Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-13 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Peter Eisentraut wrote: There is also a big difference between supporting some proprietary software and making proprietary software a de facto requirement for participating in the development effort. Just to complete the information on this, I have it on good authority (i.e. from Larry McVo

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-10 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Reinoud van Leeuwen said: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:30:09AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >> Tom Lane wrote: >> > I haven't seen any particular reason why we should adopt another >> > SCM. Perhaps BitKeeper or SubVersion would be better for our >> > purposes than CVS, but are they enough better

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: > Why? I understood that using BitKeeper for free for Open Source > projects is allowed. (but IANAL). > It is available (on many platforms). It works great. Once you use > changesets you'll never want to go back to cvs. There is a world of a difference between being free

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-10 Thread Reinoud van Leeuwen
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:30:09AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > I haven't seen any particular reason why we should adopt another SCM. > > Perhaps BitKeeper or SubVersion would be better for our purposes than > > CVS, but are they enough better to justify the switchover costs

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-09 Thread James William Pye
On 08/09/04:32/1, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > BitKeeper ist not open source, so it's out of the question for most > people. Subversion is shockingly unstable. I'm very open for > something that replaces CVS, but I'd rather not use any than one of > these two. >From my casual usage of svn, I hav

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-09 Thread Joerg Hessdoerfer
Hi, On Monday 09 August 2004 09:30, you wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > I haven't seen any particular reason why we should adopt another SCM. > > Perhaps BitKeeper or SubVersion would be better for our purposes than > > CVS, but are they enough better to justify the switchover costs? > > BitKeeper is

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-09 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote: > I haven't seen any particular reason why we should adopt another SCM. > Perhaps BitKeeper or SubVersion would be better for our purposes than > CVS, but are they enough better to justify the switchover costs? BitKeeper ist not open source, so it's out of the question for most pe

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-08 Thread Ross J. Reedstrom
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 01:18:02AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Maybe a better SCM could help with this, but I doubt it. > > I haven't seen any particular reason why we should adopt another SCM. > Perhaps BitKeeper or SubVersion would be better for our

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-07 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't think it was a problem of committers. To me it was a problem of > reviewers. Those are very scarce (for the bigger items it's mostly only > Tom). Yah. We have plenty of people authorized to commit, and we add more on a pretty regular basis.

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-07 Thread Joe Conway
Alvaro Herrera wrote: I don't think it was a problem of committers. To me it was a problem of reviewers. Those are very scarce (for the bigger items it's mostly only Tom). Maybe a better SCM could help with this, but I doubt it. As an example, I did read the autovacuum patch, but I had no usefu

Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-07 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 12:38:10PM +0200, Gaetano Mendola wrote: > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > >Subversion and arch have been mentioned, but so far there is no > >compelling reason to change. It'd take convincing at least a couple > >of core hackers to get the ball rolling ... > > Well, I think havi

Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment

2004-08-07 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Alvaro Herrera wrote: On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 01:34:20AM +0200, Gaetano Mendola wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: Yeah. I included your tab-complete patch in the patch I sent to pgsql-patches, which later Tom reworked and applied. His CVS comment didn't mention the tab completion change. This isn't

Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment

2004-08-06 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 01:34:20AM +0200, Gaetano Mendola wrote: > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > >Yeah. I included your tab-complete patch in the patch I sent to > >pgsql-patches, which later Tom reworked and applied. His CVS comment > >didn't mention the tab completion change. This isn't surprisin

Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment

2004-08-06 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Alvaro Herrera wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 06:42:03PM +0200, Gaetano Mendola wrote: I'm reading some comment on CVS and I seen this comment for tab-complete.c revision 1.109: Fix subtransaction behavior for large objects, temp namespace, files, password/group files. Also allow read-only subtra

Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment

2004-08-06 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 06:42:03PM +0200, Gaetano Mendola wrote: > I'm reading some comment on CVS and I seen this comment > for tab-complete.c revision 1.109: > > Fix subtransaction behavior for large objects, temp namespace, files, > password/group files. Also allow read-only subtransactions o

[HACKERS] CVS comment

2004-08-03 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Hi all, I'm reading some comment on CVS and I seen this comment for tab-complete.c revision 1.109: Fix subtransaction behavior for large objects, temp namespace, files, password/group files. Also allow read-only subtransactions of a read-write parent, but not vice versa. These are the reasonably