Hi,
sometime ago I heard that there will be a native win32 version of
postgresql 7.4.
Is this true or will there only be a cygwin version like now?
What do you think, how stable and fast is the cygwin version?
Best regards,
Christian
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Marc, I'd be interested in seeing the updated stats for this bought of virus
transmission we're going through.
Yesterday you had almost 1 for 1 valid email. By then I think I was getting
about 3-4 per valid email but since then it's sky rocketed and it looks more
like 30+ per 1 valid message.
Please see the attached file for details.
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TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Op 19 Aug 2003 (15:35), schreef The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Jules Alberts wrote:
Hello everyone,
This is not a troll and I certainly don't want to start a holy war but
wouldn't it be a good idea to move the postgresql lists from the
mailing list approach
Please see the attached file for details.
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TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
So far today:
neptune# awk '{print $7}' /var/log/amavisd | sort | uniq -c
137 BAD
1732 BANNED
4435 INFECTED
6029 Passed,
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Nigel J. Andrews wrote:
Marc, I'd be interested in seeing the updated stats for this bought of virus
transmission we're going through.
Yesterday
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Jules Alberts wrote:
Op 19 Aug 2003 (15:35), schreef The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Jules Alberts wrote:
Hello everyone,
This is not a troll and I certainly don't want to start a holy war but
wouldn't it be a good idea to move the
So far today:
neptune# awk '{print $7}' /var/log/amavisd | sort | uniq -c
137 BAD
1732 BANNED
4435 INFECTED
6029 Passed,
And still some make it through given some of the messages that are
reaching the list today (That movie or My details). :-(
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Francois
Home page:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Francois Suter wrote:
So far today:
neptune# awk '{print $7}' /var/log/amavisd | sort | uniq -c
137 BAD
1732 BANNED
4435 INFECTED
6029 Passed,
And still some make it through given some of the messages that are
reaching the list today (That movie or My
On 20/08/2003 08:18 Nigel J. Andrews wrote:
Marc, I'd be interested in seeing the updated stats for this bought of
virus
transmission we're going through.
Yesterday you had almost 1 for 1 valid email. By then I think I was
getting
about 3-4 per valid email but since then it's sky rocketed and it
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Paul Thomas wrote:
There's a few come thru the list to me and I had a few more yesterday as
part of the daily spam. Like most people from the non-M$ world, this sort
of thing just passes me by :)
I'm looking into how to add a 'taboo subject' filter onto the mj2 lists
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 02:17, Christian Traber wrote:
Hi,
sometime ago I heard that there will be a native win32 version of
postgresql 7.4.
Is this true or will there only be a cygwin version like now?
The native win32 port has been pushed back from 7.4 into (hopefully)
7.5, but cygwin
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 08:11, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Paul Thomas wrote:
There's a few come thru the list to me and I had a few more yesterday as
part of the daily spam. Like most people from the non-M$ world, this sort
of thing just passes me by :)
I'm looking
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 21:51:14 -0400,
Vivek Khera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not promoting any change in the MVCC. What I'm saying is that it
would be really cool if the backend process itself could recognize
that a row is no longer referenced by any transactions upon
termination of
I have trouble: when client-program broke connection to Postgre I see
in logs:
FATAL: This connection has been terminated by the administrator.
LOG: shutting down
and I must start Postgre again. Postgre starting as:
pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgdata -o \-S\ start
I have PostgreSQL 7.3.4
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 18:51, Vasili G. Yanov wrote:
I have trouble: when client-program broke connection to Postgre I see
in logs:
FATAL: This connection has been terminated by the administrator.
LOG: shutting down
and I must start Postgre again. Postgre starting as:
pg_ctl
Please see the attached file for details.
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http://archives.postgresql.org
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 19:01, Vasili G. Yanov wrote:
I have trouble: when client-program broke connection to Postgre I see
in logs:
FATAL: This connection has been terminated by the administrator.
LOG: shutting down
and I must start Postgre again. Postgre starting as:
See the attached file for details
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BW == Bruno Wolff, Bruno writes:
to see it incremental. This would result in pretty much near zero
internal fragmentation, I think.
BW Why do you care about about the details of the implementation (rather than
BW the performance)? If it were faster to do it that way, that's how it would
BW
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 10:31:25 -0400,
Vivek Khera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I care for the performance. And how are you so sure that it was
faster the way it is now? Are you sure it was not done this way
because of ease of implementation?
Seriously, how much slower can it be if the
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 10:31:25AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote:
Seriously, how much slower can it be if the backend were to do the
checking for external references upon updating/deleting a row? The
cost would be distributed across time as opposed to concentrated at
once within a vacuum process.
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Vivek Khera wrote:
BW == Bruno Wolff, Bruno writes:
to see it incremental. This would result in pretty much near zero
internal fragmentation, I think.
BW Why do you care about about the details of the implementation (rather than
BW the performance)? If it were
Vivek Khera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JW == Jan Wieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JW remove all the index entries pointing to these ctid's. Your idea is (so
JW far) lacking a place where to remember all the single removed rows and I
JW assume you're not planning to pay the cost of a full scan
My understanding is that the entire set of localization parameters needs to be
decided upon when the initdb is done and can never be changed later. Is that
right?
I have a multi-lingual web site, I want to be able to sort using collation
rules for en_US, en_CA, and fr_CA depending on the current
Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 13:44:59 -0500,
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The GROUP BY does implicit sorting, so an ORDER BY on the exact same
column(s) as the GROUP BY is redundant.
That is an implementation detail, not a promise. With hashed
Stephan Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
True, but the message being responded to was specifically if the backend
were to do the checking for external references upon updating/deleting a
row.
It's clearly impossible for a backend to remove a row immediately upon
updating/deleting it, since it
Tom Lane wrote:
Recall also that committed deleted does not mean safe to remove.
There may still be live transactions that could see the tuple. The
committed deleted bit just exists to allow subsequent visitors to the
row to skip one of the more expensive steps in deciding whether they can
see
P.J. \Josh\ Rovero [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
7.4b1 is significantly faster (i.e., the higher curve)
over this range of clients and transactions.
Cool. I wonder though why the 7.4 curve is so much noisier.
regards, tom lane
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holy S**T!!
The Hermit Hacker wrote:
16:00 ...
neptune# awk '{print $7}' /var/log/amavisd | sort | uniq -c
285 BAD
1807 BANNED
12289 INFECTED
11731 Passed,
5 SA
1 turned
Here's a normal day:
neptune# cat /var/log/amavisd.o | grep Aug 17 | awk '{print $7}' | sort
| uniq -c
332 BAD
13
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 14:51, Tom Lane wrote:
Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 13:44:59 -0500,
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The GROUP BY does implicit sorting, so an ORDER BY on the exact same
column(s) as the GROUP BY is redundant.
That is an
Jan Wieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Aah - there is the first bullet hole in my multi-ctid-index-idea. Now
the question becomes how expensive these tests are (if a normal backend
can do them at all within reason)?
It's not hugely expensive, IIRC, you just need to make some additional
checks
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:40:03PM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote:
BW == Bruno Wolff, Bruno writes:
BW Also, since at least 7.3, normal vacuums aren't normally going to
BW affect the performance of your database server that much.
I disagree. Triggering a vacuum on a db that is nearly saturating
we haven't changed any of the list configs in months ...
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Ron Johnson wrote:
Hi,
Up until a few days ago, when I did a Reply to List in my MUA
(Evolution 1.4.4), only [EMAIL PROTECTED] would show
up in the To: list. Now, Reply to List acts like like Reply
to All.
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 15:57, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
we haven't changed any of the list configs in months ...
Ok, thanks.
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Ron Johnson wrote:
Hi,
Up until a few days ago, when I did a Reply to List in my MUA
(Evolution 1.4.4), only [EMAIL PROTECTED] would show
I upgraded to 7.3.3 from 7.2 something. I guess the insert statment no longer
accepts a zero lenght string like ''
ERROR: pg_atoi: zero-length string
Is there a way to make this work so it will put Null in the place of it?
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On Tuesday 19 Aug 2003 15:43 in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris M
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I use outlook express to visit news.postgresql.org now.
It works well.
Thank you for top-posting and full-quoting, just to prove my point. ... :-)
--
Regards,
Dave [RLU#314465]
OK. I understand that you prefer a different approach. For my part, I
like to combine different approaches. I understand also that you
consider it impossible to put all the stuff into one database. I think
it is possible after all, but that is not the point here.
My request remains. I am
On Tuesday 19 Aug 2003 09:06 in
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jules Alberts
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
This is not a troll and I certainly don't want to start a holy war but
wouldn't it be a good idea to move the postgresql lists from the
mailing list approach to usenet?
I don't know about anybody else,
Andrew Sullivan wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:40:03PM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote:
BW == Bruno Wolff, Bruno writes:
BW Also, since at least 7.3, normal vacuums aren't normally going to
BW affect the performance of your database server that much.
I disagree. Triggering a vacuum on a db that is
Greg Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My understanding is that the entire set of localization parameters needs to be
decided upon when the initdb is done and can never be changed later. Is that
right?
No, not all of them are frozen. Unfortunately, the one you care about
(LC_COLLATE) is. The
Well, the idea of mailing list is to exchange information and help
each other.
Obviously if few great things happen on some mailing list and others
don't come
to know it, defeats the purpose of having a mailing list.
I agree. This is one of my worries. If nothing happens on the French
list, it
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Dennis Gearon wrote:
holy S**T!!
Particularly the 'Passed' number. Now I'm not subscribed to all of the lists
but I am on -general, -hackers and a couple of others like -interfaces and yet
I would say that the volume of email I'm seeing from the lists is far lower
than
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My understanding is that the entire set of localization parameters needs to be
decided upon when the initdb is done and can never be changed later. Is that
right?
No, not all of them are frozen. Unfortunately, the
Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I disagree. Triggering a vacuum on a db that is nearly saturating the
disk bandwidth has a significant impact.
Vivek is right about this. If your system is already very busy, then
a vacuum on a largish table is painful.
I don't actually think
I think it would be nice, and I may write it eventually, to have a
function called:
COLLATION_VALUE( 'string', 'encoding' )
Which could be used like:
SELECT field_a, field_b
FROM table_a
GROUP BY COLLATION_VALUE( field_a )
ORDER BY COLLATION_VALUE( field_b );
or in other creative ways.
Greg
-Original Message-
From: David W Noon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 4:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] move to usenet?
I agree that many messages are not formatted according to Usenet
conventions, but I normally attribute that to
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Nigel J. Andrews wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Dennis Gearon wrote:
holy S**T!!
Particularly the 'Passed' number. Now I'm not subscribed to all of the lists
but I am on -general, -hackers and a couple of others like -interfaces and yet
I would say that the volume of
I prefer NOT to have to scroll down to the bottom of an email anyway. I
think discussion list emails like ours need to be like your medical
records, the most important, recent stuff is at the top.
I'm not exactly sure what full quoting is.
David Olbersen wrote:
-Original Message-
it seems to me what would be more useful is an even
lazier vacuum: something that could be told clean up as cycles are
available, but make sure you stay out of the way. Of course, that's
easy to say glibly, and mighty hard to do, I expect.
You mean, like, nice 19 or so ?
Karsten
--
GPG key
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:44:28 -0700 David Olbersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the point of bottom posting anymore? I thought it had to do with
turn-around time so that you could re-read whatever it is you wrote a
long time ago. I highly doubt you would know, but is there an easy way
to
What about the use of priority inheritance to deal with the issue of
priority inversion (a standard methodology within the real-time world)?
Then we could have priorities, but still have low priority processes
bumped up if a high level one is waiting on them.
Regards,
Ed
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