATCH] Add $LINK_DYNAMIC when linking pbc_merge

2005-11-15 Thread Francois PERRAD
At 08:08 10/11/2005 -0800, you wrote: # New Ticket Created by Nick Glencross # Please include the string: [perl #37651] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=37651 > This patch is required for pbc_merge on some pl

Re: HLL Debug Segments

2005-11-15 Thread Leopold Toetsch
On Nov 15, 2005, at 10:04, Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon wrote: Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Because a compiler can emit it right now w/o any change to Parrot. That's an advantage for the week it takes to implement the feature. For the remaining age of the universe, Err, I didn'

Re: PDD20: An idea: Call frames as PMCs

2005-11-15 Thread Leopold Toetsch
On Nov 15, 2005, at 4:28, Chip Salzenberg wrote: On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 11:33:07AM +0100, Leopold Toetsch wrote: OK, call frame as PMC looks like a non-starter. Consider it rescinded. Autrijus mentioned on #parrot that we'd need weak pointers at some time. Then we can reconsider callfra

Re: HLL Debug Segments

2005-11-15 Thread Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon
Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 15, 2005, at 0:07, Jonathan Worthington wrote: > > What's the fascination with overloading comment syntax? > > Because a compiler can emit it right now w/o any change to Parrot. That's an advantage for the week it takes to implement the feature.

Re: HLL Debug Segments

2005-11-15 Thread Leopold Toetsch
On Nov 15, 2005, at 0:07, Jonathan Worthington wrote: What's the fascination with overloading comment syntax? Because a compiler can emit it right now w/o any change to Parrot. Jonathan leo