Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Richard J Cox
On Friday, January 10, 2003, 9:05:42 PM, you (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Universe 2 (pro-unicode): If we had a Unicode 'squiggly arrow' operator, then however it looks on everybody's display, it ought to at least look like some kind of squiggly arrow. U+21DC Leftwards Squiggle Arrow

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread David Storrs
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 11:50:14AM +, Richard J Cox wrote: U+21DC Leftwards Squiggle Arrow and U+21DE Rightwards Squiggle Arrow would seem to fit the bill rather well maybe the ascii ~ and ~ are merely aliases of the true symbols? If we go this route, I would suggest that we use

Re: Variable Types Vs Value Types

2003-01-13 Thread Piers Cawley
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 1:10 PM + 1/6/03, Piers Cawley wrote: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An object is a data type, as much as an array or hash is a data type, but that doesn't make an array an object. [insert obligatory all men are Socratese quote here) I

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Mr. Nobody
--- David Storrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 11:50:14AM +, Richard J Cox wrote: U+21DC Leftwards Squiggle Arrow and U+21DE Rightwards Squiggle Arrow would seem to fit the bill rather well maybe the ascii ~ and ~ are merely aliases of the true symbols?

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Buddha Buck
Mr. Nobody wrote: Unicode operators in the core are a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very bad idea. We've already had this discussion. We wouldn't be bringing up using unicode operators for this function if we hadn't already talked about unicode

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Mr. Nobody
--- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Nobody wrote: Unicode operators in the core are a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very bad idea. We've already had this discussion. We wouldn't be bringing up using unicode operators for this

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Austin Hastings
--- Mr. Nobody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Nobody wrote: Unicode operators in the core are a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very bad idea. We've already had this discussion. We wouldn't be

Re: Variable Types Vs Value Types

2003-01-13 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 6:35 PM + 1/13/03, Piers Cawley wrote: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 1:10 PM + 1/6/03, Piers Cawley wrote: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An object is a data type, as much as an array or hash is a data type, but that doesn't make an array an object. [insert

RE: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Mr. Nobody
--- Thom Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Nobody [EMAIL PROTECTED] says: Unicode operators in the core are a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very bad idea. OK, now I think I know how _you_ would vote on the subject of Unicode operators. But would

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:52 AM -0800 1/13/03, Austin Hastings wrote: --- Mr. Nobody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Nobody wrote: Unicode operators in the core are a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very bad idea.

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Mr. Nobody
--- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Nobody wrote: --- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Nobody wrote: Unicode operators in the core are a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very bad idea. We've already had this discussion.

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Austin Hastings
--- Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:52 AM -0800 1/13/03, Austin Hastings wrote: --- Mr. Nobody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Nobody wrote: Unicode operators in the core are a very, very, very, very, very, very,

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 11:19 AM -0800 1/13/03, Austin Hastings wrote: So the real question should be What kind of upgrade path are we providing for converting these tired old multigraphs into single uniglyphs? Ah, that's a different question. Having Unicode synonyms may well be considered reasonable thing, though

Re: L2R/R2L syntax (was Re: Everything is an object.)

2003-01-13 Thread Smylers
Mr. Nobody wrote: --- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Nobody wrote: --- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've already had this discussion. So if we already talked about why they're such a terrible idea, why are people still proposing them for other