Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for Linux/Unix

2006-02-05 Thread August Zajonc
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: > Hi, > > As you know, many databases that run on Linux / Unix systems have a GUI > installer which make installation easier and more attractive for some > people. > > Our Windows Installer is very attractive, for example. > > Now, I and Burcu Guzel, who is a Senior Program

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 13:02 -0600, Jim C. Nasby wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:46:03AM +, Andreas Pflug wrote: > > Tino Wildenhain wrote: > > > > > > > >Figuring out the correct values for some of the buffers and costs > > >is still a bit tough. Otoh, I guess there is no easy way to predi

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:46:03AM +, Andreas Pflug wrote: > Tino Wildenhain wrote: > > > > >Figuring out the correct values for some of the buffers and costs > >is still a bit tough. Otoh, I guess there is no easy way to predict > >all these. > > pgAdmin has a mechanism to suggest values (cu

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 08:53:54PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >If I could install Oracle on Debian/AMD64 with a shell script, I'd drop > >Postgresql in a heartbeat. > > > >Obviously anybody is welcome and able to just write whatever software > >they feel is needed, but go ahead and count me am

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Rick Gigger
On Jan 31, 2006, at 12:54 AM, Tino Wildenhain wrote: Rick Gigger schrieb: I don't see why anyone has a problem with this. I am certainly never going to use it but if it helps someone who isn't a linux person to use it on a project when they would have used something else (like mysql) o

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Bricklen Anderson
J. Andrew Rogers wrote: A graphical installer for Unix is fine, but please, do not make it anything like Oracle's graphical installer. Oracle's graphical install process gives command line installs a good name for ease of use. J. Andrew Rogers I heartily second that! --

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Richard Huxton
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 19:35 -0800, Christopher Browne wrote: We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in planning pha

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Christopher Browne
> Hi, > > On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 19:35 -0800, Christopher Browne wrote: >> > We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please >> > drop me an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use >> > Python, so you need to be a Python guy to join the project. We >> > are in planning ph

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Andreas Pflug
Tino Wildenhain wrote: Figuring out the correct values for some of the buffers and costs is still a bit tough. Otoh, I guess there is no easy way to predict all these. pgAdmin has a mechanism to suggest values (currently for autovacuum and listen_address only), which waits for expansion :-)

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Dave Page schrieb: ... Well, strictly spoken a gui text editor is a gui... but I rather had in mind something guided with buttons, select boxes and stuff and references to documentation, calculations and the like. :-) Err, yes. pgAdmin? It's somewhat more than a simple text editor. Ah, ri

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Dave Page
> -Original Message- > From: Tino Wildenhain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 31 January 2006 10:53 > To: Dave Page > Cc: Rick Gigger; Marc G. Fournier; Joshua D. Drake; > Christopher Browne; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] New project laun

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Dave Page schrieb: ... As was said, a gui to produce postgresql.conf files (off host) can be of value. pgAdmin? Well, strictly spoken a gui text editor is a gui... but I rather had in mind something guided with buttons, select boxes and stuff and references to documentation, calculations

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Dave Page
ct: Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI > Installer for > > Hi, > > On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 09:15 +, Dave Page wrote: > > > > As was said, a gui to produce postgresql.conf files (off host) > > > can be of value. > > > > pgAdmin? >

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 09:15 +, Dave Page wrote: > > As was said, a gui to produce postgresql.conf files (off host) > > can be of value. > > pgAdmin? Installer should "produce" a postgresql.conf, based on some selections via the interface. Then we will use pgAdmin to edit, improve, etc.

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 19:35 -0800, Christopher Browne wrote: > > We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me > > an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you > > need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in planning phase, > > if y

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:41 -0800, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > How will you do an orderly upgrade from one revision to the next, > including all the dependencies? We are still in planning phase, any ideas of how to do that is welcome. > How will you distribute security updates? We are still

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 08:34 +0100, Tino Wildenhain wrote: > > http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pgnixinstaller/ > > > > We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me > > an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you > > need to be a Python guy

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Dave Page
: Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI > Installer for > > As was said, a gui to produce postgresql.conf files (off host) > can be of value. pgAdmin? Regards, Dave. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On Jan 30, 2006, at 7:52 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: There is a reason that even Oracle has a graphical installer on Linux, because most people installing the software: A. Don't know how to use it B. Probably don't know how to use Linux C. Don't want to. Except that the Oracle "graphical ins

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Rick Gigger schrieb: I don't see why anyone has a problem with this. I am certainly never going to use it but if it helps someone who isn't a linux person to use it on a project when they would have used something else (like mysql) or if it convinces someone to run postgres on linux instead

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Joshua D. Drake schrieb: ... As more and more people come on board people are going to want to download a .exe (a metaphor), double click and have it open an installer, they will then want to click next, next, continue, finish. You don't get that with apt-get install. Well you can use a fron

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Devrim GUNDUZ schrieb: Hi, As you know, many databases that run on Linux / Unix systems have a GUI installer which make installation easier and more attractive for some people. If you think of the *racle-GUI-Installer, most people find it very s*cking ;) Our Windows Installer is very attracti

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Steve Atkins
On Jan 30, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Tony Caduto wrote: Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: Have you looked at AutoPackage? http://autopackage.org screen shots. http://autopackage.org/gallery.html Has a GUI wizard if X windows is available and a command line wizard if no X is available. Using autopackage is

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Josh Berkus
Jeff, So why don't you just do that with Postgres? You could call it "Bootable PostgreSQL". It would be a big hit. When a new version comes out, you can just mail out a new DVD. Actually, we have these. We give them out at conferences. --Josh ---(end of broadcast)

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:53 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Oracle's graphical installer is a material impediment to Oracle > > adoption. The installer only works on systems where particular versions > > of Java and Motif libraries are available. On 64-bit Opteron systems it > > only works with

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Oracle's graphical installer is a material impediment to Oracle adoption. The installer only works on systems where particular versions of Java and Motif libraries are available. On 64-bit Opteron systems it only works with the peculiar 32-bit thunking tree favored by Red Hat and hardly anybod

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Tony Caduto
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: Have you looked at AutoPackage? http://autopackage.org screen shots. http://autopackage.org/gallery.html Has a GUI wizard if X windows is available and a command line wizard if no X is available. Using autopackage is similar to using MSI,Wise,Inno etc on Windows. Lat

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 19:52 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > > >On my Debian systems, I can install PostgreSQL quite readily via the > >command "apt-get install postgresql-8.1", which can get GUIed at least > >somewhat if I run aptitude, synaptic, or such... > > > > > Yes Christopher, you ca

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Rick Gigger
I don't see why anyone has a problem with this. I am certainly never going to use it but if it helps someone who isn't a linux person to use it on a project when they would have used something else (like mysql) or if it convinces someone to run postgres on linux instead of windows because

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote: On my Debian systems, I can install PostgreSQL quite readily via the command "apt-get install postgresql-8.1", which can get GUIed at least somewhat if I run aptitude, synaptic, or such... Yes Christopher, you can... I can, and Devrim can As m

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On my Debian systems, I can install PostgreSQL quite readily via the command "apt-get install postgresql-8.1", which can get GUIed at least somewhat if I run aptitude, synaptic, or such... Yes Christopher, you can... I can, and Devrim can As more and more people come on board people are

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for Linux/Unix systems

2006-01-30 Thread Christopher Browne
> We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me > an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you > need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in planning phase, > if you join us earlier, we will be able to share more ideas. You'd better de

[HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for Linux/Unix systems

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, As you know, many databases that run on Linux / Unix systems have a GUI installer which make installation easier and more attractive for some people. Our Windows Installer is very attractive, for example. Now, I and Burcu Guzel, who is a Senior Programmer, decided to launch a new project: p