Re: %_ - is it available for use?

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
david nicol wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] perl -le '$_{a}=27; package notmain; print $_{a}' 27 Gosh! Let's document it! Would it go in perlvar or perlsyn? It's already documented, in perlvar/Technical Note on the Syntax of Variable Names (at the end)

Re: %_ - is it available for use?

2003-08-06 Thread Michael S. Joyce
Odd. I always though that you could do that. Maybe it was just an assumption I made without understanding. I've used %_ in one liners to remove duplicates and other such fun. Michael On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 21:36, david nicol wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 18:33, Michael G Schwern wrote:

Re: %_ - is it available for use?

2003-08-06 Thread david nicol
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 18:33, Michael G Schwern wrote: Representing the Backwards Compatiblity Police, I've had co-workers use %_ as the globalist of all global hashes. %_ transends all packages and scopes and Perl does not localize it, touch it or use it as it does @_ and $_. In the

Re: %_ - is it available for use?

2003-08-02 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From a Perl 6 perspective, it seems likely that C%_ will be the name commonly used for the slurpy hash of a subroutine. Just as C@_ will often be the name used for the slurpy array. See Exegesis 6 for more details. Indeed, when it comes to object

Re: %_ - is it available for use?

2003-08-02 Thread Michael G Schwern
Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hence, making C%_ mean something different in core Perl 5 might possibly be forwards incompatible. Representing the Backwards Compatiblity Police, I've had co-workers use %_ as the globalist of all global hashes. %_ transends all packages and scopes

Re: %_ - is it available for use?

2003-08-02 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 01:37:16AM +0200, Abigail wrote: I am fond of doing local %_ = @_; as one of the first statements of a subroutine. That, or my %args = @_; I like the latter because it uses a lexical variable, but I like the former because %_ fits with @_ and $_.

Re: %_ - is it available for use?

2003-08-02 Thread Larry Wall
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 04:33:19PM -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: : I'm not making an argument against %_, just noting that *_ is used : opportunisticly and you will break a few programs. Not necessarily. If Perl 6 were to use %_ as parameter name, it would be lexically scoped, and hide any

Re: %_ - is it available for use?

2003-08-02 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 08:16:19PM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 04:33:19PM -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: : I'm not making an argument against %_, just noting that *_ is used : opportunisticly and you will break a few programs. Not necessarily. If Perl 6 were to use %_

%_ - is it available for use?

2003-08-01 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
We have been discussing how to pass data to Tk callbacks. In particular Entry widget validation routines. There are a number of items that they _might_ be interested in but a typical routine would only use a few. Currently it passes them all as positional parameters. One idea that occured to

Re: %_ - is it available for use?

2003-08-01 Thread Damian Conway
Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: We have been discussing how to pass data to Tk callbacks. In particular Entry widget validation routines. There are a number of items that they _might_ be interested in but a typical routine would only use a few. Currently it passes them all as positional parameters. One