Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-02-01 Thread Chander Ganesan
Chander Ganesan wrote: Ivo, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html CertFirst http://www.certfirst.com/postgreSql.htm My question is about the validate of this c

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-02-01 Thread Chander Ganesan
Ivo, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html CertFirst http://www.certfirst.com/postgreSql.htm My question is about the validate of this certification for the cli

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-02-01 Thread Chander Ganesan
Joshua D. Drake wrote: To cure the shortage of experienced Postgres folks there is only one solution - err, more experience! So the need is for good training courses (not necessarily certification and all the IMHO nonsense that comes with that), and a willingness on the part of employers to inves

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-24 Thread Joshua D. Drake
>> Also comparing Postgres to MYSQL is also pretty funny, since there are >> instances of MYSQL LOSING databases due to corruption because they do >> not have PITR and their transaction rollback feature did not work >> properly last time I checked. This is really a issue of people being >> close m

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-24 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
On Jan 24, 2007, at 9:50 AM, John Zubac wrote: I find your statements about Postgres being a huge business risk pretty laughable. First of all, Postgres is based on SQL92 and SQL99 standards which means that most scripts are pretty much the same compared to MSSQL and Oracle. The only thing

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-24 Thread John Zubac
reSQL-development Subject: Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >> Get a CCIE and tell me that again :-) When you are handed a >> complicated >> network of routers and switches running all sorts of version of >

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:50 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: To cure the shortage of experienced Postgres folks there is only one solution - err, more experience! So the need is for good training courses (not necessarily certification and all the IMHO nonsense that comes with that), and a willingness on t

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Mark Kirkwood wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: >>> To cure the shortage of experienced Postgres folks there is only one >>> solution - err, more experience! So the need is for good training >>> courses (not necessarily certification and all the IMHO nonsense that >>> comes with that), and a willingn

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Joshua D. Drake wrote: To cure the shortage of experienced Postgres folks there is only one solution - err, more experience! So the need is for good training courses (not necessarily certification and all the IMHO nonsense that comes with that), and a willingness on the part of employers to inves

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
> To cure the shortage of experienced Postgres folks there is only one > solution - err, more experience! So the need is for good training > courses (not necessarily certification and all the IMHO nonsense that > comes with that), and a willingness on the part of employers to invest > in upskillin

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Theo Schlossnagle wrote: Get a CCIE and tell me that again :-) When you are handed a complicated network of routers and switches running all sorts of version of IOS and CatOS and you go to lunch, they break it and you have a certain time allotment to fix it all. I know all about CCIE - o

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
> Oracle's certification programs have helped Oracle > considerably in gaining the number of Oracle professionals in the job > market. PostgreSQL certification has the opportunity to do the same and > in doing so increase overall PostgreSQL adoption. That's a good thing. Well maybe it is just m

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 05:19:45PM -0500, Theo Schlossnagle wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > >>Get a CCIE and tell me that again :-) When you are handed a > >>complicated network of routers and switches running all sorts of > >>version of IOS and CatOS and you

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Get a CCIE and tell me that again :-) When you are handed a complicated network of routers and switches running all sorts of version of IOS and CatOS and you go to lunch, they break it and you have a certain time allotment to fix it all

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
> Get a CCIE and tell me that again :-) When you are handed a complicated > network of routers and switches running all sorts of version of IOS and > CatOS and you go to lunch, they break it and you have a certain time > allotment to fix it all. > > Most certifications are not simple multiple ch

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:04 PM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: Theo Schlossnagle wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:33 PM, David Fetter wrote: On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Theo Schlossnagle wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:33 PM, David Fetter wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I did like to know what you think about the postgresql >>> certifications provided for >>> >>> PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Theo Schlossnagle wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:33 PM, David Fetter wrote: On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html CertFi

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 04:41:03PM -0500, Theo Schlossnagle wrote: > On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:33 PM, David Fetter wrote: > >On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: > >>Hello, > >>I did like to know what you think about the postgresql > >>certifications provided for > >> > >>PostgreSQL

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:33 PM, David Fetter wrote: On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html CertFirst http://www.certfirst.c

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:52:08AM -0200, Iannsp wrote: > Hello, > I did like to know what you think about the postgresql > certifications provided for > > PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html > > CertFirst http://www.certfirst.com/postgreSql.htm > > My question is ab

Re: [HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Iannsp wrote: > Hello, > I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications > provided for > > PostgreSQL CE > http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html > > CertFirst > http://www.certfirst.com/postgreSql.htm > > My question is about the validate of this certification

[HACKERS] About PostgreSQL certification

2007-01-23 Thread Iannsp
Hello, I did like to know what you think about the postgresql certifications provided for PostgreSQL CE http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/news_en.html CertFirst http://www.certfirst.com/postgreSql.htm My question is about the validate of this certification for the clients. Make difference