Re: [HACKERS] functions returning records

2001-06-27 Thread Karel Zak
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 05:11:47PM -0400, Alex Pilosov wrote: I started thinking about Tom's idea to implement functions as table source. To me, it seems that a very few changes are necessary: a) parser must be changed to allow functioncall to be a table_ref (easy) b) when a Query node

AW: [HACKERS] functions returning records

2001-06-27 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
For the result from foo() you must somewhere define attributes (names). Where? In CREATE FUNCTION statement? Possible must be: select name1, name2 from foo() where name1 10; Yes, optimal would imho also be if the foo() somehow had access to the where restriction, so it could only

Re: AW: [HACKERS] functions returning records

2001-06-27 Thread Reinoud van Leeuwen
For the result from foo() you must somewhere define attributes (names). Where? In CREATE FUNCTION statement? Possible must be: select name1, name2 from foo() where name1 10; Yes, optimal would imho also be if the foo() somehow had access to the where restriction, so it could only

AW: [HACKERS] Non-trivial rewriting sql query

2001-06-27 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
Let's consider some simple example: create table tst ( a int4, b int4, c int4); select * from tst where a=2 and c=0; we need something like: select * from tst where str and c=0; where str is a string resulting by call ourfunc(table.a, 2) and looks like 'b=2*2 or

AW: [HACKERS] Re: Encrypting pg_shadow passwords

2001-06-27 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 10:18:37AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: though I would note that anyone who is able to examine the contents of pg_shadow has *already* broken into your database note: the dbadmin may not be the system administrator, but the dbadmin, by default (with plaintext) can

AW: [HACKERS] Benchmarking

2001-06-27 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
#! /bin/sh pgbench -i -s 2 test for i in 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 do t=`expr 640 / $i` pgbench -t $t -c $i test echo = sync == With 7.1 you will probably want a checkpoint instead of sync here: psql -c checkpoint; template1 ; sleep 10 The sync does not help,

AW: AW: [HACKERS] functions returning records

2001-06-27 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
For the result from foo() you must somewhere define attributes (names). Where? In CREATE FUNCTION statement? Possible must be: select name1, name2 from foo() where name1 10; Yes, optimal would imho also be if the foo() somehow had access to the where restriction, so it could

Re: AW: [HACKERS] functions returning records

2001-06-27 Thread Karel Zak
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:56:43AM +0200, Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: For the result from foo() you must somewhere define attributes (names). Where? In CREATE FUNCTION statement? Possible must be: select name1, name2 from foo() where name1 10; Yes, optimal would imho also

AW: AW: AW: [HACKERS] functions returning records

2001-06-27 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
In my setup the function would be hidden by a view. Its a different problem. Functions returning tables do just that, return tables, they won't care just what from that table you need. Exposing pieces of optimizer to your function doesn't seem to me like a great idea... Ok, I think i need

AW: [HACKERS] functions returning records

2001-06-27 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
For the result from foo() you must somewhere define attributes (names). Where? In CREATE FUNCTION statement? Possible must be: Function must be returning an existing reltype. I understand its a major restriction, but I can't think of a better way. Yup, that's how Informix does it. It

Re: AW: [HACKERS] functions returning records

2001-06-27 Thread Karel Zak
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 08:42:07AM -0400, Alex Pilosov wrote: On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Karel Zak wrote: This is a little bit better, but, results in following syntax: GRANT SELECT ON FOO(int4). I'm not sure if this really makes sense. Its not a select permission, its an execute permission on a

Re: AW: [HACKERS] Benchmarking

2001-06-27 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
#! /bin/sh pgbench -i -s 2 test for i in 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 do t=`expr 640 / $i` pgbench -t $t -c $i test echo = sync == With 7.1 you will probably want a checkpoint instead of sync here: psql -c checkpoint; template1 ; sleep 10 The sync does not

Re: [HACKERS] stuck spin lock with many concurrent users

2001-06-27 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
Tatsuo Ishii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In my understanding the deadlock check is performed every time the backend aquires lock. Once the it aquires, it kill the timer. However, under heavy transactions such as pgbench generates, chances are that the checking fires, and it tries to aquire

Re: [HACKERS] functions returning records

2001-06-27 Thread Tom Lane
Hannu Krosing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alex Pilosov wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: 1: will it be possible to return multiple result sets? (in Sybase any select statement that is not redirected to variables or a table goes to the client, so it is quite common to do

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Encrypting pg_shadow passwords

2001-06-27 Thread Tom Lane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Ch. Eigler) writes: tgl wrote: : What this discussion seems to come down to is whether we should take a : backward step in one area of security (security against wire-sniffing) : to take a forward step in another (not storing plaintext passwords). It seems to me

Re: [HACKERS] Re: postgresql 7.1.1 and textout and textin

2001-06-27 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: any points to convert textout and textin to 7.1 ? Look in src/backend/utils/adt/ for examples of functions called from within other functions. You will want to upgrade to the new calling convention for functions, and will need to use some macros and

Re: [HACKERS] Data

2001-06-27 Thread Tom Lane
Phillip Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en html Hi pI trying to compare oracle vs postgresql , so Inbsp;have a table containing about 7.6 mil records but every time Inbsp;try to do a simple select on the table it throws a core dump

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Encrypting pg_shadow passwords

2001-06-27 Thread Tom Lane
Frank Ch. Eigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having scanned over the discussion again, my understanding is that Jim's proposed changes don't affect backwards compatibility. As long as user passwords continue to be passed in plaintext to the server, the server can store encrypted passwords in

Re: [HACKERS] Re: 7.2 items

2001-06-27 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce Momjian writes: Please, consider a BLOB column type without having to do lo_import, lo_export. Yep, big needed item. Maybe we could make the BLOB type a wrapper around the lo_* functions? The BLOB value would only store the oid. What

Re: [HACKERS] functions returning records

2001-06-27 Thread Tom Lane
Jan Wieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Adding a new relkind that means 'record'. So we use pg_class, pg_attribute and pg_type as we do for tables and views to describe a structure. It seems fairly ugly to have a pg_class entry for something that isn't a table or

Re: [HACKERS] Re: 7.2 items

2001-06-27 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane writes: What for/why bother? A toastable bytea column would do just as well. There's still a 1 or 2 GB limit for data stored in that. 1 Gb, I believe ... but LOs are not a lot better; they'd max out at 2 or at most 4 Gb, depending on

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Encrypting pg_shadow passwords

2001-06-27 Thread Tom Lane
Frank Ch. Eigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I see finally. You already put a custom little challenge/response authentication scheme into postgresql, and want to keep that working. (May I ask when/why that went in at all? Long before any of the current generation of developers, AFAIK.

Re: [HACKERS] pg_largeobject is a security hole

2001-06-27 Thread Philip Warner
At 12:27 27/06/01 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: I propose that initdb should do REVOKE ALL on pg_largeobject FROM public May have an issue with PG_DUMP, which does a 'select oid from pg_largeobject', I think. Philip Warner

Re: [HACKERS] functions returning records

2001-06-27 Thread Tom Lane
Hannu Krosing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: It seems fairly ugly to have a pg_class entry for something that isn't a table or even a table-like entity. I dont think that sequence is any more table-like than record. Oh? It's got storage, it's got columns, you can select from

Re: [HACKERS] pg_largeobject is a security hole

2001-06-27 Thread Tom Lane
Philip Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 12:27 27/06/01 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: I propose that initdb should do REVOKE ALL on pg_largeobject FROM public May have an issue with PG_DUMP, which does a 'select oid from pg_largeobject', I think. Hmm. [sound of grepping] So does psql's

Re: [HACKERS] Re: 7.2 items

2001-06-27 Thread Philip Warner
At 23:55 27/06/01 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Hannu Krosing writes: Is there an ISO/ANSI SQL interface to BLOB's defined someplace ? It's basically no different from regular character strings, i.e., substring(), position(), ||, etc. So no standard seek/read/write type interface ?

Re: [HACKERS] pg_largeobject is a security hole

2001-06-27 Thread Philip Warner
At 19:49 27/06/01 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Hmm. [sound of grepping] So does psql's \lo_list command. That's annoying ... the list of large object OIDs is *exactly* what you'd want to hide from the unwashed masses. Oh well, I'll leave bad enough alone for now. I suspect this would be cleaned