Re: [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
We'd like to avoid such unpleasant surprises, but how to get the word out? More prominent placement of how to contribute would probably help. The PGF could help with this as well once it is done. Right now it is ether on how to contribute unless you know where to look. Right now on the front

Re: [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 11:02:51PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Right now on the front page when we ask for support we are asking for people to donate money. We don't need money. We need people. The support link goes to bandwidth but a great deal of the project is hosted over many, many

Re: [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
If money's not an issue anymore, can we get a bigger box to host pgfoundry on then? :) It's been done and is in the process of being brought up at a new colo facility. There is also a backup box being built for failover purposes ;) Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake Command Prompt, Inc.

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Jim C. Nasby
Anyone interested in pooling funds for features should take a look at http://people.freebsd.org/~phk/funding.html, which is about a FreeBSD developer who offered to work full-time on developing some specific features should enough people donate. Also worthy of mention is

Re: [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 11:21:35PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: If money's not an issue anymore, can we get a bigger box to host pgfoundry on then? :) It's been done and is in the process of being brought up at a new colo facility. There is also a backup box being built for failover

Re: [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Any ETA? I don't mean to harp, but it looks really bad when someone new to postgresql comes to investigate something and the site is just crawling. Well the backup should come up in a couple of weeks. I know that the new pgFoundry is being worked on right now. Josh would have a better idea.

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Nicolai Petri (lists)
Anyone interested in pooling funds for features should take a look at http://people.freebsd.org/~phk/funding.html, which is about a FreeBSD developer who offered to work full-time on developing some specific features should enough people donate. Also worthy of mention is

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Kris Jurka
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Nicolai Petri (lists) wrote: We also use PostgreSQL as our primary db so it would be more than likely that we would donate money for something similar with postgresql if either : a) we can direct the money at one or more specific tasks or b) the tasks founded

Re: [HACKERS] [proposal] protocol extension to support loadable stream

2005-04-30 Thread Neil Conway
Alvaro Herrera wrote: BTW, why not get rid of src/corba? Good question; I'll remove it from HEAD tomorrow, barring any objections. -Neil ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Rob Butler
I read the hackers list all the time, and have for years, and my company sponsors PG events every few months, and I would consider myself fairly plugged in to PG, and this is the first I have seen/heard of the PostgreSQL Foundation http://thepostgresqlfoundation.org/ Perhaps a little more

Re: [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Regarding the secret code stuff - I predict that it will quickly bite whoever does it, unless they are extremely lucky. Yeah. Bruce and I were worrying about this on the phone today. If a company is doing some work with the intent

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Bruce Momjian
Kris Jurka wrote: One thing that definitely would be nice would be to be able to combine funds from various sponsors for various features. Alone a company can't spring for it, but by pooling resources it could get done. This is a lot tougher to coordinate and unless there is a complete

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Bruce Momjian
pgman wrote: Kris Jurka wrote: One thing that definitely would be nice would be to be able to combine funds from various sponsors for various features. Alone a company can't spring for it, but by pooling resources it could get done. This is a lot tougher to coordinate and unless

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Robert Treat
On Saturday 30 April 2005 02:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote: We'd like to avoid such unpleasant surprises, but how to get the word out? More prominent placement of how to contribute would probably help. The PGF could help with this as well once it is done. Right now it is ether on how to

[HACKERS] Output functions with multiple arguments considered harmful

2005-04-30 Thread Tom Lane
An example that Elein put up yesterday: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2005-04/msg01384.php caused me to realize that type output functions that depend on additional arguments to determine what they are dealing with are fundamentally security holes. It is trivial to crash 8.0's

[HACKERS] pg_locks needs a facelift

2005-04-30 Thread Tom Lane
There was some previous discussion in a thread starting at http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2005-01/msg00750.php about expanding the pg_locks view to provide more useful support for contrib/userlock locks. Also, the changes Alvaro and I just finished for sharable row locks mean that

Re: [HACKERS] Output functions with multiple arguments considered harmful

2005-04-30 Thread elein
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 04:17:59PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: An example that Elein put up yesterday: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2005-04/msg01384.php caused me to realize that type output functions that depend on additional arguments to determine what they are dealing with are

Re: [HACKERS] Output functions with multiple arguments considered harmful

2005-04-30 Thread Tom Lane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (elein) writes: On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 04:17:59PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: It is trivial to crash 8.0's record_out by lying to it about the rowtype of its first argument. Is it not as trivial to crash it if one passes bad data into it? Why is the oid arg worse than the data

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread David Fetter
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 10:37:06AM +0200, Nicolai Petri (lists) wrote: Anyone interested in pooling funds for features should take a look at http://people.freebsd.org/~phk/funding.html, which is about a FreeBSD developer who offered to work full-time on developing some specific features should

Re: [HACKERS] Output functions with multiple arguments considered

2005-04-30 Thread James William Pye
On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 16:17 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: An example that Elein put up yesterday: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2005-04/msg01384.php caused me to realize that type output functions that depend on additional arguments to determine what they are dealing with are

Re: [HACKERS] Output functions with multiple arguments considered harmful

2005-04-30 Thread elein
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 05:31:28PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (elein) writes: On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 04:17:59PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: It is trivial to crash 8.0's record_out by lying to it about the rowtype of its first argument. Is it not as trivial to crash it if one

[HACKERS] OLAP and PG and deja-vu

2005-04-30 Thread Mischa Sandberg
Just finished writing the PG rules to maintain a bunch of materialized (aggregate) views on a ROLAP cube --- yes, I've seen Jonathan Gardner's matview for postgres; didnt cover what I needed :-(. PG happens to be pretty convenient for roll-your-own OLAP, thanks to RULES and ARRAY datatypes. So

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Robert Treat
On Saturday 30 April 2005 17:40, David Fetter wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 10:37:06AM +0200, Nicolai Petri (lists) wrote: I totally agree. In our preference list I would have the following tasks : 1) IOT (Index Ordered Tables) Is this different from CLUSTER? I think what he is looking

[HACKERS] pl/Python

2005-04-30 Thread James William Pye
Greets, [apologies if an earlier dup gets unswallowed] Well, I've been solo'ing it for over a year now, and it's definitely time to make my presence known to the community and invite others to participate as I can't keep putting it off as I have been. There has always been something else that I

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Robert Treat
On Saturday 30 April 2005 06:05, Kris Jurka wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Nicolai Petri (lists) wrote: We also use PostgreSQL as our primary db so it would be more than likely that we would donate money for something similar with postgresql if either : a) we can direct the money at one or

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement

2005-04-30 Thread Robert Treat
Just wanted to address a couple of specific items here... On Saturday 30 April 2005 08:54, Rob Butler wrote: I read the hackers list all the time, and have for years, and my company sponsors PG events every few months, and I would consider myself fairly plugged in to PG, and this is the first