Re: [HACKERS] Poster(s) needed

2002-05-17 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Not that I'm aware of anyone making ... On Fri, 17 May 2002, Michael Meskes wrote: > Hi, > > since we will show PostgreSQL related stuff on Linuxtag in Germany next > month, I'd like to get some PostgreSQL posters for the booth. But I have > no idea where to find some. > > Do we have that kind

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On 22 May 2002, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 10:51, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > What isn't funny is Oliver Elphick's results on Debian, running glibc 2.2.5 > > (same as Red Hat 7.3's version). > > This is a completely different version. Once Debian updates (in a few > years) they'll

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On 22 May 2002, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 11:23, Tom Lane wrote: > > > Unix systems have > > *always* interpreted time_t as a signed offset from the epoch. > > No. This always was an accident if it happens. > > > Do you > > really think that when Unixen were first built in th

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 23 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 22 May 2002, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 11:23, Tom Lane wrote: > > > > > > > Unix systems have > > > > *always* interpreted time_t as a signed offset from the epoch. > > > > > > No. This always was an accident if it h

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Michael Meskes wrote: > No, this is simply not true. The version number is what the upstream > gives its release. No more no less. What RH does is becoming as subtly > incompatible a possible. If that's the goal, it doesn't look like free > software for me. Sure all changes a

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-06-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
You might want to go to the archives and catch up on the whole thread and its digressions :) On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > mlw wrote: > > Like I told Marc, I don't care. You spec out what you want and I'll write it > > for Windows. > > > > That being said, a SysV IPC interface for

Re: [HACKERS] Use of /etc/services?

2002-06-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
FreeBSD On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > Since we now have an official entry in /etc/services, shouldn't we be able > > to make use of it, by using getservbyname() if a nonnumeric port number is > > specified? > > Is any OS actually shipping us in /etc/serv

Re: [HACKERS] Per tuple overhead, cmin, cmax, OID

2002-06-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > Manfred Koizar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > No comment on a planned 7.3 timeframe? :-( > > > > I think we are planning to go beta in late summer (end of August, say). > > Probably in July we'll start pressing people to finish up

Re: [HACKERS] Per tuple overhead, cmin, cmax, OID

2002-06-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > Tom Lane wrote: > > > > Manfred Koizar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > No comment on a planned 7.3 timeframe?

Re: [HACKERS] Per tuple overhead, cmin, cmax, OID

2002-06-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I will say that I was disapointed by previous release delays and will be > more vocal about moving things forward than I have in the past. I don't know ... I kinda like being able to confidently say to clients that "the latest release is always the most

Re: [HACKERS] Per tuple overhead, cmin, cmax, OID

2002-06-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Yes, but there is a downside to this. We have trouble enough figuring > out if a patch is a "feature" or "bug fix" during beta. How are people > going to decide if a feature is "big" or not to work on during August? > It has a paralyzing effect on our

Re: [HACKERS] Per tuple overhead, cmin, cmax, OID

2002-06-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > It is the idea were are supposed to go into beta with a bug-free release > that bother me. But its you that's always tried to advocate that ... no? If not, then I am confused, cause I know *I've* never ... to me, switching to beta mode has always been

Re: [HACKERS] Project scheduling issues (was Re: Per tuple overhead,

2002-06-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Now, I don't want to apply a partially-implemented feature in the last > > > week of August, but I don't want to slow things down during August, > > > because the last time we did this w

Re: [HACKERS] Project scheduling issues (was Re: Per tuple overhead,

2002-06-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I *really* wish ppl would stop harping on the length of the last beta > > cycle ... I will always rather delay a release due to an *known* > > outstanding bug, especi

Re: [HACKERS] Project scheduling issues (was Re: Per tuple overhead,

2002-06-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Agreed on all accounts ... which is why this time, I want to do a proper > > > branch when beta starts ... hell, from what I've see

Re: [HACKERS] Project scheduling issues (was Re: Per tuple overhead,

2002-06-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > There is a downside to changing away from that approach. Bruce > mentioned it but didn't really give it the prominence I think it > deserves: beta mode encourages developers to work on testing, debugging, > and oh yes documenting. Without that forced "non

Re: [HACKERS] Project scheduling issues (was Re: Per tuple overhead,

2002-06-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > 2. Once Branch created, any *partially implemented* features will get > >rip'd out of the -STABLE branch and only fixes to the existing, fully > >implement features will go in > > Now, that is an interesting idea. Ya, I thought it was when yo

Re: [HACKERS] Integrating libpqxx

2002-06-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Jeroen T. Vermeulen wrote: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:41:32PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > > > I'm thinking we should just import the current state of the files > > and not worry about preserving their change history. > > Fine with me, if that's easier. I just thought it mig

Re: [HACKERS] Integrating libpqxx

2002-06-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
got it ... will try and incorporate it and see what I can come up with ... thanks :) On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Jeroen T. Vermeulen wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 09:15:05AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > > > Jeroen ... can you send m

Re: [HACKERS] Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution

2002-06-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Jean-Michel POURE wrote: > As for current PostgreSQL organization, can someone explain me which W32 > port will make its way to PostgreSQL main source code? Whichever one actually submits patches for review first that is deemed acceptable for inclusion ... as its always been

First Win32 Contribution (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Democracy and organisation: let's make a revolution in)

2002-06-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Jan Wieck wrote: > > Jean-Michel POURE wrote: > > > [...] > > > As for current PostgreSQL organization, can someone explain me which W32 port > > > will make its way to PostgreSQL main source code? Can someone publish a > > > schedule for replication av

Re: [HACKERS] Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution

2002-06-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Jean-Michel POURE wrote: > Le Jeudi 20 Juin 2002 15:22, Tom Lane a écrit : > > BTW, we do already have a recognized leadership group: the core > > committee. The committee members mostly prefer to lead by example > > and by consensus, rather than trying to impose their will

Re: [HACKERS] Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution

2002-06-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On 20 Jun 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: > Nobody is "in charge", but everybody is welcome to do it, even without > being "elected" or "nominated ";) > > Still, having a "success stories" or "advocacy" section on > www.postgresq.org seems like a good idea. Being worked on ... we are actually working

Re: First Win32 Contribution (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Democracy and

2002-06-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Jon Franz wrote: > > It could be helpful to create a mailing list just for this project, > > since not all members of pg-hackers will/shall participate, and we > > would probably flood this list quite a bit trying to figure out what > > is the best way

Re: [HACKERS] Our archive searching stinks

2002-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > OK, I have finally decided that our archive searching stinks. I have > emails in my mailbox that don't appear in the archives. > > Our main site, http://archives.postgresql.org/ doesn't archive the > 'patches' list. (It isn't listed on the main site,

Re: [HACKERS] Our archive searching stinks

2002-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
damn, I wish ppl would bring stuff like this up earlier :( I've just gone through the configs, and think the problem(s) are fixed with this ... :( On 21 Jun 2002, Alessio Bragadini wrote: > On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 17:07, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > Can we find ou

[HACKERS] test 2, first failed ...

2002-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
ignore this one ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly

[HACKERS] one more ...

2002-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
to ignore ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] test 2, first failed ...

2002-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Okay, just did a series of upgrades to the server to hopefully speed up delivery a bit ... 6minutes more reasonable? let's see if it keeps up, mind you ... On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > ignore this one ... > > >

Re: [HACKERS] test 2, first failed ...

2002-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
yup, as well as Francisco's ... On 21 Jun 2002, Larry Rosenman wrote: > On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 22:06, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > Okay, just did a series of upgrades to the server to hopefully speed up > > delivery a bit ... 6minutes more reasonable? let's s

[HACKERS] Sporatic Server Downtime ...

2002-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Just a quick heads up ... I've asked Rackspace to investigate *why* the server crashes every 24-48hrs, and given them carte-blanche to get it fixed ... they are planning on swapping out/in hardware, as right now that appears to be where the error messages are indicating ... -

Re: [HACKERS] pgadmin.postgresql.org displaying errors

2002-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
should already be fixed ... On 23 Jun 2002, Dave Cramer wrote: > I am getting lots of errors on pgadmin.postgresql.org > > Dave > > > > > > ---(end of broadcast)--- > TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >

Re: [HACKERS] Our archive searching stinks

2002-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > Can we link to the fts site? > > The only thing I can help with is the fts link, but I'm hesitant to > link to something that disappears. If it's going to be here and not > go away again I'll be happy to add it. The only reason it "disappeared

Re: [HACKERS] Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution

2002-06-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Frankly, my feeling is, as a "geek-to-geek" product, PostgreSQL is already > > adequately marketed through our huge network of DBA users and code > > contributors. > > Well, mumble ... it seems to me that we are de

Re: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list

2002-06-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
will do it tonight :) On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > Rod Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Any chance of getting a pgsql-patches link on archives.postgresql.org? > > I know the archives are created (I use them) but there is no obvious > > link. > > > Secondly, could the links that

Re: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list

2002-06-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-patches added ... I've gotta redo that page, as it was just a 'quick-n-dirty' when I did it ... On 27 Jun 2002, Rod Taylor wrote: > > > Vince, we can get -advocacy listed on the web site? There has been no > > > traffic over there until now, but there are ppl subscribed to it ... > > > > all

Re: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list

2002-06-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
http://archives.postgresql.org/ ... better? On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > will do it tonight :) > > On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > > > Rod Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Any chance of getting a pgsql-patches link on archi

Re: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list

2002-06-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > http://archives.postgresql.org/ ... better? > > Yup, although I'd suggest making the classification line up with > the one on the main website --- docs and cygwi

Re: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list

2002-06-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On 27 Jun 2002, Rod Taylor wrote: > > > Also, someone suggested listing the by-month indexes back-to-front > > > (most recent month first), which seems like a great idea if not > > > difficult. > > > > Better? > > > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-jdbc > > > > The rest will 'fall in line'

Re: [HACKERS] Can't read archives anymore :-(

2002-06-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
shows up fine for me ... browser issue? :( is there a tag missing that you can pick out in view source? *raised eyebrow* On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > Marc, did you do anything to the format of the individual archive > message pages? The top index pages look great, but when I go to,

Re: [HACKERS] Support (was: Democracy and organisation)

2002-06-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Is this sort of like Oracle guaranteeing its uncrackable, but as soon as someone comes to them to prove it is, Oracle's response is "but DBA didn't enable the obscure security feature that can be found here, that is disabled by default?" On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Tim Hart wrote: > Could very well be

Re: [HACKERS] Are these groups "unauthorized"?

2002-06-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Friday 28 June 2002 10:46 am, Tom Lane wrote: > > Guido Ostkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am sure, a lot of people would be happy, if those groups were > > > officially introduced and hosted on many international newservers. > > > Yup. Are yo

Re: [HACKERS] Are these groups "unauthorized"?

2002-06-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Guido Ostkamp wrote: > Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Guido Ostkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I am sure, a lot of people would be happy, if those groups were > >> officially introduced and hosted on many international newservers. > > > > Yup. Are you voluntee

[HACKERS] ignor ethis ...

2002-07-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Re: [HACKERS] Should next release by 8.0 (Was: Re: [GENERAL] I am

2002-07-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Curt Sampson wrote: > > While there are big changes between 7.2 and the next release, they > aren't really any bigger than others during the 7.x series. I don't > really feel that the next release is worth an 8.0 rather than a 7.3. But > this is just an opinion; it's not somet

Re: [HACKERS] Should next release by 8.0 (Was: Re: [GENERAL] I am

2002-07-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Actually, the "big" change is such that will, at least as far as I'm > > understanding it, break pretty much every front-end applicaiton ... > > Only thos

Re: [HACKERS] Should next release by 8.0 (Was: Re: [GENERAL] I am

2002-07-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Thomas Lockhart wrote: > > Actually, the "big" change is such that will, at least as far as I'm > > understanding it, break pretty much every front-end applicaiton ... which, > > I'm guessing, is pretty major, no? :) > > I've always thought of our release numbering as having "

Re: [HACKERS] (A) native Windows port

2002-07-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > Andrew Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 12:39:13PM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > >> One other usability note: why can't postmaster perform the steps of > >> an initdb if -D points to an empty directory? > > > Rank newbies shouldn'

Re: [HACKERS] Unintegrated stuff in source tree

2002-07-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, jtv wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 11:20:47PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > Has the author been given CVS access yet? > > > > Yes, he has. I got him in touch with Marc. I was just pointing out > > that while he knows C++, he needs help getting the connecting stu

[HACKERS] Just added a second relay server ...

2002-07-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Just a test to make sure both are being used properly ... should help increase overall list speeds ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] I am being interviewed by OReilly

2002-07-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > > > How long did it take you to teach him to say PostgreSQL ? :) > > Lessee, the conversation went something like this: > > Me: I need a wav file of you saying "PostgreSQL". > > Him: "PostgreSQL"? > > Me: Y

Re: [HACKERS] Fwd: XPg: a new Java PostgreSQL Interface

2002-07-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Gustavo Gonzalez Giron wrote: > > Hello Dave... thank you for pay attention to our application. > > > Couple of questions? >Couple of answers! :) > > > 1) Why did you choose the GPL license, I expect it cannot be added to > > the postgres distribution with that license?

Re: [HACKERS] pgbash-2.4a.2 released

2002-07-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Best would be to get it added as a project on GBorg ... Chris is working on changes to GBorg to allow a project to be added to the site *without* it necessarily be 'hosted' there, so that projects like this, or PgAdmin, can be tracked through on central location, without limiting the developers t

[HACKERS] Password sub-process ...

2002-07-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Something to maybe add to the TODO list, if someone has the time/inclination to work on it ... The problem with the current auth system, as I see it, is that you can't easily have seperate user lists and passwords per database ... its shared across the system ... The closest you can get is to h

[HACKERS] disk space problem ...

2002-07-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
d'oh, always helps go rotate those damn logs ... auto-rotation now in place, shouldn't happen again for a good long time (had >6gig taken up in very very big log files *sigh*) ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands

Re: [HACKERS] Password sub-process ...

2002-07-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 12:43:52AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > since as soon as there are two 'bruce' users, only one can have a password > > I guess I don't understand why that's a problem. I mean, if

Re: [HACKERS] Virus Emails

2002-07-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier
God, I go through 200+ of those almost daily as moderator ... imagine if we had the lists open? :) On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > Hi guys, > > I seem to be getting virus emails that pretend to be one of your guys. eg. > I get them from T.Ishii and N.Conway, etc. Anyone

Re: [HACKERS] Password sub-process ...

2002-07-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > Something to maybe add to the TODO list, if someone has the > > time/inclination to work on it ... > > > > The problem with the current auth system, as I see it, is that you can't &

Re: [HACKERS] CVS server munted

2002-07-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
am looking at it now ... trying to figure out where we're using >30gig of space righ tnow :( On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > Hi guys, > > When I try to do a cvs up I get this: > can't create temporary directory /var/tmp/cvs-serv39998 > No space left on device > > And on th

Re: [HACKERS] Password sub-process ...

2002-07-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Actually, it is replaced by encrypted pg_shadow by default in 7.3, and > the new USER (users or groups) column in pg_hba.conf that will be in 7.3 > that can restrict based on user/group. This replaces the use of the > secondary file for just usernames.

Re: [HACKERS] Password sub-process ...

2002-07-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > First and foremost in my mind ... how do you have two users in the system > > with seperate passwords? ... > > since as soon as there are two 'bruce' us

Re: [HACKERS] Password sub-process ...

2002-07-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > First and foremost in my mind ... how do you have two users in the system > > > with seperate passwords? ... > > > since as so

Re: [HACKERS] Password sub-process ...

2002-07-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Tom Lane wrote: > > >> Uh, we've *never* supported "two bruce users" ... > > > > > He was being tricky by having different passwords for the same user on > > > each database, so one use

Re: [HACKERS] Password sub-process ...

2002-07-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > You seem to have done a nice job with the + and @ for 'maps' ... how about > > third on that states that the map file has a username:password pair in it? > > > > I do like how the pg_hba.

Re: [HACKERS] Virus Emails

2002-07-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
using the following: uvscan --analyse --recursive --mime --summary --program /var/spool/mail On 28 Jul 2002, Larry Rosenman wrote: > On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 20:10, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > God, I go through 200+ of those almost daily as moderator ... imagine if > > we had t

Re: [HACKERS] Virus Emails

2002-07-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
figured it out ... uvscan isn't looking where ports installed the newer .dat files ... fixed that and it finds 63 virii infected files instead of just 5 :) one step closer ... On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > Okay, am playing with this on one of my 'non

Re: [HACKERS] Virus Emails

2002-07-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Okay, this is sweet ... but can someone tell me where I 'Buy' a copy of uvscan? I've searched McAfee, but can't seem to find it in their eStore anywhere ... On 28 Jul 2002, Larry Rosenman wrote: > On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 20:10, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > &

Re: [HACKERS] Virus Emails

2002-07-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
their > site! > > Chris > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier > > Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2002 2:20 AM > > To: Larry Rosenman > > Cc: Christopher Kings-Lynne; [EMAIL PRO

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items

2002-07-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
add in 'fix pg_hba.conf / password issues' to that too :) On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Here are the open items for 7.3. We have one more month to address them > before beta. > > --- > >

Trim the Fat (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items )

2002-07-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > * libpqxx is not integrated into build process nor docs. It should > be integrated or reversed out before beta. I've requestsed that Jeorgen(sp?) move this over to GBorg ... its something that can, and should be, built seperately from the base distribution

Re: Trim the Fat (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items )

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:08:33PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > > > > One reason for wanting to integrate libpqxx is that I don't think we'll > > > find out anyth

Re: Trim the Fat (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items )

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Neil Conway wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:11:06AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > > > * libpqxx is not integrated into build process nor docs. It should > > > be integrated or reversed out before be

Re: Trim the Fat (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items )

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Conway) writes: > > Mentioning that on -hackers would have been nice -- I've spent a while > > this week hacking autoconf / Makefiles to integrate libpqxx... > > Marc's opinion is not the same thing as a done deal ;-) --- we still > h

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Neil Conway wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:01:43AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > add in 'fix pg_hba.conf / password issues' to that too :) > > I doubt that will make 7.3 -- the proposals I've seen on this topic > require some re

[HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Okay ... since this is pretty much going to be 'one camp for, one camp against' without anything to really back up either camps perspectives / arguments, I did some research on CVS in order to find a nice, effective middle ground ... and it actually works quite sweet ... Basically, CVS let's you

[HACKERS] Trimming the Fat: Getting code via CVSup ...

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
I've just updated the README.cvsup file in order to reflect the changes, to provide a sample of how to download the whole thing, as well as instructions on how to do "just" a particular module: [ Updated README.cvsup ]= # This file represents the s

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > OK, I have thought about this. First, a possible solution would be to > have a GUC variable that prepends the dbname to all username > specifications, so the username becomes dbname.username. When you > CREATE USER "test", it actually does CREATE USER

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > One idea I had was to look for a colon in the username, and if I see > one, I assume everything after the colon is a password. Would that work > for you? That would definitely work ... but I *really* like your GUC idea ... it would allow ppl to change

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Ron Snyder wrote: > > > > > > Yes, is that your pg_hba.conf line? 'password' is insecure over > > > networks you don't trust. > > > > Yes, we're using 'password password' in our pg_hba.conf file. I trust my > > network (so far). > > That is another ma

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > Okay ... since this is pretty much going to be 'one camp for, one camp > > against' without anything to really back up either camps perspectives / > > arguments, I did some research on CVS in order to find a nice, effective > > middle ground

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > Ron Snyder wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, is that your pg_hba.conf line? 'password' is insecure over >

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ron Snyder wrote:

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > I am working on it now. I decided against doing any kind of database > > > prepending at the user level. You create the user as 'dbname.username'. > > > That is clearer, rather

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > Access to nothing. I could actually try to quality by dbname.username, > > > then fall back to just username, but that seems insecure. > > > > No, that's cool ... just questio

Re: [HACKERS] -snapshot?

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
thanks for the heads up, fixed ... part of the generation code was flawed, in that it tried to move a directory that didn't exist, failed and exited the script *roll eyes* added in an 'if' to make sure the directory exists, and am running it manually now ... On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, bpalmer wrote:

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > > Access to nothing. I could actually try to quality by dbname.username, > > > > > th

Re: [HACKERS] Trim the Fat (Was: Re: Open 7.3 items )

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > Thomas Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Until we have folks who are excited enough about it to plan it out and > > do the work, piecemeal rejection of components is not leading to a more > > solid product. > > I'm lukewarm about whether to actually do

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat, Part Deux ...

2002-07-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Thomas Lockhart wrote: > ... > > *Eventually*, a simple checkout of 'pgsql' should result in a "server > > only" distribution that we can pull bits and pieces into transparently ... > > I'm still not quite sure where this is headed or why, but if nothing > else pgsql could an

[HACKERS] cvs checkout pgsql

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
... is once more 'normal' ... there are three modules right now setup: earthdistance libpqxx pgsql-server pgsql combines all three of the above to transparently give the equivalent of the whole distribution from its component parts ... ---(end of broadcast)-

Re: [HACKERS] Trim the Fat (Was: Re: Open 7.3 items )

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I realize that Marc wasn't proposing splitting off any > >> server-side code, but I still want to tread carefully about breaking > >> up the codebase. >

Re: [HACKERS] cvs checkout pgsql

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ... is once more 'normal' ... > > Uh, it's completely broken as far as I can tell. > > $ pwd > /home/postgres/pgsql/src/bin/pg_dump > $ cvs statu

Re: [HACKERS] cvs checkout pgsql

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > Rod Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Also, http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/ isn't working. > >> > >> What'r you typin about? It works fine. Ok, ok.. It does *NOW*. :) > > > Well, of course that specific URL doesn't work because it's

Re: [HACKERS] CVS server problem!

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Should be fixed now ... I found a rsync.core file, so it looks like the changes may have been more extensive then rsync could handle ... just ran it manually (or, rather, am running as I type this), so by the time you receive, a checkout should grab the right structures ... Let me know if it wor

Re: [HACKERS] Trimming the Fat: Getting code via CVSup ...

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
k properly, but right now, other then gettin gat the sub-modules themselves, CVSup is broken ... anon-cvs will fair you better ... On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Neil Conway wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 12:56:11AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > I've just updated the README.cvsup file

[HACKERS] Does this go out?

2002-08-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Just making sure that I haven't screwed up anything plugging in amavis ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] Does this go out?

2002-08-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
anti-virus software ... see http://www.amavis.org ... On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > got it... > > what's amivis ? > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier > &g

Re: [HACKERS] Trim the Fat (Was: Re: Open 7.3 items )

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > So, from the 'client side', y'all will still see "everything as one big > > package", while from the 'server side', I'll have the seperate modules > > taht can be

Re: [HACKERS] FUNC_MAX_ARGS benchmarks

2002-08-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 10:39:47AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > > > Actually, plpgsql is pretty expensive too. The thing to be benchmarking > > is applications of plain old built-in-C functions and operators. > > I thought part of the justification for

Re: [HACKERS] Open 7.3 items

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Dann Corbit wrote: > I have discussed the idea of contributing our Win32 work to the > PostgreSQL project with management. > > We have also converted all of the utilities (initdb, psql, pg_dump, > pg_restore, pg_id, pg_passwd, etc.) > > Management is (rightfully) concerned abo

Re: [HACKERS] Trim the Fat (Was: Re: Open 7.3 items )

2002-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > So, from the 'client side', y'all will still see "everything as one big > > >

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