Load balancing DHCP (dsl and cable)

2004-09-28 Thread Matt Sellers
Hi guys... I tried to use the example in PF's FAQ for load balacning between two DHCP connections in my apartment. From the results of my efforts i can only assume the second connection just isnt being used at all. I also think im having problems with my default gateway becuase traffic is not

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sep 28, 2004, at 2:13 AM, Siju George wrote: I changed the block-policy from return to drop. Now my ports except 113 are showing up as stealthed while twsting from http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2 The Port 113 was opened because the PF FAQ asked to open it for SMTP Auth/Ident (TCP port

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Siju George
Hi Jason! Thanks for the reply! But if I can get port 113 also in adaptive stealth mode like Zonealarm did then it would be better isn't it? regards Siju

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Daniel Hartmeier
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 04:46:40PM +0530, Siju George wrote: But if I can get port 113 also in adaptive stealth mode like Zonealarm did then it would be better isn't it? Not really. It can give a false sense of security, because you assume the 'adaptive' part can't be tricked by the attacker.

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Oliver Humpage
on 28/9/04 12:16 pm, Siju George at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jason! Thanks for the reply! But if I can get port 113 also in adaptive stealth mode like Zonealarm did then it would be better isn't it? If you're just trying to hide, then no. Personally I send RSTs on blocked ports,

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Volker Kindermann
Hi Siju, The Port 113 was opened because the PF FAQ asked to open it for SMTP Auth/Ident (TCP port 113): used by some services such as SMTP and IRC. ICMP Echo Requests: the ICMP packet type used by ping(8). I know that this is in the pf faq but I don't think that you really need it. I

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Lars Hansson
Siju George wrote: I was using Zone Alarm before on a Windows200 Firewall. All its ports were shown as Stealthed but still SMTP server access was possible! So further digging I got this explanation from the website that conducted the test. Adaptive Stealthing means that when a TCP SYN packet

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Siju George
Thankyou Oliver for the reply and Explanation! It was very informative. I'll also try the S/SAFR thing and see how it works! God bless you warm regards Siju

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Siju George
I know that this is in the pf faq but I don't think that you really need it. I don't know about IRC but you mentioned only SMTP on your side. I'm running emailservers for years now and never ran an identd. And my clients don't have an identd running either. I don't think that you need this

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Siju George
People who say identd is a source of severe information leakage does not understand what ident does. If you feel paranoid, as I do, you can always configure it to return random usernames. --- Lars Hansson Hi Lars! Thanks a lot for the reply! Will manpage for identd tell me how to return

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread interval
Siju George writes: Hi Lars! Thanks a lot for the reply! Will manpage for identd tell me how to return random usernames? Or coulld you please give me a link where I can learn that? http://www.clock.org/~fair/opinion/identd.html

Load balancing DHCP (dsl and cable)

2004-09-28 Thread Matt Sellers
Hi guys... I tried to use the example in PF's FAQ for load balacning between two DHCP connections in my apartment. From the results of my efforts i can only assume the second connection just isnt being used at all. I also think im having problems with my default gateway becuase traffic is not

block-policy default?

2004-09-28 Thread Peter Matulis
I have not set my block policy (via set options) but when I do $ sudo pfctl -sr | grep block all the results begin with block drop with the exception where I overrode it with block return for two rules. Yet the man page does not speak of a default block-policy. ~~ Peter

More Ident nonsense

2004-09-28 Thread interval
At the risk of belaboring the point I see nothing in an rfc that mentions ident in relation to mail or any other service. At most was this entry in a man page I found for some nat impl: Some system administrators configure Mail Servers, Telnet Servers and others to send an IDENT request to the

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread interval
Kevin writes: Many IRC servers will drop sessions if they cannot talk to an ident service on the originating end. If you don't want your users to be on IRC; this could be considered as a benefit of blocking TCP/113 ;) Doubtful with IRC servers today. Although I'm not privy to the details of IRC

Re: More Ident nonsense

2004-09-28 Thread Daniel Hartmeier
Kevin explained it nicely in http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-pfm=109639153330355 Daniel

Re: block-policy default?

2004-09-28 Thread Daniel Hartmeier
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 03:09:42PM -0400, Peter Matulis wrote: Yet the man page does not speak of a default block-policy. It mentions that drop is default for block: block The packet is blocked. There are a number of ways in which a block rule can behave when blocking a

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Greg Hennessy
On 28 Sep 2004 10:50:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need it, nothing now depends on it, Not quite correct. Certain smtp, ftp and irc servers come to mind. -- SB: Wait, you mean the costumes themselves give you super powers? MM: Of course! Why else would we fly around in

Re: block-policy default?

2004-09-28 Thread Peter Matulis
--- Daniel Hartmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 03:09:42PM -0400, Peter Matulis wrote: Yet the man page does not speak of a default block-policy. It mentions that drop is default for block: block The packet is blocked. There are a number of ways

Re: Load balancing DHCP (dsl and cable)

2004-09-28 Thread Remy Heiden
Hi Matt, I'm defenately no expert, but I noticed that both int_if = bge0 *and* ext_if2 = bge0 This might() pose a problem. For the rest I can only say that I think your DSL modem also does NAT (IP=192.168.0.1) and that leads me to believe that this is the connection not being used.

Re: More Ident nonsense

2004-09-28 Thread interval
Daniel Hartmeier writes: Kevin explained it nicely in http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-pfm=109639153330355 He has; While the identd service is not *mandatory* on servers which send outbound SMTP email, many remote SMTP servers will query identd when your machine connects as a SMTP

Re: block-policy default?

2004-09-28 Thread Remy Heiden
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:21:55 -0400 (EDT), Peter Matulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Daniel Hartmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 03:09:42PM -0400, Peter Matulis wrote: Yet the man page does not speak of a default block-policy. It mentions that drop is

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Trevor Talbot
On Tuesday, Sep 28, 2004, at 09:47 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin writes: Many IRC servers will drop sessions if they cannot talk to an ident service on the originating end. If you don't want your users to be on IRC; this could be considered as a benefit of blocking TCP/113 ;)

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Daniel Hartmeier
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 04:23:43PM -0700, Trevor Talbot wrote: It is. It's a mitigating mechanism for many types of worms/bots/whatever, since they aren't capable of poking holes in their computer owner's broadband NAT device. That's what UPnP is for, isn't it? SCNR, Daniel

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread eric-list-pf
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 16:23:43 -0700, Trevor Talbot proclaimed... It is. It's a mitigating mechanism for many types of worms/bots/whatever, since they aren't capable of poking holes in their computer owner's broadband NAT device. Yea, sure. I've seen *many* bots with identd running happily

pf stuffing sendmail?

2004-09-28 Thread A
Hey all I don't know if this is a pf question but I think pf might be causing it so here comes the question. I have recently started to notice a stack of the following popping up on the logging server from the border firewall. It runs OBSD 3.5 with a pf ruleset. The log messages (usually

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Trevor Talbot
On Tuesday, Sep 28, 2004, at 16:34 US/Pacific, Daniel Hartmeier wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 04:23:43PM -0700, Trevor Talbot wrote: It is. It's a mitigating mechanism for many types of worms/bots/whatever, since they aren't capable of poking holes in their computer owner's broadband NAT

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Lars Hansson
Siju George wrote: Hi Lars! Thanks a lot for the reply! Will manpage for identd tell me how to return random usernames? Or coulld you please give me a link where I can learn that? man identd, options -h and -H in particular. OpenBSD does this by default in inetd.conf. --- Lars Hansson

Re: How do I change my firewall ports to stealth mode?

2004-09-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
Volker Kindermann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm running emailservers for years now and never ran an identd. And my clients don't have an identd running either. I don't think that you need this for smtp nowadays. It's never been mandatory for SMTP. Some IRC servers do require it, though.

Re: Load balancing DHCP (dsl and cable)

2004-09-28 Thread Tiago Pierezan Camargo
Em Ter, 2004-09-28 às 02:00, Matt Sellers escreveu: B. Can I staticly route any ports/protocols over a certain interface from NAT? Yes, you can. Just add some port/host constraint to your pass in on $int_if rules. Ex.: pass in on $in_if route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) \ proto tcp

Re: Load balancing DHCP (dsl and cable)

2004-09-28 Thread Matt Sellers
Hey guys network diagram as such: The firewall has three interfaces (re0 = cable) (fxp0 = dsl) (bge0 = 10.0.0.0/24). NOTE: Both cable and DSL are DHCP so im kind of confused when some rules require an upstream gateway as an arguement. I can usaully get this by DHCP'ing and seeing what my