Re: [spam] Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-27 Thread Al Sutton
VS). Al. - Original Message - From: "scott.marlowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Al Sutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Hannu Krosing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "bpalmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, Novem

Re: [spam] Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-27 Thread scott.marlowe
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Al Sutton wrote: > Hannu, > > Using a Win32 platform will allow them to perform relative metrics. I'm not > looking for a statement saying things are x per cent faster than production, > I'm looking for reproducable evidence that an improvement offers y per cent > faster perf

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-27 Thread Al Sutton
ng up the extra machines my developers currently have. Al. - Original Message - From: "Shridhar Daithankar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources > On 27 Nov

Re: [spam] Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-27 Thread Al Sutton
ED]> To: "Al Sutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "scott.marlowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "bpalmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:54 AM Subject: [spam] Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources > On Wed, 200

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-27 Thread Hannu Krosing
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 08:21, Al Sutton wrote: > The problem I have with VMWare is that for the cost of a licence plus the > additional hardware on the box running it (CPU power, RAM, etc.) I can buy a > second cheap machine, using VMWare doesn't appear to save me my biggest > overheads of training

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-27 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On 27 Nov 2002 at 8:21, Al Sutton wrote: > The problem I have with VMWare is that for the cost of a licence plus the > additional hardware on the box running it (CPU power, RAM, etc.) I can buy a > second cheap machine, using VMWare doesn't appear to save me my biggest > overheads of training staf

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-27 Thread Al Sutton
n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources > On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, bpalmer wrote: > > > > > D'Arcy, > > > > > > > > In production the databas

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread scott.marlowe
On 27 Nov 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: > scott.marlowe kirjutas K, 27.11.2002 kell 01:40: > > On 27 Nov 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: > > > > > You could try out VMWare and run a linux virtual machine under Windows, > > > You could set it up once with all necessary servers and then copy the > > > files

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread scott.marlowe
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, bpalmer wrote: > > > D'Arcy, > > > > > > In production the database servers are seperate multi-processor machines > > > with mirrored disks linked via Gigabit ethernet to the app server. > > > > > > In development I have people extremely familiar with MS, but not very hot > >

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread Hannu Krosing
scott.marlowe kirjutas K, 27.11.2002 kell 01:40: > On 27 Nov 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: > > > You could try out VMWare and run a linux virtual machine under Windows, > > You could set it up once with all necessary servers and then copy the > > files to each new developers machine. > > > > VMWare i

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread scott.marlowe
On 27 Nov 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: > Al Sutton kirjutas T, 26.11.2002 kell 20:37: > > D'Arcy, > > > > In production the database servers are seperate multi-processor machines > > with mirrored disks linked via Gigabit ethernet to the app server. > > > > In development I have people extremely f

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread bpalmer
> > D'Arcy, > > > > In production the database servers are seperate multi-processor machines > > with mirrored disks linked via Gigabit ethernet to the app server. > > > > In development I have people extremely familiar with MS, but not very hot > > with Unix in any flavour, who are developing Java

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread Hannu Krosing
Al Sutton kirjutas T, 26.11.2002 kell 20:37: > D'Arcy, > > In production the database servers are seperate multi-processor machines > with mirrored disks linked via Gigabit ethernet to the app server. > > In development I have people extremely familiar with MS, but not very hot > with Unix in any

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Al Sutton wrote: > Lee, > > I wouldn't go for 7.4 in production until after it's gone gold, but being > able to cut the number of boxes per developer by giving them a Win32 native > version would save on everything from the overhead of getting the developers > familiar enough with Linux to be able

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread scott.marlowe
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Al Sutton wrote: > D'Arcy, > > In production the database servers are seperate multi-processor machines > with mirrored disks linked via Gigabit ethernet to the app server. > > In development I have people extremely familiar with MS, but not very hot > with Unix in any flavo

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread Al Sutton
t; To: "Al Sutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lee Kindness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources > On November 26, 2002 06:33 am, Al Sutton wrote: > > I

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On November 26, 2002 06:33 am, Al Sutton wrote: > I wouldn't go for 7.4 in production until after it's gone gold, but being > able to cut the number of boxes per developer by giving them a Win32 native > version would save on everything from the overhead of getting the > developers familiar enough

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread Al Sutton
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lee Kindness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources > Al, to be honest I don't think the Windows native would save hassle, > rather it&#

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread Lee Kindness
Al, to be honest I don't think the Windows native would save hassle, rather it'd probably cause more! No disrespect to those doing the version, read on for reasoning... Yes, you get a beta of a Windows native version just now, yes it probably will not be that long till the source is a available...

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources

2002-11-26 Thread Al Sutton
or me. Al. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Momjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ulrich Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32 sources > Ulrich Neumann wrote: >