Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Josh Berkus
Peter, Attached is a new draft of the release notes. What I've done in this version is added more subsections and arranged stuff into groups by funcitonality area. I think this makes the notes vastly easier to scan; having 25 items generically under server wasn't helpful at all to find features

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: Attached is a new draft of the release notes. I went over this quickly, and attach an updated version. This is updated to current CVS HEAD, and wordsmithed a little bit, and I removed some things that didn't seem worth documenting. In particular, the

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Josh Berkus
On 8/17/09 11:51 AM, Tom Lane wrote: I went over this quickly, and attach an updated version. This is updated to current CVS HEAD, and wordsmithed a little bit, and I removed some things that didn't seem worth documenting. In particular, the introduction claims that back-patched bug fixes

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Josh Berkus
All, New version, incorporating Tom's changes and some additional reordering. Particularly, we seemed to vacillate between present and past tense for the patch descriptions. I have changed all to past tense. Also, should we be adding patch author names to these notes? -- Josh Berkus

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: On 8/17/09 11:51 AM, Tom Lane wrote: I went over this quickly, and attach an updated version. This is updated to current CVS HEAD, and wordsmithed a little bit, and I removed some things that didn't seem worth documenting. In particular, the

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: Particularly, we seemed to vacillate between present and past tense for the patch descriptions. I have changed all to past tense. Actually, present tense is our general style for the release notes, and I had carefully made them all present tense ;-). It

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Josh Berkus
Tom, Actually, present tense is our general style for the release notes, and I had carefully made them all present tense ;-). It doesn't appear to me that you've been consistent about it here anyway. OK, switching back to present tense then. Does anyone else see anything missing? Also,

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: Also, does the ADD/DROP COLUMN plpgsql patch fix any cases other than RETURNS QUERY? I can't tell from the patch. Yes, I believe it does, but hadn't bothered to work up any test cases. The places it touched in plpgsql are * returning a single

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On mån, 2009-08-17 at 10:39 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: Peter, Attached is a new draft of the release notes. What I've done in this version is added more subsections and arranged stuff into groups by funcitonality area. I think this makes the notes vastly easier to scan; having 25 items

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Josh Berkus
Peter, Since I'd need to install haskell on my system before installing pandoc, I've attached my final edit of the RST file so that I don't hold things up. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. www.pgexperts.com .. -*- mode: rst -*- = Release 8.5alpha1 =

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On mån, 2009-08-17 at 14:29 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: Since I'd need to install haskell on my system before installing pandoc, I've attached my final edit of the RST file so that I don't hold things up. committed that -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Dimitri Fontaine
Hi, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: Will do. Teaching myself RST now I've been doing a lot of RST editing before, and found it pretty straightforward. Except for default table handling, where ascii-art maintenance is a pain, or you have to use extended tools, like emacs table mode

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Massa, Harald Armin
within source code, build options there is: - Reserve the shared memory region during backend startup on Windows, so that memory allocated by starting third party DLLs doesn't end up conflicting with it. Hopefully this solves the long-time issue with could not reattach to shared memory

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Dimitri Fontaine wrote: Hi, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: Will do. Teaching myself RST now I've been doing a lot of RST editing before, and found it pretty straightforward. Except for default table handling, where ascii-art maintenance is a pain, or you have to use

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Thursday 13 August 2009 17:07:38 Alvaro Herrera wrote: I wonder if this format can be converted to SGML DocBook automatically. Yes, that's why I used it. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription:

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Tom Lane
Massa, Harald Armin c...@ghum.de writes: within source code, build options there is: - Reserve the shared memory region during backend startup on Windows, so that memory allocated by starting third party DLLs doesn't end up conflicting with it. Hopefully this solves the long-time issue

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tom Lane wrote: In any case, it is not the function of the alpha release notes to discuss changes in earlier release branches. The reason the commit log points out the back-patch is to make it easier to extract the information when we prepare release notes for the back-branch updates. Hmm,

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com writes: Tom Lane wrote: In any case, it is not the function of the alpha release notes to discuss changes in earlier release branches. The reason the commit log points out the back-patch is to make it easier to extract the information when we prepare

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Massa, Harald Armin c...@ghum.de writes: within source code, build options there is: - Reserve the shared memory region during backend startup on Windows, so that memory allocated by starting third party DLLs doesn't end up conflicting with it. Hopefully this solves

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-12 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 03:34:22 Josh Berkus wrote: On 8/11/09 3:27 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: OK, since there was no clear consensus or volunteer for preparing release notes for alpha 1, I have started something. Let me know what you think. Actually, the consensus was that Bruce was

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-12 Thread Josh Berkus
Can you export DocBook from that? Not without writing some custom perl code, no. Should we stick your release notes on git somewhere? I'd like to expand the and add a couple of things. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. www.pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-12 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 19:27:06 Josh Berkus wrote: Can you export DocBook from that? Not without writing some custom perl code, no. Should we stick your release notes on git somewhere? I'd like to expand the and add a couple of things. I say just take the file and edit it. -- Sent

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-12 Thread Josh Berkus
On 8/12/09 11:13 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: On Wednesday 12 August 2009 19:27:06 Josh Berkus wrote: Can you export DocBook from that? Not without writing some custom perl code, no. Should we stick your release notes on git somewhere? I'd like to expand the and add a couple of things. I

[HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
OK, since there was no clear consensus or volunteer for preparing release notes for alpha 1, I have started something. Let me know what you think. (reStructuredText, if you want to play around) .. -*- mode: rst -*- = Release 8.5alpha1 = .. last commit: Simplify

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Albert Cervera i Areny
A Dimecres, 12 d'agost de 2009, Peter Eisentraut va escriure: OK, since there was no clear consensus or volunteer for preparing release notes for alpha 1, I have started something. Let me know what you think. (reStructuredText, if you want to play around) Maybe I'd be interesting to add

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Mike
If I didn't read this email I would still be trying to figure out how to use the explain XML patch. Thanks Albert. I found the syntax for the explain xml format to be quite difficult to understand at first, it would be nice to give an example or two, ie: EXPLAIN (ANALYZE, FORMAT XML) SELECT *

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Mike wrote: The thing that caused me the most trouble was that the , wasn't very noticeable sitting near the end of this line: EXPLAIN [ ( { ANALYZE boolean | VERBOSE boolean | COSTS boolean | FORMAT { TEXT | XML | JSON } } [, ...] ) ] statement It may just be me, but I read that as the

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Josh Berkus
On 8/11/09 3:27 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: OK, since there was no clear consensus or volunteer for preparing release notes for alpha 1, I have started something. Let me know what you think. Actually, the consensus was that Bruce was not going to share, so Robert and I didn't want to bother

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Alvaro Herreraalvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote: Mike wrote: The thing that caused me the most trouble was that the , wasn't very noticeable sitting near the end of this line: EXPLAIN [ ( { ANALYZE boolean | VERBOSE boolean | COSTS boolean | FORMAT { TEXT |

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: Hmm, I thought we had some examples in there, but now that I look we only have an example for COSTS OFF, not for FORMAT. That does seem like an oversight. I thought about adding one when I committed the patch, but concluded that there was no point