Re: System (and DB) upgrade problem., "part 2"

2021-01-17 Thread W.P.
W dniu 13.01.2021 o 12:28, Laurenz Albe pisze: On Wed, 2021-01-13 at 07:41 +0100, W.P. wrote: I am upgrading Fedora 24 to (now) 26, PostgreSQL stopped starting (as expected), the message from systemctl was to do "postgresql-setup --upgrade". Did installed the tool, loaunched. But it fails

Re: Is it possible to compare a long text string and fuzzy match only phrases contained in?

2021-01-17 Thread Benedict Holland
You want to do NLP in postgres? I would say that you would need a tool like opennlp to get your tokens and phases, then run a fuzzy matching algorithm. Unless postgres has nlp capabilities but I am not sure I would use them. You actually want something fairly complex. Thanks, Ben On Sun, Jan

Is it possible to compare a long text string and fuzzy match only phrases contained in?

2021-01-17 Thread Shaozhong SHI
We are looking for working examples of comparing a long text string and fuzzy-matching multiple words (namely, phrases) contained in. Any such work examples? Regards, David

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día domingo, enero 17, 2021 a las 12:23:23p. m. -0700, David G. Johnston escribió: > Its 2021; Yes, and for what this argument is good for? Is 2021 better than 2020 or even worth? > if an image is useful for the topic at hand (say designing a > system and having a diagram showing that

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread David G. Johnston
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 12:05 PM Matthias Apitz wrote: > Mails to a mailing list should be text (or even ASCII) because not all > subscribers can read HTML or images and they're not needed to describe a > problem. > Its 2021; if an image is useful for the topic at hand (say designing a system

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día domingo, enero 17, 2021 a las 11:11:01a. m. -0800, Adrian Klaver escribió: > You can prevent that by going here: > > https://lists.postgresql.org/manage/ > > and checking: > > Don't receive an extra copy of mails when listed in To or CC fields Thanks. I wasn't aware of it and switched

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 1/17/21 11:04 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I disagree in some of the points: El día domingo, enero 17, 2021 a las 10:10:28a. m. -0700, David G. Johnston escribió: Neither images nor non-plain-text means that the content is unreadable, not useful, or problematic. Dealing with these

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, I disagree in some of the points: El día domingo, enero 17, 2021 a las 10:10:28a. m. -0700, David G. Johnston escribió: > Neither images nor non-plain-text means that the content is unreadable, not > useful, or problematic. Dealing with these on an email-by-email basis > through the

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Rob Sargent
> Yes it’s unfortunately highly probable that someone asking (yet again) how to tune postgres will not first search for how to formulate a question. Not to say such info as you, David, and others propose should not be made available as it certainly should but that we may have to accept such

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread David G. Johnston
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 3:30 AM Paul Förster wrote: > > On 17. Jan, 2021, at 11:23, Thiemo Kellner > wrote: > > > > I would not do that. It is the work on the wrong end with doubtful > result. Wouldn't it be better to reject non-plain-text postings? > > coming to think of it: > +1 > > Neither

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Paul Förster
Hi Thiemo, > On 17. Jan, 2021, at 11:23, Thiemo Kellner > wrote: > > I would not do that. It is the work on the wrong end with doubtful result. > Wouldn't it be better to reject non-plain-text postings? coming to think of it: +1 > While at it, is there a rule of thumb for the length of

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Thiemo Kellner
Also, could it be possible to make messages plain text? I see a lot of varying fancy fonts and I hate that. I even hate it more when people post messages not properly trimmed or messages that need formatting preserved such as select output, i.e. table data, explain plans, etc.

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Paul Förster
Hi Tim, > On 17. Jan, 2021, at 10:04, Tim Cross wrote: > > There is nothing stopping you from using a text mail program, like mutt, > on macOS. right. And what I said was not meant to be a complaint. Otherwise I would have complained long ago. It was just a wish. :-) Cheers, Paul

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Paul Förster
Hi Tim, > On 17. Jan, 2021, at 09:43, Tim Cross wrote: > > Highly recommend a mutt and imap combination. Your not locked into any > particular mail folder format, can still access things via mobile > devices and can process messages fast and efficiently. also, there's the good old elm. ;-) >

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Tim Cross
Paul Förster writes: > Hi raf, > >> On 17. Jan, 2021, at 02:59, raf wrote: >> >> I once wrote a program to do that very thing: >> >> http://raf.org/textmail/ >> https://github.com/raforg/textmail/ > > thanks very much for the nice offer but I mostly read my Mails on a Mac, > sometimes

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Tim Cross
Paul Förster writes: > Hi Adrian, > > I'm on a Mac w/ Big Sur (macOS 11.1) and use Apple Mail. I've been on Macs > since 2003. Apple Mail is simple to use and I love it for exactly that. But > Apple Mail has everything I expect a mail client to have, it does not allow a > couple of things

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Paul Förster
Hi raf, > On 17. Jan, 2021, at 02:59, raf wrote: > > I once wrote a program to do that very thing: > > http://raf.org/textmail/ > https://github.com/raforg/textmail/ thanks very much for the nice offer but I mostly read my Mails on a Mac, sometimes Windows, but never Linux. I have no mail

Re: Do we need a way to moderate mailing lists?

2021-01-17 Thread Paul Förster
Hi Adrian, > On 16. Jan, 2021, at 23:46, Adrian Klaver wrote: > > That is trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. yes, but sometimes, just sometimes, things in the olden days were just better. :-) > Too many GUI email interfaces these days that use 'advanced` formatting. I > use