Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-04 Thread William Yu
My guess is that you will get better performance from a similarly priced Dual Opteron for the following reasons: 1) OS-X is not 64-bit yet, 64-bit Linux/BSD OS's are available 2) GCC is far better tuned for x86 than PowerPC/Itanium/etc 3) Postgres *seems* to prefer Opteron's ondie memory

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-04 Thread Timothy Perrigo
I've been working with PostgreSQL on OS X (G4, G5 and dual G5 systems) for a few months now, and overall I've been really pleased; for us, it seems to be a good match. If you have both an OS X and a Linux or BSD system available, you could run pgbench against both and get a rough idea on how

[GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-03 Thread Jim Strickland
We currently are running a data intensive web service on a Mac using 4D. The developers of our site are looking at converting this web service to PostgreSQL. We will have a backup of our three production servers at our location. The developers are recommending that I purchase a 2GHz Dual

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-03 Thread Jeff Bohmer
We use PostgreSQL 7.x on both OS X and Linux. We used to run OS X in production, but due to numerous problems we switched to Linux. OS X was not stable at all, especially under load. It was also a poor performer under load or not. In my tests, a P3/800, 512MB RAM (100MHz bus) was

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-03 Thread Jim Strickland
I noticed you ran PostgreSQL on a G4. What version of OS X were you running? Is it possible the issues you were facing were fixed with the newer G5 processor? Jeff Bohmer wrote: We use PostgreSQL 7.x on both OS X and Linux. We used to run OS X in production, but due to numerous problems we

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-03 Thread Jeff Bohmer
I noticed you ran PostgreSQL on a G4. What version of OS X were you running? Is it possible the issues you were facing were fixed with the newer G5 processor? We were using OS X 10.2 in production. We currently use 10.3 for our development machines. I would be shocked if a processor could fix

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-03 Thread Jim Strickland
Well, the whole reason I have asked this question is because my developer swears by OS X and PostgreSQL. However, I wanted opinions from other people who have possibly used a similar setup so I can make an informed decision. I will certainly keep your advice in mind. I guess the only reason I

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-03 Thread Kevin Murphy
On Nov 3, 2004, at 1:33 PM, Jeff Bohmer wrote: We use PostgreSQL 7.x on both OS X and Linux. We used to run OS X in production, but due to numerous problems we switched to Linux. OS X was not stable at all, especially under load. It was also a poor performer under load or not. Did you (or

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-03 Thread Kevin Barnard
OS 10.3 IMHO is more stable then 10.2. I haven't us OS X in a production environment only for development. I have yet to have any problems with it crashing. I haven't really run any tests to load it down but that's only because I never expect to use in production. We have far too many IBM

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-03 Thread Jim Crate
on 11/3/04, Jeff Bohmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use PostgreSQL 7.x on both OS X and Linux. We used to run OS X in production, but due to numerous problems we switched to Linux. OS X was not stable at all, especially under load. It was also a poor performer under load or not. In my

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-03 Thread Jeff Bohmer
In my experience, a G4/1.25GHz computer with standard apple drive was much faster than the PC (Pentium 2+GHz, don't remember details) we tested running Linux. Both machines had plenty of RAM, same PostgreSQL settings, etc. The PC was much slower than the mac running backup/restore (more than 2x

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Linux PC vs MacOS X

2004-11-03 Thread Philippe Schmid
In my experience, a G4/1.25GHz computer with standard apple drive was much faster than the PC (Pentium 2+GHz, don't remember details) we tested running Linux. Both machines had plenty of RAM, same PostgreSQL settings, etc. The PC was much slower than the mac running backup/restore (more than