I think adding 'S' to \df confuses more than it helps.
Why that? Imho it would be consistent.
Andreas
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Robert Treat wrote:
Ugh. If I want to see the syntax of my functions, I'd be forced to use the
\df-+ syntax, and I'd argue people spend far more time wanting to see \df+
output on their own functions than they ever do on system functions.
imho the argument against \dfS is pretty weak. Letters
Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD wrote:
I think adding 'S' to \df confuses more than it helps.
Why that? Imho it would be consistent.
I thought it was strange to have alphabetic modifiers but I seem to be
the only one who is worried about it so forget my objection.
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Robert Treat wrote:
Ugh. If I want to see the syntax of my functions, I'd be forced to use the
\df-+ syntax, and I'd argue people spend far more time wanting to see \df+
output on their own functions than they ever do on system functions.
+1. I suspect Tom's use is pretty atypical. If I
Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
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Greg Stark wrote:
Well there's always \dtS and \dvS I don't see why typing \dfS is any harder.
It would be nice for this to be
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Agreed it would be nice to more clearly distingush user functions from
system ones, but how? I can't see how 'S' is going to help us because
\dS already shows system tables. Would it be \dfS? What is the logic
to that? Having 'S' be a flag
I talked to Greg via chat and it looks like '' is the best choice for
adding system object display:
\d shows system stuff
\df shows system functions
etc.
Greg is going to work on a patch for 8.1.
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I talked to Greg via chat and it looks like '' is the best choice for
adding system object display:
\d shows system stuff
Yech, that's awful. It looks ugly and it commandeers a punctuation
symbol that we might wish to use for something else
Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I talked to Greg via chat and it looks like '' is the best choice for
adding system object display:
\d shows system stuff
Yech, that's awful. It looks ugly and it commandeers a punctuation
symbol that we might wish to use
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
I thought the S suggestion was much better than this.
My problem is that it uses a letter as a modifier, while all other
letters are object specifications. '+' is a modifier. We need another
modifier that isn't a letter. No one knew
Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
I thought the S suggestion was much better than this.
My problem is that it uses a letter as a modifier, while all other
letters are object specifications. '+' is a modifier. We need another
modifier that
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ISTM one problem is we are inconsistent about it - \d and \dt don't
show system objects, but \df shows system functions. Reading TFM is a
good thing, but so is consistency.
Well, one of the subarguments here is whether we are going to change the
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 11:37:13AM -, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
To clarify the 'S' a bit more, here is the output from \? in my new patch:
Informational (S = show system objects)
\llist all databases (add + for more detail)
\d[S] list tables, views, and
Greg Sabino Mullane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
To clarify the 'S' a bit more, here is the output from \? in my new patch:
This looks nice perhaps do it for + as well?
Informational:
Modifiers
S Show system objects
+ Additional detail
\l[+] list all databases
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While you are it, why not make it
Informational
(S = show system objects)
(+ = show more detail about each object)
\l[+]list all databases
\d[S]list tables, views, and sequences
\d[S][+] NAME
Tom Lane wrote:
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ISTM one problem is we are inconsistent about it - \d and \dt don't
show system objects, but \df shows system functions. Reading TFM is a
good thing, but so is consistency.
Well, one of the subarguments here is whether we are
On Thursday 09 September 2004 21:30, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Tom Lane wrote:
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ISTM one problem is we are inconsistent about it - \d and \dt don't
show system objects, but \df shows system functions. Reading TFM is a
good thing, but so is
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Greg Stark wrote:
Well there's always \dtS and \dvS I don't see why typing \dfS is any harder.
It would be nice for this to be more visible in the documentation and the \?
output though. I've only just found it after months of pulling hair out
Robert Treat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OTOH I know that I sometimes use /df to look up built in functions that I
don't exactly remember, so keeping a way to access the system functions is
handy.
Given a third hand I'd look for some way to do both... perhaps \df can show
all functions
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1. Do we want to use quote_ident on object names? Ideally, column
names with a space in them, for example, should be surrounded by
double quotes.
Example of it failing? You mean like \d
Greg Sabino Mullane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This should be:
Table public.Upper Division
Column | Type | Modifiers
--+-+---
abc | integer |
spaced out| text|
real Name | text|
MixedCase | text|
I find
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I find this quite ugly, and don't think it's a good change. Anyone
who's fool enough to use trailing spaces in column names deserves the
pain it will cost them --- and there is no other case in which the
unquoted display is ambiguous.
I
On Sunday 29 August 2004 18:29, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
On the ordering issues, I'd go for straight alphabetical schema/name
sort in all cases; I thought that's where we were already, but if you
see some missing cases let's fix it. I'm not enamored of discriminating
against system
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I was looking through the code of psql and had a few questions:
1. Do we want to use quote_ident on object names? Ideally, column
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I was looking through the code of psql and had a few questions:
1. Do we want to use quote_ident on object names? Ideally, column
names with a space in them, for example, should be surrounded by
double quotes.
2. There is a disconnect between
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
3. I'd like to rearrange the ORDER BY on some objects to show
user-created objects before system ones. Currently, if I create
a new function and do a \df, I have to wade through all the
system functions in the pg_catalog schema before seeing
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