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Those of us with subs to perl6-all will get
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On Nov 07, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> Lacking a decent C++ compiler isn't necessarily a strike against
> VMS--to be a strike against, there'd actually have to *be* a decent
> C++ compiler...
Doesn't VMS have a /bin/false?
- Kurt
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 01:36:07PM -0600, Me wrote:
: > is *1* _all_ that topic is about ?
:
: Sorta. To quote an excellent summary:
:
: "Topic is $_".
A "real" topicalizer also sets a topicalizer scope that can be broken out of.
: > also
: >
: > @a := ( $a, $b)
:
: Er, I don't think
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 04:16:50PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
: At 8:29 PM +0100 11/7/02, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
: >Michael Lazzaro wrote:
: >
: >>
: >>On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Austin Hastings wrote:
: >>
: >>>For 'bit', the key value is (eenie, meenie, ...) '1'.
: >
: >
: >> Fr
On 2002-11-07 at 15:28:14, Luke Palmer wrote:
> > From: "Mark J. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Will something like that not be possible in Perl6?
>
> I'm afraid that statement is false for all values of "something" :)
Good point. Erratum: for
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On 2002-11-07 at 17:07:46, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> Attributes are class-specific for a variable (okay, class instance
> specific, if
[responding to several of the most recent posts]
Let's table discussion of the details for a few days until we get the
perl6-documentation list set up. Then we can dig into planning out the
scope and goals of the project, and what roles various people might
take.
Allison
At 3:56 PM -0600 11/7/02, Garrett Goebel wrote:
Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 8:29 PM +0100 11/7/02, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>Michael Lazzaro wrote:
>>On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Austin Hastings wrote:
>>
>>>For 'bit', the key value is (eenie, meenie, ...) '1'.
>
>> From A2 we ha
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 03:56:04PM -0600, Garrett Goebel wrote:
> Dan Sugalski wrote:
> > At 8:29 PM +0100 11/7/02, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> > >Michael Lazzaro wrote:
> > >>On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Austin Hastings wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>For 'bit', the key value is (eenie, meenie,
Dan Sugalski wrote:
> At 8:29 PM +0100 11/7/02, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> >Michael Lazzaro wrote:
> >>On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Austin Hastings wrote:
> >>
> >>>For 'bit', the key value is (eenie, meenie, ...) '1'.
> >
> >> From A2 we have:
> >>
> >>"Run-time properties really ar
Damian:
> ["it" will be passed to about 5% of subs,
> regardless of whether the context is your
> 10 line scripts or my large modules]
If the syntax for passing "it" to a sub
remains as verbose as it currently is,
you are probably right that "it" won't
be used to achieve brevity! I think it's
a
At 8:29 PM +0100 11/7/02, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
Michael Lazzaro wrote:
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Austin Hastings wrote:
For 'bit', the key value is (eenie, meenie, ...) '1'.
From A2 we have:
"Run-time properties really are associated with the object in
question, whi
Luke Palmer wrote:
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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 20:48:50 +1100
From: Damian Conway <
At 1:27 PM -0800 11/6/02, Brad Hughes wrote:
Flaviu Turean wrote:
[...]
5. if you want to wait for the computing platforms before programming in
p6, then there is quite a wait ahead. how about platforms which will never
catch up? VMS, anyone?
Not to start an OS war thread or anything, but why d
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> > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 20:48:50 +1100
> > From: Damian Conway <[E
> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 20:48:50 +1100
> From: Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> we could make it lazy thus:
>
> sub a_pure_func(Num $n) is lazy returns Num {
> return $n ** $n
> }
>
> which would cause any invocation of C to cache
> its arguments (probably in a closure
Me writes:
> In the hope this saves Allison time, and/or
> clarifies things for me, I'll attempt some
> answers.
>
Thanks .
> > In your article at perl.com you describes
> > various ways and situations when perl
> > creates a topic and this is described as
> > perl making the following
Michael Lazzaro wrote:
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Austin Hastings wrote:
For 'bit', the key value is (eenie, meenie, ...) '1'.
From A2 we have:
"Run-time properties really are associated with the object in question,
which implies some amount of overhead. For that reaso
In the hope this saves Allison time, and/or
clarifies things for me, I'll attempt some
answers.
> In your article at perl.com you describes
> various ways and situations when perl
> creates a topic and this is described as
> perl making the following binding on my behalf:
>
> $_ := $some_var ;
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 at 10:38 -0800, Michael Lazzaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I dunno anymore, maybe we need to rethink what place there is for
> public domain docs at all. Perhaps we just have a man page that says
> "buy the damn books, you cheapskate" and be done with it.
I trust you were joking, r
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 03:44 AM, Angel Faus wrote:
1) We find a team of volunteers who are willing to "own" the
task of converting each Apocalypse into a complete design. If
nobody wants to write the Perl 6 user manual, then we might as well
I would prefer to work from perl5 docum
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Austin Hastings wrote:
For 'bit', the key value is (eenie, meenie, ...) '1'.
Any '1' value will trigger a search for undef bit values. Presuming
that bit values will not frequently be undef, the search should be
cheap and the storage requirements will
--- Michael Lazzaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Primitive types were originally intended for runtime speed, thus an
> "int" or a "bit" is as small as possible, and not a lot of weird
> runtime
> checking has to take place that would slow it down. It can't even be
> undef, because that would tak
I just want to be sure I understand correctly :
In your article at perl.com you describes various ways and situations
when perl creates a topic and this is described as perl making the
following binding on my behalf:
$_ := $some_var ; *1*
and probably marking $_ with some additional properti
>1) We find a team of volunteers who are willing to "own" the
> task of converting each Apocalypse into a complete design. If
> nobody wants to write the Perl 6 user manual, then we might as well
> give up and go home now. So far we only need to find four, though,
> so it Might Just Work.
I w
Flaviu Turean wrote:
[...]
5. if you want to wait for the computing platforms before programming in
p6, then there is quite a wait ahead. how about platforms which will never
catch up? VMS, anyone?
Not to start an OS war thread or anything, but why do people still have
this mistaken impression o
Michael Lazzaro wrote:
If anyone knows the answer to these two questions, I'd appreciate it.
Only Larry "knows". But I'm prepared to take an educated guess.
1) What do these do?
my int $n = 5; # OK
Yes.
my int $n = 5.005; # trunc or err?
Truncate to 5 with optio
Piers Cawley mused:
The idea being that, when you do
a_pure_func($val1|$val2|$val3)
instead of Perl going away and doing the calculation right away, you
get back a 'special' superposition
Remember to s/superposition/junction/g. For this week, at least ;-)
> which stores an 'invocation
Piers Cawley pointed out:
%a_students = grep {.key ~~ :i/^a/}, %grades.kv;
I think you could probably get away without the .kv there since, in a
list context you're going to get a list of pairs anyway.
In fact, the code is invalid as it stands. The following variations
work as desired:
%a_s
ralph wrote:
My estimate (based on the -- not inconsiderable --
code base of my own modules) is closer to 5%.
Your estimate of what others will do when
knocking out 10 line scripts in a hurry,
or what's in your current p5 modules?
Both.
Can currying include the given topic?
sub bar is
Michael Lazzaro wrote:
[...some good points...]
> and has resulted in us revisiting decisions *repeatedly*
Simon Cozens wrote:
[...some good ideas...]
> [1] You can tell I've been rereading MMM...
Maybe there's some benefit to be had from revisiting old material? :-)
I can't think of any non-tr
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