Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-14 Thread Karel Zak
On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 06:29:51PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I am not sure what can be done to solve this in the future. There > > are only a limited number of us who have the experience and time to > > review and comment on very complex patches. > > The issue as I

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joe Conway wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > >>Well, I note (and I'm not being unkind or anything here) that a lot of > >>the high level committers we have haven't been so active this release. > >>Peter and Joe haven't been around much and Jan has been busy with S

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Joe Conway
Bruce Momjian wrote: Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Well, I note (and I'm not being unkind or anything here) that a lot of the high level committers we have haven't been so active this release. Peter and Joe haven't been around much and Jan has been busy with Slony. I think this is (in part at l

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Josh Berkus wrote: > ( This is > probably why many American corporations end their fiscal year in > midsummer; nothing is going to get done anyway, might as well clean > up. ) And that is also the time when volunteers will have the most time to spare. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgr

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: True, but northern-hemisphere summer is only 6 weeks old, and we have had these issues for many months --- it isn't a new problem. Alvaro didn't get the feedback he needed in March either.

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > True, but northern-hemisphere summer is only 6 weeks old, and we have > > had these issues for many months --- it isn't a new problem. Alvaro > > didn't get the feedback he needed in March either. :-( > > This is true,

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: True, but northern-hemisphere summer is only 6 weeks old, and we have had these issues for many months --- it isn't a new problem. Alvaro didn't get the feedback he needed in March either. :-( This is true, but Josh does have a point ... you took a much

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > The result is that we chronically have less manpower when just when we need > > everybody. And some of us end up spending 11 hours a day in front of the > > screen when we should be outside soaking up Vitamin D. > > > > Therefore, I propose that the next version either

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The issue as I see it is not reviewing patches, but defining features. > Someone sets out to develop "nested transactions", and three days after > feature freeze we have the first large discussion about what nested > transactions really are, what t

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Josh Berkus wrote: > Chris, all: > > > Well, I note (and I'm not being unkind or anything here) that a lot of > > the high level committers we have haven't been so active this release. > > Peter and Joe haven't been around much and Jan has been busy with Slony. > > We also lost Thomas Lockhart.

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Josh Berkus
Chris, all: > Well, I note (and I'm not being unkind or anything here) that a lot of > the high level committers we have haven't been so active this release. > Peter and Joe haven't been around much and Jan has been busy with Slony. > We also lost Thomas Lockhart. Neil's also away on holidays.

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian wrote: > I am not sure what can be done to solve this in the future. There > are only a limited number of us who have the experience and time to > review and comment on very complex patches. The issue as I see it is not reviewing patches, but defining features. Someone sets out to

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Marko Karppinen
On Jul 13, 2004, at 17:02, Bruce Momjian wrote: One failing that has appeared during the 7.5 development cycle is that we as a community haven't been able to provide timely feedback to developers working on large feature additions. I am particularly thinking of Alvaro (nested transactions) and Simo

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > One failing that has appeared during the 7.5 development cycle is that > > we as a community haven't been able to provide timely feedback to > > developers working on large feature additions. > > > > I am particularly thinking of Alvaro (nested transactions) and

Re: [HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
One failing that has appeared during the 7.5 development cycle is that we as a community haven't been able to provide timely feedback to developers working on large feature additions. I am particularly thinking of Alvaro (nested transactions) and Simon (PITR), where we haven't been able to give the

[HACKERS] Assisting developers

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
One failing that has appeared during the 7.5 development cycle is that we as a community haven't been able to provide timely feedback to developers working on large feature additions. I am particularly thinking of Alvaro (nested transactions) and Simon (PITR), where we haven't been able to give th