On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 02:53:07PM +0200, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Mon, 4 Aug
2014, Frank Shearar wrote: >
> >On 4 August 2014 09:38, Cl??ment Bera wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>2014-08-04 10:17 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk :
> >>>
> >>>Hi guys,
> >>>
> >>>I have a script that runs very slow and does a
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5919172/gpgpu-vs-multicore
The answer is really nice.. over GPU/ multithreaded CPU et als. GPU is not
a panacea for enterprise programming, but for specific parallel
unbranched-no synchronization driven algorithms
* The worst code for GPU is code with less paral
stepharo wrote
> you could also provide code :)
Nicolai beat me to it :)
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13770#BugEvent.106854
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Benjamin - I feel your pain. I went through the same thing - and I did try to
help things by updating some of the information on the FogBugz wiki (which I
think you found - at least the video).
I know I hit a bunch of 404 errors too - which I corrected, but I can see
that you hit a few more - so I
On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:51 PM, stepharo wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> I'm sure that most of you did not realize it, but Pharo does not magically
> improve. It improves because some of us are looking
> at the tracker issues and looking at the code and improving it.
>
> Since Pharo is yours I wonder why you
2014-08-04 22:37 GMT+02:00 kilon alios :
> I can tell you why. Because its rarely is simple for people not familiar
> with Pharo like me.
>
> I once tried to help Damien with PharoLauncher. I added the progress bars
> you get when you download a new image it was simple as pie. Then Damien
> recomm
Writing all kinds of documentation, inside and outside the image is a very
important and much appreciated contribution.
On 04 Aug 2014, at 22:37, kilon alios wrote:
> I can tell you why. Because its rarely is simple for people not familiar with
> Pharo like me.
>
> I once tried to help Damie
Thanks
you could also provide code :)
Stef
On 4/8/14 23:04, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
stepharo wrote
add an entry and assign to camille.
Done https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13770
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> add an entry and assign to camille.
Done https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13770
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I can tell you why. Because its rarely is simple for people not familiar
with Pharo like me.
I once tried to help Damien with PharoLauncher. I added the progress bars
you get when you download a new image it was simple as pie. Then Damien
recommended for me to try to add support to PharoLauncher f
yes temp fixes this. Strange bug . I also see it works with class
variables, so it not as a big problem as I feared, thanks Stef :)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:33 PM, stepharo wrote:
> you should add temp declaration.
>
> Apparently this is needed now. At least I got the same error and just
> ad
Ha, the Workspace stores variables in a Dictionary, which contains
Associations instead of the new global variable objects!
Maybe we need to introduce a new kind of collection containing the new
Global variables or something like that? (okok, a global variable is not
exactly what you have in a wor
sean
add an entry and assign to camille.
We got confused with igor and it took us a while to find.
I think that the implementation in Analyse was not necessary. (so
probably having 2 and 3 is ok) even if I never saw the difference.
Stef
On 4/8/14 15:08, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
GitHub wrote
Hi guys
I'm sure that most of you did not realize it, but Pharo does not
magically improve. It improves because some of us are looking
at the tracker issues and looking at the code and improving it.
Since Pharo is yours I wonder why you do not take the time to improve.
In fact, this is the ke
you should add temp declaration.
Apparently this is needed now. At least I got the same error and just
adding temps fixed it.
Stef
On 4/8/14 21:13, kilon alios wrote:
when I do this
thiproc := OSProcess thisOSProcess .
I get this
Association(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #emitStore:
OCLiter
On 4/8/14 19:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi Yuriy,
My advice is to use OpenCL. OpenCL is a standard to use the graphical card to
carry out massive computation.
The good news is that Ronie has worked on a binding between OpenCL and Pharo. I
am using it and it works pretty well.
http://smalltal
On 4/8/14 21:06, Sean DeNigris wrote:
When SimpleMorphic was released, the problem was that we didn’t know how to
integrate it into our existing Morphic. Also, the problem with starting with
CUIS’s Morphic was IIRC that it didn’t properly handle internationalization.
Now that we’re heading t
Thanks, I know about this, The problem is exactly that I’m wrapping
whole hierarchies in my own objects because I need that. Anyway thank you!
explain us what you are doing because sometimes we know tricks :).
I think that often people that forking can solve speed but you have to
introduce
when I do this
thiproc := OSProcess thisOSProcess .
I get this
Association(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #emitStore:
OCLiteralVariable>>emitStore:
OCASTTranslatorForValue(OCASTTranslator)>>visitAssignmentNode:
RBAssignmentNode>>acceptVisitor:
OCASTTranslatorForValue(RBProgramNodeVisitor)>>visitNod
When SimpleMorphic was released, the problem was that we didn’t know how to
integrate it into our existing Morphic. Also, the problem with starting with
CUIS’s Morphic was IIRC that it didn’t properly handle internationalization.
Now that we’re heading toward a total replacement anyway, why sta
Hi
Do you try TaskIt framework? It has BlockClosure>>forkIt which
transparently executes code in separate image.
2014-08-04 12:17 GMT+04:00 Yuriy Tymchuk :
> Hi guys,
>
> I have a script that runs very slow and does a lot of non dependent
> operation of a collection. I wander if I can speed it
Hi Yuriy,
My advice is to use OpenCL. OpenCL is a standard to use the graphical card to
carry out massive computation.
The good news is that Ronie has worked on a binding between OpenCL and Pharo. I
am using it and it works pretty well.
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/OpenCL
Cheers,
Alexan
yes thats correct. I am using python threads , (they are green threads too
like pharo) to make my blocking socket not block the overall execution of
code.
Dont need fork on the pharo side because I send the message and I expect an
immediate reply so the blocking is too short for the user to notice
Interesting. I tried going the other way (on the same issue) and looking
at the read only view from Penelope. Once there, I have no idea where to
go. Maybe find the package Rectangle is part of and try digging down there?
Hmm, nope. Either wrong guess, or now that 2489 is closed, it isn't on
P
So I have started using gitfiletree and the first commit seems to commit
only .filetree file and not my package folder. I had to add the package
folder with a "git add" and of course make a commit of it .Is this normal ?
the process I have followed is this
1) Create a github repo intialized with
Wait, if your computations make use of I/O, wouldn't *forking* allow to
take advantage when a green thread is blocked for example, writing a
socket? :)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Frank Shearar wrote:
>
> On 4 August 2014 09:38, Clément Bera wro
GitHub wrote
> 13729 3 menu item to generate inst var accessors
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13729
I left a comment in the issue, but maybe no one is checking there since it's
closed...
>From the original comment:
There is currently 3 menu items to generate iv accessors:
Analyse
Hum it works for me in the latest Pharo (40152).
Perhaps it is related to the last but one build that crashed because
Smalltalkhub was not responding.
Please retry in the last Pharo image.
2014-08-04 14:45 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano :
> it does not appear in the inspector options, when inspec
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Frank Shearar wrote:
On 4 August 2014 09:38, Clément Bera wrote:
2014-08-04 10:17 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk :
Hi guys,
I have a script that runs very slow and does a lot of non dependent
operation of a collection. I wander if I can speed it up by making it run in
anothe
it does not appear in the inspector options, when inspecting an Array or an
OrderedCollection.
any clue?
Esteban
I don't like it.
First its not suitable for my project since my project contains python
files as well. Second get 30 mbs image so you can get an additional few kbs
sounds like an overkill. Forth what happens to the image you work already ?
what if it contains code you want to keep ? send the user
I had jenkins job doing that :)
But sadly, my server is now sleeping in a box since I moved out :)
Ben
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:53, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
> I’m follower of "new day – new image” way :)
>
> Uko
>
> On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:48, kilon alios wrote:
>
>> Well lately I have been question
I’m follower of "new day – new image” way :)
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:48, kilon alios wrote:
> Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am
> considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for the
> latest release of my project , download it, u
Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am
considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for
the latest release of my project , download it, unzip it and point pharo to
the unziped directory. Then pharo can periodocally keep probing github to
see i
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:21, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>
> On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:16, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
>
>>
>> On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:09, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>>
>>> something is going bad with smalltalkhub, it is working in *really* slow
>>> motion, with a lot of packet loss, etc.
>>
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios wrote:
> yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active
> with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far
> is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version
> of my pro
You don’t have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it
http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo.html)
on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone want’s
to modify your project they have to use git, but as far a
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:16, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
>
> On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:09, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>
>> something is going bad with smalltalkhub, it is working in *really* slow
>> motion, with a lot of packet loss, etc.
>
> I think it just misses Nico badly :).
:)
>
>> I’m trying to f
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active
with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so
far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest
version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:09, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> something is going bad with smalltalkhub, it is working in *really* slow
> motion, with a lot of packet loss, etc.
I think it just misses Nico badly :).
> I’m trying to figure out what is happening, but not sure how much time it
> will tak
something is going bad with smalltalkhub, it is working in *really* slow
motion, with a lot of packet loss, etc.
I’m trying to figure out what is happening, but not sure how much time it will
take.
I’m sorry for the inconveniences :P
Esteban
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:03, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
> W
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have
configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway it’s a
strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my
configurations? Because that’s the only thing I version with monticello are
configu
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my
> SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects
> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of th
threads generally slow things down. Pharo uses green threads so it does not
take advantage of multiple cores. You can take advantage of multiple cores
by having multiple instances of the Pharo executable running and have them
communicate via sockets, pipes , shared memory etc. Some calculations /
p
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:38, Clément Bera wrote:
>
>
>
> 2014-08-04 10:17 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk :
> Hi guys,
>
> I have a script that runs very slow and does a lot of non dependent operation
> of a collection. I wander if I can speed it up by making it run in another
> process, because as f
Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub
user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I
had a bunch of them).
Uko
On 4 August 2014 09:38, Clément Bera wrote:
>
>
>
> 2014-08-04 10:17 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk :
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I have a script that runs very slow and does a lot of non dependent
>> operation of a collection. I wander if I can speed it up by making it run in
>> another process, because as far
2014-08-04 10:17 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk :
> Hi guys,
>
> I have a script that runs very slow and does a lot of non dependent
> operation of a collection. I wander if I can speed it up by making it run
> in another process, because as far as I understand everything runs on a
> single thread, so I
Ok so I added the missing exception and we can use the system again
but the fix is just a patch.
I will try to get some time this week to fix it but this is in character
scanner..
stringIndex: anInteger text: aText topLeft: topLeft extent: extent
stringIndex := anInteger.
text
Hi guys,
I have a script that runs very slow and does a lot of non dependent operation
of a collection. I wander if I can speed it up by making it run in another
process, because as far as I understand everything runs on a single thread, so
I guess this won’t save me.
Uko
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Author: Jenkins Build Server
Date: 2014-08-04 (Mon, 04 Aug 2014
2014-08-04 9:57 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen :
>
> On 04 Aug 2014, at 9:31 , Nicolai Hess wrote:
>
> 2014-08-04 8:50 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen :
>
>>
>> On 03 Aug 2014, at 5:55 , Clément Bera wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Right, current hash is bad and long to compute.
>> >
>> > I think we should use in
On 04 Aug 2014, at 9:31 , Nicolai Hess wrote:
> 2014-08-04 8:50 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen :
>
> On 03 Aug 2014, at 5:55 , Clément Bera wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Right, current hash is bad and long to compute.
> >
> > I think we should use instead
> > BasicIndexedEyeElement >> hash
> > ^ inde
So apparently if I introduce the missing exception (that we should have
removed) the system works.
I will try to do a new integration and after we will fix the problem
with igor.
If I cannot integrate them I will see tomorrow with esteban.
Stef
Thanks this is strange because we used the modified system.
I see some problems with MC and changes tracking recently and this is
annoying.
Because this reference should not be there.
Now I do not know how to rollback a change so the system will stay
broken until I find and I do not have the t
2014-08-04 8:50 GMT+02:00 Henrik Johansen :
>
> On 03 Aug 2014, at 5:55 , Clément Bera wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Right, current hash is bad and long to compute.
> >
> > I think we should use instead
> > BasicIndexedEyeElement >> hash
> > ^ index hashMultiply
> >
> > host identityHash and index h
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