Re: [Pharo-dev] No decompile string at all, bad idea?

2013-11-05 Thread Marcus Denker
On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:53, Max Leske wrote: > > On 06.11.2013, at 08:05, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On 05 Nov 2013, at 20:37, Mariano Martinez Peck >> wrote: >> >>> Hi. From what I understand you removed the old Compiler but yet Opal does >>> not support compiling. Also, #sourceCode was

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bug? AdditionalMethodState suddenly stores Associations

2013-11-05 Thread Max Leske
Thanks Marcus. I’ll open a bug report. On 06.11.2013, at 08:14, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 05 Nov 2013, at 19:48, Max Leske wrote: > >> I discovered that AdditionalMethodState now (sometimes) stores Associations, >> not only Pragmas and Messages. That seems to work fine so fare but leads to

Re: [Pharo-dev] No decompile string at all, bad idea?

2013-11-05 Thread Max Leske
On 06.11.2013, at 08:05, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 05 Nov 2013, at 20:37, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> Hi. From what I understand you removed the old Compiler but yet Opal does >> not support compiling. Also, #sourceCode was changed etc... >> That means that there is no way to see the

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 1c0119: 30548

2013-11-05 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 1c0119dc95105dd331ce47309c7422ebaff20562 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/1c0119dc95105dd331ce47309c7422ebaff20562 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2013-11-05 (Tue, 05 Nov 2013

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2013-11-05 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30548 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bug? AdditionalMethodState suddenly stores Associations

2013-11-05 Thread Marcus Denker
On 05 Nov 2013, at 19:48, Max Leske wrote: > I discovered that AdditionalMethodState now (sometimes) stores Associations, > not only Pragmas and Messages. That seems to work fine so fare but leads to > an exception if #analogousCodeTo: is sent to a state which stores an > Association. > I th

Re: [Pharo-dev] No decompile string at all, bad idea?

2013-11-05 Thread Marcus Denker
On 05 Nov 2013, at 20:37, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi. From what I understand you removed the old Compiler but yet Opal does not > support compiling. Also, #sourceCode was changed etc... > That means that there is no way to see the decompiled string of a method? Yes. > Which means I ca

Re: [Pharo-dev] Deep Into Pharo: PPExpressionParser

2013-11-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, PPExpressionParser is not meant to be subclassed. Read the class comment to see how to use it. PPCompositeParser is meant to be subclassed and it offers a neat mapping between methods and variables to support caching of parsers. Take a look at the subclasses in the Moose image: http://www.moo

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-11-04 until: 2013-11-17

2013-11-05 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 04/11/2013 9:42 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: - make use of SandstoneDb + Fuel storage Interesting. Can you share your reasons for choosing these technologies? Why not GemStone? MongoDB? Or, are you still experimenting?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Latest Xcode to Compile VM

2013-11-05 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Yes, no compiling during holidays! We don't want you burning out. In fact the no work of any kind... unless it's releasing Mars ;) but still better after holiday... Will you let me know after you've successfully compiled with latest Xcode so I can upgrade. Thanks. - Cheers, Sean -- View

Re: [Pharo-dev] Feature request poll

2013-11-05 Thread Paul DeBruicker
For whomever wonders what "what have the romans ever done for us" is about watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9foi342LXQE you can stop around 2:10 -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Feature-request-poll-tp4718993p4719475.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers ma

Re: [Pharo-dev] Feature request poll

2013-11-05 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:01 AM, GOUBIER Thierry wrote: > I find this debate interesting... but a bit strange > > For me, Smalltalk-80 is what is inside the 80's book, and no > implementation of Smalltalk was really Smalltalk-80 but something else > (some principles plus a huge amount of code)...

Re: [Pharo-dev] TextAttribute, TextAction and TextDoIt or TextURL: not working

2013-11-05 Thread p...@highoctane.be
,Ohhh I guess I'll restart work on that old 1.3-based project of mine :-) Well, well,this opens a lot of doors! (including doc comments with links inside them for clickable cross refs, like we had in squeak) Now, it is going to be used with Tx stuff ? Phil

[Pharo-dev] Deep Into Pharo: PPExpressionParser

2013-11-05 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
After reading the PetitParser chapter, I'm not clear when one would subclass PPCompositeParser vs. using PPExpressionParser. What are the tradeoffs / use cases? Also, can the book be improved or is that the final version? Thanks. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.

Re: [Pharo-dev] TextAttribute, TextAction and TextDoIt or TextURL: not working

2013-11-05 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
philippeback wrote > doing: > > ((Text withAll: 'foo') , (Text string: 'some link' attribute: (TextURL new > url:'http://philippeback.eu')) , (Text withAll: 'bar')) asMorph > openInWorld. > > gives me a nice purple 'some link' bit but clicking on it fails with > > MessageNotUnderstood: TextURL>>

[Pharo-dev] builds

2013-11-05 Thread Max Leske
I’ve temporarily disabled the Fuel builds. Martin and I discovered VM crashes related to (maybe) garbage collection during our test runs. So right now a lot of builds are crashing. We’ll keep investigating so as to reenable the builds. Max

[Pharo-dev] No decompile string at all, bad idea?

2013-11-05 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi. From what I understand you removed the old Compiler but yet Opal does not support compiling. Also, #sourceCode was changed etc... That means that there is no way to see the decompiled string of a method? Which means I cannot deploy and image without sources and then browse/debug/inspect/write p

Re: [Pharo-dev] Feature request poll

2013-11-05 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Goubier Thierry wrote > for me, Pharo will stay Pharo Smalltalk That's valid, and just what I was speaking to. For us Smalltalkers, the tiny sliver of people who understand the subtleties, Pharo (in its current form, who knows in a year!) is quite reasonably described as Smalltalk - an evolution o

[Pharo-dev] Bug? AdditionalMethodState suddenly stores Associations

2013-11-05 Thread Max Leske
I discovered that AdditionalMethodState now (sometimes) stores Associations, not only Pragmas and Messages. That seems to work fine so fare but leads to an exception if #analogousCodeTo: is sent to a state which stores an Association. Can someone please confirm that this is a bug? Cheers, Max

Re: [Pharo-dev] Feature request poll

2013-11-05 Thread GOUBIER Thierry
I find this debate interesting... but a bit strange For me, Smalltalk-80 is what is inside the 80's book, and no implementation of Smalltalk was really Smalltalk-80 but something else (some principles plus a huge amount of code)... Pharo is no more different from Smalltalk-80 than all the other

Re: [Pharo-dev] Feature request poll

2013-11-05 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Tudor Girba-2 wrote > Pharo is Pharo. And we should promote it like that. It is inherently confusing because originally "Smalltalk" meant "a language/environment that's continually reinvented every 4 years based on the knowledge gained by the last iteration". Then, Smalltalk-80 was frozen and rele

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pb team in Smalltalk hub?

2013-11-05 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Ok, thanks guy! Alexandre On Nov 5, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > REVEAL team is experiencing this too. > > On 05 Nov 2013, at 15:13, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Apparently I cannot add any new team member in the team of ObjectProfile. >> Am I the only one to experi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pb team in Smalltalk hub?

2013-11-05 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
REVEAL team is experiencing this too. On 05 Nov 2013, at 15:13, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > Apparently I cannot add any new team member in the team of ObjectProfile. > Am I the only one to experience this? When I click on add, the member is not > added. I've tried refreshing... > > Che

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pb team in Smalltalk hub?

2013-11-05 Thread Camillo Bruni
nope, that's a know bug which will be take care of. as for now, you can only add new contributors to repositories. On 2013-11-05, at 15:13, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > Apparently I cannot add any new team member in the team of ObjectProfile. > Am I the only one to experience this? When I

[Pharo-dev] Pb team in Smalltalk hub?

2013-11-05 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi!Apparently I cannot add any new team member in the team of ObjectProfile. Am I the only one to experience this? When I click on add, the member is not added. I've tried refreshing...Cheers,Alexandre-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu^~:;._,.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Writing jpeg files to disk

2013-11-05 Thread Usman Bhatti
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > I added you to the PharoInbox, could you commit again? > Thanx and done. > > On 2013-11-05, at 11:54, Usman Bhatti wrote: > > > Here is a slice the corrects the bug. > > I cannot commit to pharo inbox. > > > > Usman > > > > > > On Tue, Nov

Re: [Pharo-dev] Writing jpeg files to disk

2013-11-05 Thread Camillo Bruni
I added you to the PharoInbox, could you commit again? On 2013-11-05, at 11:54, Usman Bhatti wrote: > Here is a slice the corrects the bug. > I cannot commit to pharo inbox. > > Usman > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Usman Bhatti wrote: > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12073/Writing

Re: [Pharo-dev] 11920 NewValueHolder should use value instead of contents

2013-11-05 Thread Benjamin
On 05 Nov 2013, at 14:13, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2013-11-05, at 14:09, Benjamin > wrote: > >> On 05 Nov 2013, at 13:51, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >>> it shouldn't be an MC issue. >>> the integrator is configured in "merge accepting upcoming changes". >>> So if you integrate and acc

Re: [Pharo-dev] 11920 NewValueHolder should use value instead of contents

2013-11-05 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-11-05, at 14:09, Benjamin wrote: > On 05 Nov 2013, at 13:51, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> it shouldn't be an MC issue. >> the integrator is configured in "merge accepting upcoming changes". >> So if you integrate and accept without you picking the right version, when >> the automat

Re: [Pharo-dev] 11920 NewValueHolder should use value instead of contents

2013-11-05 Thread Benjamin
On 05 Nov 2013, at 13:51, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > it shouldn't be an MC issue. > the integrator is configured in "merge accepting upcoming changes". > So if you integrate and accept without you picking the right version, when > the automatic process run it blindly overrides the previous cha

Re: [Pharo-dev] 11920 NewValueHolder should use value instead of contents

2013-11-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
and btw... the whole RPackage + Announcements stuff should not prevent an MC code to be installed, just to be properly categorized, so I wouldn't check in that direction either, in case of an error. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > it shouldn't be an MC issue. > the in

Re: [Pharo-dev] 11920 NewValueHolder should use value instead of contents

2013-11-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
it shouldn't be an MC issue. the integrator is configured in "merge accepting upcoming changes". So if you integrate and accept without you picking the right version, when the automatic process run it blindly overrides the previous change. So I would call it "a human mistake", before an MC one. u

Re: [Pharo-dev] Latest Xcode to Compile VM

2013-11-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I still didn't tried with the latest xcode, but I tried the immediate previous and there is no problem at all. I don't see why it shouldn't work with mavericks :) I will do it as soon as I'm back from holidays (because if I do it now, they wouldn't be holidays ;) Esteban On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at

Re: [Pharo-dev] 11920 NewValueHolder should use value instead of contents

2013-11-05 Thread Nicolas Cellier
That was my impression too. But the interaction with RPackage Annoucement etc.. makes it hard to isolate. I suspect these layers, because I use MC everyday in Squeak where it's much more robust. That means that tests are not currently sufficient and we should focus on this (MC used to have a fairly

Re: [Pharo-dev] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

2013-11-05 Thread Mark Bestley
Damien Cassou wrote: > Hi, > > I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try it > and report problems: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/16/ar > tifact/pharo-build/Pharo%203.0.0.dmg > > Best, On Mavericks on a 2013 Mac Mini. I cop

Re: [Pharo-dev] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

2013-11-05 Thread Norbert Hartl
Wow! That is really great and it works like with an other application. Awesome! Norbert Am 05.11.2013 um 11:18 schrieb Damien Cassou : > Hi, > > I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try > it and report problems: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Writing jpeg files to disk

2013-11-05 Thread Usman Bhatti
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12073/Writing-jpeg-files-to-disk On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Usman Bhatti wrote: > Hello, > > Due to the changes in Pharo 3.0, I cannot write jpeg files on the disk. > This happens because when writing a jpeg file, we delete any precedent > version of the f

[Pharo-dev] Writing jpeg files to disk

2013-11-05 Thread Usman Bhatti
Hello, Due to the changes in Pharo 3.0, I cannot write jpeg files on the disk. This happens because when writing a jpeg file, we delete any precedent version of the file to be exported. However, now DiskStore>>delete: throws an exception when the file to be deleted is not present delete: path | p

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bringing external documentation internally , Deep Into Pharo , PBE

2013-11-05 Thread kilon alios
Neither, I am using the existing Help Browser which I extend with my own class called Prometheas. Currently it fixes only the refresh button problem but in the future I will completely redesign it cause it is part of my larger project Ephestos that will bring a new GUI API (using Athens) and I will

[Pharo-dev] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

2013-11-05 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi, I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try it and report problems: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/16/artifact/pharo-build/Pharo%203.0.0.dmg Best, -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability

Re: [Pharo-dev] 11920 NewValueHolder should use value instead of contents

2013-11-05 Thread Camillo Bruni
So there must be some serious MC issue. On 2013-11-05, at 11:15, Benjamin wrote: > Indeed, it seems to not be in the system. > > Most probably because afterward another spec related issue has been > integrated, > and that the diff were not properly detected. > (Already happened) > > Ben > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] 11920 NewValueHolder should use value instead of contents

2013-11-05 Thread Benjamin
Indeed, it seems to not be in the system. Most probably because afterward another spec related issue has been integrated, and that the diff were not properly detected. (Already happened) Ben On 04 Nov 2013, at 23:06, Benjamin wrote: > I will tomorrow :) > > Ben > > On 04 Nov 2013, at 13:22,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bringing external documentation internally , Deep Into Pharo , PBE

2013-11-05 Thread Clément Bera
How do you want to bring it ? With class comments, method with comment only ? I guess it is not a problem as long as it does not take too much memory (I mean as long as it is not a Mb). 2013/11/5 kilon alios > Is this a problem ? I want to bring external documentation inside the > Pharo image,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bringing external documentation internally , Deep Into Pharo , PBE

2013-11-05 Thread Alexandre Bergel
No permission at all. You just have to give credit to the authors, nothing more nothing less Cheers, Alexandre > On 5 Nov 2013, at 06:16, kilon alios wrote: > > Is this a problem ? I want to bring external documentation inside the Pharo > image, and I was wondering if I need permission and s

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 4d50f3: 30547

2013-11-05 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 4d50f3e44e78355b74d43f8c80b7286222ca7b74 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/4d50f3e44e78355b74d43f8c80b7286222ca7b74 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2013-11-05 (Tue, 05 Nov 2013

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2013-11-05 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30547 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] Bringing external documentation internally , Deep Into Pharo , PBE

2013-11-05 Thread kilon alios
Is this a problem ? I want to bring external documentation inside the Pharo image, and I was wondering if I need permission and such. I will be editing also some documentation to make it easier to read and more current. I am already working on Nativeboost documentation.

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-11-04 until: 2013-11-17

2013-11-05 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 05 Nov 2013, at 06:04, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > I am glad you are considering other types of fonts :). Still, I think that > Open Sans does not work well with Source Code. First, there is not enough > distinction between them, and second, their rhythms do not match (both in > terms of