Re: erServer (was: Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL)

2004-01-20 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 09:16:45AM +0200, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: > In fact we would announce it next week, but I and Nicolai Tufar patched > eRServer current CVS version last week, since it fails to configure > and compile on most systems. Bug reports are welcome. I look forward to the patches.

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-19 Thread Steve Atkins
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 12:37:55PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >I used to have that complaint until I got more aquainted with the docs. > >When I used to use mysql I found that if I used search feature on their > >docs > >I could find exactly what I was looking for almost immediately. When I

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-19 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 11:40:04AM -0800, Chris Ochs wrote: > I am playing around with Erserver, but the download has to be updated from > cvs or it won't even compile (corrupted file in the distribution). It Fixing this has been on my TODO list for several weeks now, but it keeps failing to mak

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-18 Thread ezra epstein
""Bob Powell"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To whom it may concern: > > I find the recent articles in various trade publications a little > disturbing due to the lack of PostgrSQL mention. I continue to see > articles about how IBM may be considering MYSQL for dev

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-18 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Joshua D. Drake") writes: >>BTW, I've asked this before but where are the 7.4 docs in PS or PDF format? If >> > > They are being worked on ;) > >>any one needs or wants them, I do have the 7.3.2-US books (admin, user, >>programmer & reference) in PS with the duplexing code. Th

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-15 Thread lnd
I am currently evaluating all open source databases and possibly my fresh opinion will be of interest. I went over documentation and setup of Firebird, MySQL and PostgreSql and here is "perception"(to get better understanding one has to run thing for quite a while): As for "user friendly" image:

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-15 Thread Keith C. Perry
Quoting "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >You're kidding me... > > > > > > > No I am not... You missed the point, there is no official Linux website. > Linux.org is ran by one guy, > linux.com is run by VA (I actually used to have [EMAIL PROTECTED]), I own > Linuxdoc.org and Linuxdo

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
You're kidding me... No I am not... You missed the point, there is no official Linux website. Linux.org is ran by one guy, linux.com is run by VA (I actually used to have [EMAIL PROTECTED]), I own Linuxdoc.org and Linuxdoc.com... The closest you get to a "linux" website is kernel.org. Sincer

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-15 Thread Chris Travers
From: "Keith C. Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 3) Not being able to "find" something in via search BEFORE even reading the >documentation is somewhat backwards. You have to at least get a feel for >the docs before even know what to look for. That is not to say that the >search engine i

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Rick Gigger
> >Does anyone have any experience with postgers full text search? > > > It works well but it is my understanding that our docs search doesn't > use PostgreSQL > and TSearch. It uses PostgreSQL monogo search or something like that. That's good to hear. What is monogo and is it the problem here?

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Davies
Quoting Martin Marques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Oh, please! I have never seen such a better community then this one (well, > some > exceptions come to mind right now, but it's still within the best). > > I have personally found GREAT replys from the developers (Tom Lane comes to > mind, saving me lo

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Does anyone have any experience with postgers full text search? It works well but it is my understanding that our docs search doesn't use PostgreSQL and TSearch. It uses PostgreSQL monogo search or something like that. J Perhaps someone could get two birds with one stone and make a good f

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Martin Marques
Mensaje citado por "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >I used to have that complaint until I got more aquainted with the docs. > >When I used to use mysql I found that if I used search feature on their > docs > >I could find exactly what I was looking for almost immediately. When I use >

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Rick Gigger
> >I used to have that complaint until I got more aquainted with the docs. > >When I used to use mysql I found that if I used search feature on their docs > >I could find exactly what I was looking for almost immediately. When I use > >the postgres doc search feature I don't get the same experienc

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Martin Marques
Mensaje citado por Matt Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quoting "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > MySQL has what 19 million in the bank? > > I only point out what the userbase is feeling. I have never been attacked as > an > idiot when using MySQL - I have always had helpful resp

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Joshua D. Drake
I used to have that complaint until I got more aquainted with the docs. When I used to use mysql I found that if I used search feature on their docs I could find exactly what I was looking for almost immediately. When I use the postgres doc search feature I don't get the same experience. It is

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Terry Lee Tucker wrote: We are in the process of porting a logistics application to Postgres from a Progress Software database. We have about 75 employees and will be putting Postgres to work in a real time business situation where there are lots of transactions. Once we are successful in this

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Rick Gigger
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > Not to mention that PostgreSQL.Org has some of the most complete > > documentation > > of any software out there. > > Yes, I don't understand why people seem to keep complaining about > Postgres' documentation - it is by far the best reference doc

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Joshua D. Drake
What I meant was integrated replication. When adding more layers to the database there is yet one more possible mechanism for failure at some point. I don't know about you, but Murphy always bites me in the butt. In addition, I found your product VERY interesting, but it kinda puts me off that it

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Terry Lee Tucker
We are in the process of porting a logistics application to Postgres from a Progress Software database. We have about 75 employees and will be putting Postgres to work in a real time business situation where there are lots of transactions. Once we are successful in this endeavor, how can we get

Documentation search (Was: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL)

2004-01-14 Thread Martin Marques
Mensaje citado por Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > Not to mention that PostgreSQL.Org has some of the most complete > > documentation > > of any software out there. > > Yes, I don't understand why people seem to keep complaining about > Postgres' do

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Chris Ochs
I'm still not sure if the erserver I downloaded is the only version, or if there is a commercial version? Chris - Original Message - From: "Matt Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [GEN

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Davies
Quoting Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yes, I don't understand why people seem to keep complaining about > Postgres' documentation - it is by far the best reference documentation > I've ever come across. > > Maybe it's that there isn't much tutorial content in the documentation - > for somebody try

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Davies
Quoting "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Replication exists in multiple manners for PostgreSQL. There is Mammoth > replicator (our product), > ErServer (pgsql.com's product), dbmirror, Rserv, and pgCluster. What I meant was integrated replication. When adding more layers to the data

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Dustin Sallings
On Jan 14, 2004, at 10:18, Matt Davies wrote: 1. Replication: Like it or not most people regard their data and access to their data as 'invaluable'. If not, why are they storing it. Having a secondary I'm not the only person who has used this same argument against mySQL installs. There is a h

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Ben
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Not to mention that PostgreSQL.Org has some of the most complete > documentation > of any software out there. Yes, I don't understand why people seem to keep complaining about Postgres' documentation - it is by far the best reference documentation

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Joshua D. Drake
1. Replication: Like it or not most people regard their data and access to their data as 'invaluable'. If not, why are they storing it. Having a secondary server (read slaves) on which you can perform backups, load balance RO traffic, and eventually use as a failover has been one of the great sell

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Matt Davies wrote: > 2. Documentation: In delving deeper into the Postgress database I > have tried to find whatever I can to learn more. I have found an > Oreilly book out there, but the TOC reads almost the exact same as > the online documentation. I ask myself - have they lifted the > documentat

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Davies
I have to agree. In my experience the average database user out there does not need the entire functionality of something like Oracle. It is because of this that I have used MySQL for many years now. In this light (please accept my confession as to being a more prolific MySQL user), I am becoming

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-14 Thread Anton . Nikiforov
Hello Bob! Everybody knows that PostgreSQL is better than MySQL and supports more features etc. But remember - the main issue of database systems now is web that is being build mainly by students that do not even know what database engines are made for. At least here (My second job is Instructor in

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
(I do wonder how quickly they are running through that $19 mil investment though ...) Let's see if they can beat GB? *evil grin* I seriously doubt they will be a GB... MySQL is at least making money (probably not profit though). They have a huge, loyal following and presumably a decent s

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Tom Lane wrote: > "Bob Powell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I find the recent articles in various trade publications a little > > disturbing due to the lack of PostgrSQL mention. > > You are seeing the effects of MySQL AB's large marketing budget; > they have the time and m

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-13 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Tom" == Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tom> "Bob Powell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I find the recent articles in various trade publications a little >> disturbing due to the lack of PostgrSQL mention. Tom> You are seeing the effects of MySQL AB's large marketing budget; Tom> the

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-13 Thread Tom Lane
"Bob Powell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I find the recent articles in various trade publications a little > disturbing due to the lack of PostgrSQL mention. You are seeing the effects of MySQL AB's large marketing budget; they have the time and money to cause such articles to appear. I'm not su

Re: [GENERAL] Postgress and MYSQL

2004-01-13 Thread John Sidney-Woollett
Bob Powell said: > I continue to see articles about how IBM may be considering MYSQL for > development an open_source web database. Why would IBM use and promote postgres when it is much closer an offering to DB2 than MySQL, and a much bigger commercial threat? I'll bet that IBM will be planning