[GENERAL] what about uniqueness of inherited primary keys

2003-12-28 Thread Andreas
Hello list, what about uniqueness of inherited primary keys ? eg you have : create table objects ( id int4, date_created timestamp(0), primary key (id) ); create table persons ( firstname varchar(100), lastname varchar(100) ) inherits (objects); now ... insert into objects (id) values

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Tony
Alas, it's one of the biggest shortcomings of email. My apologies for grasping the wrong end of the stick. All of your points are valid, but there is always room for a larger user community, especially in one that is almost entirely voluntary. It's OK to be aloof and niche, Debian has done

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Tony
I was thinking more along the lines of a company that said "Hey, we've got a core app on MySQL which is running like a bag of bolts, can you come and troubleshoot it for us."  A company quite rightly would get a little edgy with someone saying sorry guys, it's new DB time.  You'd want to go and

Re: [GENERAL] Variables in PostgreSQL? [was: Is my MySQL Gaining?]

2003-12-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 12:57:10PM -0500, Casey Allen Shobe wrote: > Martijn van Oosterhout (Sunday 28 December 2003 04:56) > > Interesting, I found them in psql's manpage under ADVANCED FEATURES - > > VARIABLES. Let's see if I can find it on the web... Here's a web version of > > the manpage. > >

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Keith C. Perry
Quoting Gaetano Mendola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Chris Travers wrote: > > Regarding the importance of PostgreSQL on Windows. > > > > For example, I am developing a hotel reservation management application > > using Python and PostgreSQL (http://sourceforge.net/projects/openres). > This > > will on

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Keith C. Perry
Quoting Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sadly a company will believe anything that a consultant they trust tells > them. Otherwise there'd be little point in hiring a consultant to give > them advice would there? There are different levels of trust and in addition sometimes consultants are used fo

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Keith C. Perry
Quoting Shridhar Daithankar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sunday 28 December 2003 11:15, D. Dante Lorenso wrote: > > The only SQL customizations that MySQL has that I really miss in > PostgreSQL > > are the commands: > > > > SHOW DATABASES; > > \l > > > SHOW TABLES; > > \dt > > > DESC

Re: PGSQL 7.4 tips, was Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Casey Allen Shobe
Chris Travers (Sunday 28 December 2003 01:24) > With 7.4, PostgreSQL implements the standard information_schema so that one > can essentially get all this information in a standard way with will > presumably not be brokent too much in future versions. Prior to this > release, you have to dig the i

[GENERAL] Variables in PostgreSQL? [was: Is my MySQL Gaining?]

2003-12-28 Thread Casey Allen Shobe
Martijn van Oosterhout (Sunday 28 December 2003 04:56) > Interesting, I found them in psql's manpage under ADVANCED FEATURES - > VARIABLES. Let's see if I can find it on the web... Here's a web version of > the manpage. Ahh, I have seen those...but they're specific to psql, and if memory serves me

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Keith C. Perry
I've asked this before and I'll apologize now if there was a response but how does http://gborg.postgresql.org NOT fill this. Quoting Chris Travers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all; > > The problem with trying to maintain an image of unity is that PostgreSQL is > moving in a direction of being sort

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Casey Allen Shobe
Tony (Sunday 28 December 2003 10:30) > The native windows port is certainly useful for me when I was > developing for MySQL applications, I always ran a copy on my Windows > laptop which started as a service, and was most useful. I used to Rapid > Devel and prototype all of my DB apps this way

Re: [GENERAL] Max length of SQL statement

2003-12-28 Thread Tom Lane
"Carmen Wai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do any one know the max length of a SQL statement? There is no specific limit; it'll depend on available memory and complexity of the statement. I've run tests with multi-megabyte string literals, tens of thousands of WHERE clauses, etc. MySQL's "crashm

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Paul Thomas
On 28/12/2003 14:44 Tony wrote: [snip] This really rattled some peoples cages and I ended up defending PG against some really ill thought out attacks. Like: MySQL User: But can PG deal with really complicated joins. Me: In many cases the extra functionality of PG avoids the problems where real

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Tony
Sadly a company will believe anything that a consultant they trust tells them.  Otherwise there'd be little point in hiring a consultant to give them advice would there? It seems rather illogical that you'd refuse to work with a company that had been given potentially sub-standard advice, bas

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Tony
The native windows port is certainly useful for me when I was developing for MySQL applications, I always ran a copy on my Windows laptop which started as a service, and was most useful.  I used to Rapid Devel and prototype all of my DB apps this way. Whilst I can (and do) run PG on my la

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Tony
The confusing license terms and conditions was one of the main reasons I appeared on this list some weeks ago, when I was considering a commercial venture using a JDBC client application, and couldn't untangle who needed licenses, how many and what for exactly.  After a breif foray on #postgres

Re: [GENERAL] Photos of PostgreSQL booth

2003-12-28 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Christian Kienle writes: > Here are two pictures of the PostgreSQL booth on the Linux World Expo & > Conference in Frankfurt 2003. There are more photos here: http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/past-events/lwe2003-pictures/ ---(end of broadcast)---

[GENERAL] Change onership of database and all tables?

2003-12-28 Thread Russ Schneider
In 7.2, how would you change ownership of a database and all its tables and sequences? Right now everything is owned by postgres and I want to change ownership to a regualar user. -- [ Russ Schneider (a.k.a. Sugapablo) ] [ http://www.sugapablo.com <--music ] [ http://www.sugapablo.n

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Paul Thomas
On 28/12/2003 01:57 Chris Travers wrote: Regarding the importance of PostgreSQL on Windows. For example, I am developing a hotel reservation management application using Python and PostgreSQL (http://sourceforge.net/projects/openres). This will only run on Linux and UNIX, so in order to get this t

[GENERAL] Max length of SQL statement

2003-12-28 Thread Carmen Wai
Hello: Do any one know the max length of a SQL statement? Thanks! Carmen _ No masks required! Use MSN Messenger to chat with friends and family. http://go.msnserver.com/HK/25382.asp ---(end of broadcast)

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Paul Thomas
On 28/12/2003 08:47 John Sidney-Woollett wrote: I have found pgAdmin III to be an absolute godsend - this product is brilliant. With it, I can see all databases, schemas, objects, and grants quickly and clearly. This one tool turned postgres into an absolute joy to use (in much the same way that TO

PGSQL 7.4 tips, was Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Chris Travers
Hi Dante; From: "D. Dante Lorenso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I started with MySQL and it WAS easier to use. It was easier because > the manual essentially reads: > >-- we didn't implement anything complicated that's why >-- we are fast. > > The only SQL customizations that MySQL has that I re

Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?

2003-12-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 04:29:56AM -0500, Casey Allen Shobe wrote: > Martijn van Oosterhout (Sunday 28 December 2003 02:57) > > Yes, they do vary, there is no stardard. As you point out, DB2 and MySQL > > use different commands, as does probably every other database. There is no > > command that is