Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-28 Thread Melvin Smith
>Well, I'm not really interested in Perl at all. If all Parrot can do is >allow me to write a languge that is basically Perl, then I'm not interested >in Parrot either. > >I think it may be a good idea to wait until the Parrot folks have their >product and web site a little better documented and

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-28 Thread Simon Cozens
On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 10:03:53AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, I'm not really interested in Perl at all. If all Parrot can do is > allow me to write a languge that is basically Perl, then I'm not interested > in Parrot either. To be fair, Uri did say "and other dynamic languages". And

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-28 Thread David . Leeper
Uri Guttman cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Uri Guttman
> "DL" == David Leeper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DL> If I know what I want to destroy and when, can I just turn off Parrot's DL> automatic garbage collector/memory compactor and send it instructons on DL> what I want deleted? i have to jump in here because i am seeing the classic dis

RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Melvin Smith
>This is exactly the right way to do things in Java. In Java, you >can open hundreds of files, and never trigger any gc, since each >file object is very small. Unless you explicit close file, you >will be dead very quickly. Although your point is taken, I think in this case it is the programmer

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Dan Sugalski
> > Dan >Sugalski > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: >[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > cc: >[EMAIL PR

RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Hong Zhang
> This changes the way a programmer writes code. A C++ class > and function that uses the class looks like this: > > class A > { > public: > A(){...grab some resources...} > ~A(){...release the resources...} > } > > void f() > { > A a; > ... use a's resources ... > } > > ..

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Dan Sugalski
ing with those objects as you've already destroyed them and thus left nothing for the DOD sweep to do) > "Bryan >C. > > Warnock" To: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Hong Zhang
> I believe the main difficulty comes from heading into uncharted waters. For > example, once you've decided to make garbage collection optional, what does > the following line of code mean? > > delete x; If the above code is compiled to Parrot, it probably equivalent to x->~Destructor()

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Bryan C. Warnock
On Friday 25 January 2002 13:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks for the nice example, except I understand the issue you > > are speaking of, I was basically asking what parts of it do you think > > are more "difficult" to implement than any other major construct? > > I believe the main diffic

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Melvin Smith
Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/25/2002 12:45 Subject: Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Melvin Smith
>From what I've seen, supporting both garbage collection and true stack >variables is a difficult task. Why is that? -Melvin Smith IBM :: Atlanta Innovation Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: 770-835-6984

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Simon Cozens
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 10:18:56AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 1) Does Parrot support multiple inheritance? > 2) Does Parrot support stack variables or is everything allocated on the > heap? There's an easy way to answer these questions for yourself. "Does Parrot support X?" == "Does any la

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
Thanks to everyone for their information on Parrot. A couple more questions have come to mind. 1) Does Parrot support multiple inheritance? 2) Does Parrot support stack variables or is everything allocated on the heap? Thanks again. Dave

RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? (fwd)

2002-01-24 Thread Josh Wilmes
Who is the keeper of the FAQ? This is gold. --Josh --- Forwarded Messages Date:Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:35:05 -0800 From:"Brent Dax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot?

2002-01-24 Thread Bryan C. Warnock
On Thursday 24 January 2002 14:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've been watching the Parrot development with interest and have a few > questions about Parrots capabilities. Brent and Dan have already answered, so I'm going to be so foolish as to answer, too. >Will Parrot support operator ov

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot?

2002-01-24 Thread Dan Sugalski
[Brent's answered some of these already, but I'll fill in the blanks. Also some of the answers presume a fully-implemented engine, which we don't have yet] At 2:52 PM -0500 1/24/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I've been watching the Parrot development with interest and have a few >questions about

RE: How Powerful Is Parrot?

2002-01-24 Thread David . Leeper
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RE: How Powerful Is Parrot?

2002-01-24 Thread Brent Dax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: # I've been watching the Parrot development with interest and have a few # questions about Parrots capabilities. # #Will Parrot support templates (also known as generics)? If you mean like C++ templates, then the answer is that it's up to the language. There won't be anyth