Re: [HACKERS] beta to release

2010-05-08 Thread Simon Riggs
On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 08:12 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > (3) mentoring the GSoC > projects on matviews, json, and merge. Everything else is pretty > amorphous at this point, That's good you volunteered. I'm sorry to say that I'm really surprised to hear anyone thinks MERGE or matviews are suitabl

Re: [HACKERS] beta to release

2010-05-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Simon Riggs wrote: > I've often faced the issue you describe. I think its difficult for > everybody to help at this stage. In many ways it is a serialization and > it's good that Tom holds the gate tighter than normal at this point. > > The main thing I've tried to

Re: [HACKERS] beta to release

2010-05-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > IMHO, there is nothing wrong with you (or any other developer) spending time > working on v9.1 features if said person feels that they have satisfied > themselves that v9.0 is ready for release (ie. I think the best test anyone > can run,

Re: [HACKERS] beta to release

2010-05-08 Thread Simon Riggs
On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 18:26 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > > Robert Haas writes: > >> [ argues, in effect, for starting 9.1 development right now ] > > > > I can't stop you from spending your time as you please. My development > > time for at least

Re: [HACKERS] beta to release

2010-05-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 7 May 2010, Robert Haas wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Robert Haas writes: [ argues, in effect, for starting 9.1 development right now ] I can't stop you from spending your time as you please.  My development time for at least the next month or two is going

Re: [HACKERS] beta to release

2010-05-07 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: >> [ argues, in effect, for starting 9.1 development right now ] > > I can't stop you from spending your time as you please.  My development > time for at least the next month or two is going to be spent on > code-reading the H

Re: [HACKERS] beta to release

2010-05-07 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > [ argues, in effect, for starting 9.1 development right now ] I can't stop you from spending your time as you please. My development time for at least the next month or two is going to be spent on code-reading the HS/SR code and fixing bugs as they come in. I don't foresee

Re: [HACKERS] beta to release

2010-05-07 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > I would say the expectation for individual developers is "test, and > read code".  It's certainly not time to be starting new feature > development yet. I am humbly of the opinion that the expectation you have enclosed in quotation marks is far t

Re: [HACKERS] beta to release

2010-05-07 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > I am fuzzier on what happens now. I understand that it depends on > what bug reports we get as a result of beta testing, but what I don't > quite know is what the expectations are for individual developers, how > we're tracking what issues still need to be resolved, or what

[HACKERS] beta to release

2010-05-07 Thread Robert Haas
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> > What amazes me is how many people who closely follow our development are >> > mystified by what we do during that pre-beta period. >> >> Hey, I'm still mystified.  Maybe you and Tom could do twice-a-week >> status updates on what you're w