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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Is there a shortage of postgresql skilled ops people
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On 04/09/07 10:50, Erik Jones wrote:
On Apr 9, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Vivek Khera wrote:
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One thing that was really counte
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On 04/09/07 10:50, Erik Jones wrote:
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> On Apr 9, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Vivek Khera wrote:
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>> One thing that was really counter-intuitive to me from a guy who runs
>> really large databases, was to get rid of some of the FK's and manage
>> them in
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On 04/09/07 14:05, Bill Moran wrote:
> In response to Alexander Staubo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>> On Apr 9, 2007, at 18:10 , Gerard Seibert wrote:
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>>> On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:34:22 -0500
>>> Erik Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
Hmmm... I di
On Monday 09 April 2007 11:50, Erik Jones wrote:
> On Apr 9, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Vivek Khera wrote:
> > On Apr 9, 2007, at 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> It would be a really great service to this community if you would
> >> capture those issues and publish documentation (but feel free to
>
In response to Alexander Staubo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Apr 9, 2007, at 18:10 , Gerard Seibert wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:34:22 -0500
> > Erik Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hmmm... I didn't have anything HTML set anywhere. I did however
> >> have message formatting set to
On Apr 9, 2007, at 18:10 , Gerard Seibert wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:34:22 -0500
Erik Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hmmm... I didn't have anything HTML set anywhere. I did however
have message formatting set to Rich-Text (although I was unaware)
and have switched that to plaintext. Thi
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:34:22 -0500
Erik Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmm... I didn't have anything HTML set anywhere. I did however
> have message formatting set to Rich-Text (although I was unaware)
> and have switched that to plaintext. This look better?
Yes, much better. I believe t
On Apr 9, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Vivek Khera wrote:
On Apr 9, 2007, at 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be a really great service to this community if you would
capture those issues and publish documentation (but feel free to
change or omit the names to protect the incompetent^w inn
On Apr 9, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Gerard wrote:
On Monday April 09, 2007 at 10:19:53 (AM) Erik Jones wrote:
On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Vivek Khera wrote:
On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Tony Caduto wrote:
Another thing is this, how hard could it possibly be for a MS SQL
DBA or Oracle DBA to pic
On Apr 9, 2007, at 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be a really great service to this community if you would
capture those issues and publish documentation (but feel free to
change or omit the names to protect the incompetent^w innocent!).
There's no incompetence involved... the
On Monday April 09, 2007 at 10:19:53 (AM) Erik Jones wrote:
> On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Vivek Khera wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Tony Caduto wrote:
> >
> >> Another thing is this, how hard could it possibly be for a MS SQL
> >> DBA or Oracle DBA to pick up using PostgreSQL?
On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Vivek Khera wrote:
On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Tony Caduto wrote:
Another thing is this, how hard could it possibly be for a MS SQL
DBA or Oracle DBA to pick up using PostgreSQL?
I don't think it would take a decent admin of any database to come
up to speed in
Vivek Khera wrote:
On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Tony Caduto wrote:
Another thing is this, how hard could it possibly be for a MS SQL DBA
or Oracle DBA to pick up using PostgreSQL?
I don't think it would take a decent admin of any database to come up
to speed in a very short time as long as th
On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Tony Caduto wrote:
Another thing is this, how hard could it possibly be for a MS SQL
DBA or Oracle DBA to pick up using PostgreSQL?
I don't think it would take a decent admin of any database to come
up to speed in a very short time as long as they were interested
On Mar 27, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Jorge Godoy wrote:
"Merlin Moncure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
On 3/27/07, Erik Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not having looked myself, this is as much a question as a
suggestion, but
are there not postgres dba training seminars/courses you could
recommend
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Caduto) writes:
> Another thing is this, how hard could it possibly be for a MS SQL DBA
> or Oracle DBA to pick up using PostgreSQL?
> I don't think it would take a decent admin of any database to come up
> to speed in a very short time as long as they were interested in doi
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 15:58, Jorge Godoy wrote:
> I have the same opinion. Just look around and see how many "certified
> something" are there and how many of them *really* know the product, its
> details, how to work with it.
>
> Certifications don't even certify the minimum knowledge. They ar
"Merlin Moncure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 3/27/07, Erik Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Not having looked myself, this is as much a question as a suggestion, but
>> are there not postgres dba training seminars/courses you could recommend
>> they send their dba's to?
>
> There are some
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 15:09, Tony Caduto wrote:
> >> The sad reality from what I have observed is that unless more people gain
> >> those skills and want to work in ops, it's becoming very hard for me to
> >> justify recommending postgresql for enterprise (or larger) scale projects.
> >>
> >> Wha
The sad reality from what I have observed is that unless more people gain
those skills and want to work in ops, it's becoming very hard for me to
justify recommending postgresql for enterprise (or larger) scale projects.
What do others do and/or experience?
I think there are peopl
On 3/27/07, Erik Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not having looked myself, this is as much a question as a suggestion, but
are there not postgres dba training seminars/courses you could recommend
they send their dba's to?
There are some classes out there but in my opinion your best bet (from
p
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> >>> Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> Probably, it's time to sponsor our book-writers and other enthusiasts
> to write "PostgreSQL Administration handbook", which we (communi
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 08:54, Marc Evans wrote:
> Hello -
>
> Over the past couple of years I have made use of postgresql as my database
> of choice when developing new software. During that time, my clients have
> in multiple cases eventually come back to me and requested a re-targeting
> to "A
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
Probably, it's time to sponsor our book-writers and other enthusiasts
to write "PostgreSQL Administration handbook", which we (community)
will accept, support and translate to differe
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
Probably, it's time to sponsor our book-writers and other enthusiasts
to write "PostgreSQL Administration handbook", which we (community)
will accept, support and translate to different languages.
http://www.postgresql.org/docs
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> >> Probably, it's time to sponsor our book-writers and other enthusiasts
> >> to write "PostgreSQL Administration handbook", which we (community)
> >> will accept, support and translate to different languages.
> >
> > http
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
Probably, it's time to sponsor our book-writers and other enthusiasts
to write "PostgreSQL Administration handbook", which we (community)
will accept, support and translate to different languages.
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/admin.
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> Probably, it's time to sponsor our book-writers and other enthusiasts
> to write "PostgreSQL Administration handbook", which we (community)
> will accept, support and translate to different languages.
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/admin.html
--
Peter Eisent
On 3/27/07, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
Marc,
I forwarded your message to pgsql-advocacy list.
The same situation in Russia ! I think, that the major problem here is
lack of "official" training courses on PostgreSQL and certificates.
"Official" mean something that was accepted by the PostgreSQL commun
Marc,
I forwarded your message to pgsql-advocacy list.
The same situation in Russia ! I think, that the major problem here is
lack of "official" training courses on PostgreSQL and certificates.
"Official" mean something that was accepted by the PostgreSQL community.
This is a real pity, since w
On Mar 27, 2007, at 9:37 AM, Merlin Moncure wrote:
On 3/27/07, Marc Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello -
Over the past couple of years I have made use of postgresql as my
database
of choice when developing new software. During that time, my
clients have
in multiple cases eventually co
On 3/27/07, Marc Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello -
Over the past couple of years I have made use of postgresql as my database
of choice when developing new software. During that time, my clients have
in multiple cases eventually come back to me and requested a re-targeting
to "Any databas
Hello -
Over the past couple of years I have made use of postgresql as my database
of choice when developing new software. During that time, my clients have
in multiple cases eventually come back to me and requested a re-targeting
to "Any database that we (my client) can find skilled ops staff
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