Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-30 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 11/30/06, John McCawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can't speak for wxPython etc., but regarding using QT from C++, your speed of development depends on your C++ skills. I wrote a full-featured Point of Sale system in Visual Basic that has been in active use for about 4 years. The original

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-30 Thread John McCawley
I can't speak for wxPython etc., but regarding using QT from C++, your speed of development depends on your C++ skills. I wrote a full-featured Point of Sale system in Visual Basic that has been in active use for about 4 years. The original development effort (screens, grids, etc.) took about

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
> The big problem with all the solutions mentioned (besides Delphi, > SharpDevelop etc) is that they > take a LOT of time to develop complex GUI applications with. > > I looked at Python etc, but it would have taken me 10 times (or more) > longer to create Lightning Admin > using something othe

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-30 Thread Tony Caduto
Ritesh Nadhani wrote: Hello All Sorry for the late reply. Been a little busy with my assignments. I will try to answer all the queries in this mail. The reason I don't want to develop the project in wxWindows or a C/C++ based toolkit is that in the end I would be able to compile a binary Anot

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-30 Thread Tony Caduto
Ritesh Nadhani wrote: Also, IDEs like Delphi etc. are out of question as I cant afford to buy the licenses. You can get Turbo Delphi Explorer for free and the license allows commercial development. It really is sweet. Check it out here: http://www.turboexplorer.com/ The explorer version com

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-29 Thread Ritesh Nadhani
pgAdmin III is only for PgSQL. I plan on a multidb one. Thats my idea from the beginning. Atleast, support Mysql and PgSQL and and then support other DB as time progresses. On 11/29/06, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 13:00 -0600, Tony Caduto wrote: > Ritesh Nadh

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-29 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 13:00 -0600, Tony Caduto wrote: > Ritesh Nadhani wrote: > > Thanks to all for their suggestions and ideas. I believe that there is > > indeed a scope for such a tool. > > > > My semester ends on 15th December and I get a one month break between > > next semester. I will write

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-29 Thread Tony Caduto
Ritesh Nadhani wrote: Thanks to all for their suggestions and ideas. I believe that there is indeed a scope for such a tool. My semester ends on 15th December and I get a one month break between next semester. I will write a simple app in wxWidgets (that is what I am comfortable with right now)

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-29 Thread Ritesh Nadhani
Thanks to all for their suggestions and ideas. I believe that there is indeed a scope for such a tool. My semester ends on 15th December and I get a one month break between next semester. I will write a simple app in wxWidgets (that is what I am comfortable with right now) to show what I am tryin

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-29 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 08:42 -0800, Richard Troy wrote: > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Ritesh Nadhani wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > I have been working with wxWidgets and I didnt face a problem. What > > specific thing were broken in wxWidgets for Windows? > > > > Ritesh > > PLEASE take this offline - it's

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-29 Thread John McCawley
Well, to be fair, I was using fairly low-level functionality. If you look at the screenshot from my app, I am just using the raw window class and handling all of the dragging etc. manually. In addition, my foreign key drawing is handled by directly painting on the background, and my own click

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-29 Thread Richard Troy
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Ritesh Nadhani wrote: > > Hello > > I have been working with wxWidgets and I didnt face a problem. What > specific thing were broken in wxWidgets for Windows? > > Ritesh PLEASE take this offline - it's not even close to Postgres related. Richard -- Richard Troy, Chief Scie

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-29 Thread Ritesh Nadhani
Hello I have been working with wxWidgets and I didnt face a problem. What specific thing were broken in wxWidgets for Windows? Ritesh On 11/29/06, John McCawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been struggling with this problem for a few years. I have written a basic relational database desi

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-29 Thread John McCawley
I have been struggling with this problem for a few years. I have written a basic relational database design tool: http://www.hardgeus.com/pgdesigner/ I have completely rewritten this program 3 times. I initially implemented it in Fltk, but ran into a bunch of limitations in the API. I rewr

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-28 Thread Ritesh Nadhani
Hey Sorry for the critical mistake. Pressed the SEND button too early. In the first para I meant: The reason I *want* to develop the project in wxWindows or a C/C++ based toolkit is that in the end I would be able to compile a binary which will have least dependency and can be bundled for downlo

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-28 Thread Ritesh Nadhani
Hello All Sorry for the late reply. Been a little busy with my assignments. I will try to answer all the queries in this mail. The reason I don't want to develop the project in wxWindows or a C/C++ based toolkit is that in the end I would be able to compile a binary which will have least depend

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-28 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Merlin Moncure wrote: For a general purpose language, lately I've been taking a really good look at 'D', which looks to be an amazing language. Has anybody tried to hook up postgresql to D? No, I haven't. But, if you want a cross-platform language and GUI toolkit, consi

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-28 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 11/28/06, Olexandr Melnyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2006/11/28, Tony Caduto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Mono 1.2 only fully supports .net 1.1 (for winforms) Yes. But it already supports most of the .NET 2.0 features (not talking of WinForms here) including the ones metioned above and has a C# 2.0

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-28 Thread Olexandr Melnyk
2006/11/28, Tony Caduto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Mono 1.2 only fully supports .net 1.1 (for winforms) Yes. But it already supports most of the .NET 2.0 features (not talking of WinForms here) including the ones metioned above and has a C# 2.0 compiler. What kind of problems have you seen with the

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-28 Thread Tony Caduto
Olexandr Melnyk wrote: Mono/.NET is definately worth the consideration. However, I'd advice you not to go with Turbo C#, as it only supports .NET 1.*, so you won't be able to use such goodies as: generics and nullable types, which are quite handy, especially for the database-oriented applica

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-28 Thread Tony Caduto
Thomas Kellerer wrote: On 27.11.2006 17:36 Tony Caduto wrote: The closest to Delphi in a cross platform system is NetBeans and even with their form designer it's still tedious working with databases compared to Delphi. What about Lazarus? It claims to be cross-platform, but I don't know how

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-28 Thread Olexandr Melnyk
2006/11/27, Tony Caduto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: One could also use Mono 1.2 and any .net 1.1 IDE such as Borland Turbo C# or Delphi.net (with npgsql .net data provider) both of which you can get for free here: http://www.turboexplorer.com or SharpDevelop which you can get here: http://www.icsharpcod

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-27 Thread Thomas Kellerer
On 27.11.2006 17:36 Tony Caduto wrote: The closest to Delphi in a cross platform system is NetBeans and even with their form designer it's still tedious working with databases compared to Delphi. What about Lazarus? It claims to be cross-platform, but I don't know how it compares with regards

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-27 Thread Tony Caduto
Merlin Moncure wrote: I think you should look for inspiration in the EMS suite, which while windows-only and closed source is a pretty feature packed and cross (db) platform. You are on very well traveled ground here. Not to mention Lightning Admin for Postgresql and MySQL:-) (http://ww

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-27 Thread Ritesh Nadhani
Hello Herald Somebody mailed me earlier also regarding dabodev but its not what I am talking about. I took a look at dabo and it definitely serves one part of application that I have in mind but more specifically I was thinking of starting with a admin/developer tool like TOAD, MS Query Analyzer

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-27 Thread Harald Armin Massa
Ritesh, what you are trying to do sound very similiar to dabo: http://dabodev.com/ Maybe have a look at it first? best wishes Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstraße 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - Python: the only language with more web

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-27 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 11/25/06, Ritesh Nadhani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello all Let me introduce myself first. I am the ex-lead developer of SQLyog (one of the most popular GUI for MySQL which is Windows only and runs on Linux through WINE, more info at http://www.webyog.com). === New Project: wxWidgets ba

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-26 Thread Guy Rouillier
Richard Troy wrote: > Let me put it this way; Right now I have to support (at least) five > RDBMSes: Postgres, Informix, Sybase, DB2, Oracle - and we're > considering ANTS. The idea of a cross-dbms admin tool sounds great > but is USELESS - not worth my time - if it doesn't address these > every-da

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-26 Thread Richard Troy
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Ritesh Nadhani wrote: > > Well, sorry if my words were confusing. I was thinking of an MS SQL > Query Analyzer, SQLyog, PGAdmin kind of tool to start with which will > provide a basic admin tool initially. And based upon that > layer/architecture we will provide more advanced

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-26 Thread Ritesh Nadhani
Hello On 11/26/06, Thomas Kellerer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, >> I am maintaining such an application and it is neither bulky nor slow. >> It's all >> a matter of implementation. >> > Can I have a link to the application or more info on that? I would be > interested to take a look into it.

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-26 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Hi, I am maintaining such an application and it is neither bulky nor slow. It's all a matter of implementation. Can I have a link to the application or more info on that? I would be interested to take a look into it. Sure: http://www.sql-workbench.net I have nothing against JDBC or JAVA (

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-25 Thread Ritesh Nadhani
Thanks for the info. I will take a look at it soon. On 11/25/06, John DeSoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > New Project: wxWidgets based cross-platform GUI for Open Source > databases You might also want to investigate XUL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ XUL). In addition to having low level C/C++

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-25 Thread Ritesh Nadhani
Hello On 11/25/06, Richard Troy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Ritesh, I'm in support of Tomi's comments (especially those about consulting), and have a few more thoughts to add. To wit: First, as an aside, as I didn't know anything about SQLyog, I read your post first, then went to the URL ci

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-25 Thread Ritesh Nadhani
Hello On 11/25/06, Thomas Kellerer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Of the few multiple-db GUIs, 99% (or probably 100%) use JDBC/ODBC > layer to connect and work with the databases and JAVA or some other kind > of high level toolkit/language to develop the GUI. This results in > applications being

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-25 Thread John DeSoi
New Project: wxWidgets based cross-platform GUI for Open Source databases You might also want to investigate XUL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ XUL). In addition to having low level C/C++, you can provide the ability to create interfaces with XML and JavaScript. Applications can run stand

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-25 Thread Richard Troy
Hi Ritesh, I'm in support of Tomi's comments (especially those about consulting), and have a few more thoughts to add. To wit: First, as an aside, as I didn't know anything about SQLyog, I read your post first, then went to the URL cited. Throughout your post, it wasn't clear what the subject wa

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-25 Thread Tomi NA
2006/11/25, Ritesh Nadhani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hello all Let me introduce myself first. I am the ex-lead developer of SQLyog (one of the most popular GUI for MySQL which is Windows only and runs on Linux through WINE, more info at http://www.webyog.com). === New Project: wxWidgets based cro

Re: [GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-25 Thread Thomas Kellerer
- Of the few multiple-db GUIs, 99% (or probably 100%) use JDBC/ODBC layer to connect and work with the databases and JAVA or some other kind of high level toolkit/language to develop the GUI. This results in applications being bulky and slow and never able to provide the speed that a low level C/C

[GENERAL] Development of cross-platform GUI for Open Source DBs

2006-11-25 Thread Ritesh Nadhani
Hello all Let me introduce myself first. I am the ex-lead developer of SQLyog (one of the most popular GUI for MySQL which is Windows only and runs on Linux through WINE, more info at http://www.webyog.com). === New Project: wxWidgets based cross-platform GUI for Open Source databases === ===