Re: [HACKERS] Profiling vs autovacuum

2007-11-03 Thread Gregory Stark
"Tom Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> However, accumulation of zillions of gmon.out files is definitely a >> downside of the approach; one that I've noticed myself. > Comments? All I can add is that I've run into this problem myself too. -- Gregory Stark EnterpriseDB http:/

Profiling vs autovacuum (was Re: [HACKERS] building 8.3beta2 w/ 'make check' consumes A LOT of disk space)

2007-11-03 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote: > However, accumulation of zillions of gmon.out files is definitely a > downside of the approach; one that I've noticed myself. I've also > noticed that it takes a heck of a long time to rm -rf $PGDATA once > you've built up a few tens of thousands of gprof subdirectories. What's > worse

Re: [HACKERS] should I worry?

2007-11-03 Thread Tom Lane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Is there a query I can use to know all the unamed trigger, delete them and > recreate with the right sentence? I've applied a patch that should persuade the backend to convert the old CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER commands into proper foreign-key constraints. I'd suggest ap

Re: [HACKERS] building 8.3beta2 w/ 'make check' consumes A LOT of disk space

2007-11-03 Thread Jörg Beyer
You see, I'm not a trained developer, I'm just a dumb psychologist, sometimes poking around w/ things I don't fully understand -- learning by doing, or die trying ;-) Give me at least three years... Seriously now, I didn't even think about possible downsides of --enable-profiling, I just thought

Re: [HACKERS] building 8.3beta2 w/ 'make check' consumes A LOT of disk space

2007-11-03 Thread Tom Lane
J=?ISO-8859-1?B?9g==?=rg Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Attached is the log with the "du" output, one block for the build directory, > one for the installation directory, and one for the 8.3-cluster. Some > comments are added. > I suspect gprof to be the culprit, everything gprof related is i

Re: [HACKERS] proposal casting from XML[] to int[], numeric[], text[]

2007-11-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
This has been saved for the 8.4 release: http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches_hold --- Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > > Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > Am Freitag, 28. September 2007 schrieb Nikolay Samokhvalov:

Re: [HACKERS] CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER compatibility issue

2007-11-03 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote: > 4. Try to auto-update inside the backend. I don't have an exact > proposal for how this would work, but I'm thinking in terms of having > the conversion key off CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER commands referencing > one of the built-in RI_FKey_xxx trigger functions. The tricky part here > is

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Eliminate more detoast copies for packed varlenas

2007-11-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
This has been saved for the 8.4 release: http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches_hold --- Gregory Stark wrote: > "Tom Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Gregory Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> O

Re: [HACKERS] should I worry?

2007-11-03 Thread ohp
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Tom Lane wrote: > Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:42:24 -0400 > From: Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > pgsql-hackers list > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] should I worry? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I'm confused,

Re: [HACKERS] type money causes unrestorable dump

2007-11-03 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote: > Doing it would be a problem > when transporting dump files across platforms: what if the > appropriate locale name is spelled differently on the new machine? The question is which is more likely? Using a dump on a similar platform with different locale settings is fairly common

Re: [HACKERS] type money causes unrestorable dump

2007-11-03 Thread Tom Lane
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> A more direct approach to the problem might be to change pg_dump to >> set lc_monetary, as it does for client_encoding ... > Certainly OK by me. Greg's objection caused me to rethink that. Doing it would be a

Re: [HACKERS] Text <-> C string

2007-11-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
This has been saved for the 8.4 release: http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches_hold --- Brendan Jurd wrote: > As discussed on -hackers, I'm trying to get rid of some redundant code > by creating a widely u

Re: [HACKERS] type money causes unrestorable dump

2007-11-03 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:39:48 -0400 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I never received a response on this. Here is the full diff with the > > above change. Since it is documentation and not code, is it OK to > > commit this now? > > The added

[HACKERS] CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER compatibility issue

2007-11-03 Thread Tom Lane
Back when we agreed that we should treat CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER as a documented, non-deprecated user command, I made a change so that it would use the specified name as the actual name of the trigger in pg_trigger. Pre-8.3 releases would auto-generate sorta-unique names of the form "RI_Constrai

Re: [HACKERS] type money causes unrestorable dump

2007-11-03 Thread Gregory Stark
"Tom Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A more direct approach to the problem might be to change pg_dump to > set lc_monetary, as it does for client_encoding ... It should probably note that if the machine being restored onto has a different libc it could still not be restorable even with the co

Re: [HACKERS] type money causes unrestorable dump

2007-11-03 Thread Tom Lane
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I never received a response on this. Here is the full diff with the > above change. Since it is documentation and not code, is it OK to > commit this now? The added text needs some copy-editing, I think. How about Since the output of this da

Re: [HACKERS] building 8.3beta2 w/ 'make check' consumes A LOT of disk space

2007-11-03 Thread Tom Lane
J=?ISO-8859-1?B?9g==?=rg Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I generally run make check, and that consumes some extra disk space, of > course. While versions 8.1 and 8.2 were quite happy with a total of > approximately 280-300 MB of free disk space for the build, 8.3 beta 2 > consumes *up to 1.6 Gi

Re: [HACKERS] should I worry?

2007-11-03 Thread ohp
Sorry to post on my own post, I found this (as a little exemple I've got plenty of these) could that be the culprit and how to correct that? -- -- Name: RI_ConstraintTrigger_609094000; Type: TRIGGER; Schema: public; Owner: delain -- CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER "" AFTER DELETE ON objets FRO

Re: [HACKERS] should I worry?

2007-11-03 Thread Tom Lane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm confused, until I have clearence to send the schema, here are pg logs: > Nov 3 14:44:20 sun postgres[17963]: [189-1] ERROR: trigger "" for > relation "objets" already exists > Nov 3 14:44:20 sun postgres[17963]: [189-2] STATEMENT: CREATE CONSTRAINT > TRIGGER "

[HACKERS] building 8.3beta2 w/ 'make check' consumes A LOT of disk space

2007-11-03 Thread Jörg Beyer
Hello. I compiled and installed PostgreSQL 8.3 beta 2 on OS X 10.4.10 these days, and noticed a minor issue that may lead to some problems, occasionally. I generally run make check, and that consumes some extra disk space, of course. While versions 8.1 and 8.2 were quite happy with a total of ap

Re: [HACKERS] should I worry?

2007-11-03 Thread ohp
Hi Tom et all! Thanks for your mails. On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Tom Lane wrote: > Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:08:24 -0400 > From: Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > pgsql-hackers list > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] should I worry? > > [EMAI

Re: [HACKERS] type money causes unrestorable dump

2007-11-03 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:16:08 -0400 "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:02:38 +0200 > Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2007 schrieb D'Arcy J.M. Cain: > > > +    Due to locale changes this type may have problems with dump and > >

Re: [HACKERS] Test lab

2007-11-03 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Tom Lane wrote: > "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> My question is -hackers, is who wants first bite and what do they >> want :) > > Something I'd like to have back real soon is the daily DBT run against > CVS HEAD that Mark Wong was doing at OSDL. Maybe we don't need a > particul

Re: [HACKERS] beta2, I can't set UTF-8 for czech locales on win

2007-11-03 Thread Magnus Hagander
Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Pavel Stehule wrote: >> On 01/11/2007, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> "Pavel Stehule" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: When I try manually rebuild cluster I had second problem: C:\PostgreSQL\bin>initdb -D ../data The program "postgres" is needed by initdb