Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Hooman Mehr
Hi Omid and Connie, MSDN way of specifying Hijri calendar is like saying the length of any month in Gregorian calendar is 30 days plus or minus two days -- true but not very useful. Alright my example is grossly exaggerated, but I mean to highlight my point. The official "Iranian Islamic Calendar

RE: IranL10nInfo

2004-05-17 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
> Iranian guys, would you please do a short statistical survey? I've never come across Amordad. And I was born in (A)Mordad... Ehsan ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Ali A Khanban
Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Sat, 15 May 2004, C Bobroff wrote: Can you please be sure to mention in the documentation somewhere also about the Shaahanshaahi calendar and how to convert and what's its official name was and abbreviations, if any? That will be nice if that system also makes its way

Re: IranL10nInfo

2004-05-17 Thread Masoud Sharbiani
I've seen it in the calendars. Masoud On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 07:47:31AM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > Iranian guys, would you please do a short statistical survey? > > > On Sun, 16 May 2004, Omid K. Rad wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 May 2004, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > > > > > It is still "Amo

RE: Miscellaneous web issues

2004-05-17 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
Hi Connie, > 1. When viewed on WinXP/IE6, look what happens when you mouseover the > Persian words at the end (i.e. left margin) of each line. You also > pick up the space to the right of the first word in that line. > Similarly, if you attempt to mouseover the first word in the line and > are jus

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 01:41, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > You are self-conflicting yourself. I define consensus as 100% > vote of the talking community, and again I say we have reached a > consensus here. Take a poll, then. roozbeh ___ PersianComputing m

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 00:33, C Bobroff wrote: > Can you please be sure to mention in the documentation somewhere also > about the Shaahanshaahi calendar and how to convert We don't know that. Exact questions are: when exactly did the calendar become official? And when did it cease to be the offici

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 15:39, Ali A Khanban wrote: > "Shaahanshaahi calendar" was introduced in 1355 and abolished in 1357. When exactly? I know that not all of 1357 was known as "2537". roozbeh ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

RE: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:15, Omid K. Rad wrote: > In Iran we use the Iranian subtype of the Persian calendar, > and in Afghanistan the Jalali subtype is used. I don't get you. Afghanistan clearly doesn't use a "Jalali" subtype. Their current leap year algorithm is synced with the Gregorian system,

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:56, Hooman Mehr wrote: > I think we should avoid solar / lunar > designations in the English name to make it more meaningful and less > confusing for none-Iranians. I don't agree. One can't reduce confusion by being less specific. People who work on calendars already kno

RE: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 02:13, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > I've heard they use the same > calendar, is it right? I've heard that they celebrate Nowrooz, like the Azerbaijani people, but that's all. They use the Gregorian calendar. roozbeh ___ PersianComput

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 11:55, Hooman Mehr wrote: > It comes upwith an initial estimate (or best guess) of the *adjusted* > calendarwhich is usually only re-adjusted for Ramadan. ... and Shawwal. > This pre-adjustedcalendar is not the same as the basic table in MSDN, > nor the mostlyobservational H

RE: Miscellaneous web issues

2004-05-17 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 17:44, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > Those are the BOM marks for UTF-8. Notepad injects them under your nose, > and that's one of the reasons I avoid Notepad. Frontpage text editor does > not have that problem. > > A small note: what Notepad does here is *correct*, because it can

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Ali A Khanban
Roozbeh Pournader wrote: On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 15:39, Ali A Khanban wrote: "Shaahanshaahi calendar" was introduced in 1355 and abolished in 1357. When exactly? I know that not all of 1357 was known as "2537". In Early 1357 it was abolished. Does it really matter? It is only a historica

Re: Miscellaneous web issues

2004-05-17 Thread Behnam
On 16-May-04, at 9:16 PM, C Bobroff wrote: 6. I embedded the fonts again. Looks beautiful on WInXP/IE6 and limited others. I presume it looks terrible on the rest. Still thinking about what to do about that. Behnam, how's the Tajik looking on your Mac? -Connie __

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Hooman Mehr
Hi, Thank you for the refinements and clarifications. Maybe I've used to the old Mac OS calendar API which used to correctly support dates way before Gregorian calendar existed (even before Christian era). On the other hand, even if you reduce my suggested number to 2000 days, you'll find diffe

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Mon, 17 May 2004, Hooman Mehr wrote: > P.S.: Although Hijri calendar (and definition of the prayer times) look > very strange and primitive, there is a very good philosophical reason > behind it which makes sense once you know it. Do you know the reason or > want to know it? Yeah, the reason i

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread C Bobroff
On Mon, 17 May 2004, Hooman Mehr wrote: > P.S.: Although Hijri calendar (and definition of the prayer times) look > very strange and primitive, there is a very good philosophical reason > behind it which makes sense once you know it. Do you know the reason or > want to know it? Please continue.

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread C Bobroff
On Mon, 17 May 2004, Ali A Khanban wrote: > "Shaahanshaahi calendar" was introduced in 1355 and abolished in 1357. > It was simply a map: > Add 1180 to "Iranian" calendar". But is that the official name? I might have just made that up. Abbreviations?? -Connie ___

Re: Miscellaneous web issues

2004-05-17 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 16 May 2004, C Bobroff wrote: > 2. When viewed on WinXP/Mozilla1.7a, the ZWNJ's completely throw off my > mouseover javascript program. It "can not find" words with ZWNJ. And look > what happens if you mouseover the Tajik eqivalent: it displays the Persian > word ok but no ZWNJ. This probl

Re: Miscellaneous web issues

2004-05-17 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 16 May 2004, C Bobroff wrote: > 1. When viewed on WinXP/IE6, look what happens when you mouseover the > Persian words at the end (i.e. left margin) of each line. You also pick up > the space to the right of the first word in that line. Similarly, if you > attempt to mouseover the first wor

RE: Miscellaneous web issues

2004-05-17 Thread C Bobroff
On Mon, 17 May 2004, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: First of all, thank you very much for all the patient and lengthy explanations. Very nice of you to share so many tips! (Thanks to the others too who answered on and off list!) > parent block tag's direction is ltr. If you apply the direction to a block

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread hameed afssari
Microsoft Lunar Hijri calendar is based on Calculation of Saudi Arabian Authority and not Kuwait as Saudi Arabia is the only country that relies heavily on LUnar Hijri calendar instead of gregorian in all Arab and Islamic world. In fact SA authority usually request built in customization for pra

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread C Bobroff
On Mon, 17 May 2004, Ali A Khanban wrote: > Of course, it is possible to find the exact date, for example by looking > at the archive of "Ettela'at" or "Kayhan" newspapers, and see when the > date in their title changes. Unfortunately, I don't have access to them > at the moment, maybe later. ok,

Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Ordak D. Coward
After reading the recent discussion on Iranian Calendar and its support in .NET, I have a few suggestions: - As the lunar calendar in Iran is observation based, there is no way to have an exact conversion for a date in future to/from lunar calendar. However, it is possible to do so for past dates.

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread C Bobroff
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Ordak D. Coward wrote: > - Birashk's book. He had published a book on his work, if memory > serves me, it was called 'taarikh-tatbighi-ye Iran'. Looks like the English version of this book is on sale if you're interested: http://www.mazdapublishers.com/Comparative-Calendar.h

Re: Iranian Calendar

2004-05-17 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Hi Ordak, Lemme welcome you to our list. Comments below. On Tue, 18 May 2004, Ordak D. Coward wrote: > - As the lunar calendar in Iran is observation based, there is no way > to have an exact conversion for a date in future to/from lunar > calendar. However, it is possible to do so for past da