Re: [Pharo-dev] Question on Package comments [SO]

I agree with Kilon. May be he is true about a lack of a package/class reference documentation/system like in java or dotnet but I find the question a little biased and SO policy is right on that : "questions to find (...) tools, libraries (...) are off-topic, they tend to attract opinionated

Re: [Pharo-dev] Question on Package comments [SO]

Nicolai Hess wrote >> I disagree and I downvoted the question because its clear he did not even >> bother to google for documentation. > He asked: "Does there exist any comprehensive reference for what each one > [Package] is" > The answer is "no". How can he found this out without asking? I have

Re: [Pharo-dev] Question on Package comments [SO]

2014-10-18 0:38 GMT+02:00 kilon alios : > I disagree and I downvoted the question because its clear he did not even > bother to google for documentation. > He asked: "Does there exist any comprehensive reference for what each one [Package] is" The answer is "no". How can he found this out without

Re: [Pharo-dev] Question on Package comments [SO]

I disagree and I downvoted the question because its clear he did not even bother to google for documentation. Maybe he forgot or maybe he meants something else than it is already available. I am mostly against SO strict policy but in this case I will have to agree with it, the question is too vagu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Question on Package comments [SO]

2014-10-17 23:43 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > Nicolai Hess wrote > > It is a valid question > > I agree. And at the same time, after reading their reasoning, while > seemingly overzealous, their decision seems logically sound based on SO > rules. I added this comment: > > I think that the cl

Re: [Pharo-dev] Question on Package comments [SO]

Nicolai Hess wrote > It is a valid question I agree. And at the same time, after reading their reasoning, while seemingly overzealous, their decision seems logically sound based on SO rules. I added this comment: I think that the closest you have is ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Phar

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

Ben Coman wrote > Richard Sargent wrote: >> Eliot Miranda-2 wrote >>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Richard Sargent < >> >>> richard.sargent@ >> wrote: One of the best things about Smalltalk is how easily we can say what we mean. I think you would be better off creating a metho

[Pharo-dev] TLS SNI[1] for SqueakSSL on unix

Might be interesting for some of you. Hi, I've implemented support for TLS SNI[1] for SqueakSSL on unix. I've uploaded the modified source files[2][3], a diff[4], and a prebuilt module[5] (built on Ubuntu 14.04 from the Cog branch). The image side code is also available[6], along with an upd

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

I love this item list :) After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the future. The new features are: - phratch is more modular, eg having a kernel and lots of addons. - cleaning a lot the source code - customizable environment - e

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New Gold Member LabWare

Indeed it is. AFAIR Andres Valloud works there. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2014-10-17 12:36 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > This is excellent news. > > On 15 Oct 2014, at 14:00, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> The Pharo Consortium is very happy to announce that LabWare has joined the >> Cons

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New Gold Member LabWare

This is excellent news. On 15 Oct 2014, at 14:00, Marcus Denker wrote: > The Pharo Consortium is very happy to announce that LabWare has joined the > Consortium as a Gold Industrial Member. > > About LabWare: > "LabWare is recognized as the global leader in providing enterprise scale > labor

[Pharo-dev] Question on Package comments [SO]

There was a question on SO about documentations for Packages: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26292060/is-there-any-pharo-package-reference-documentation I don't have enough reputation for adding comments in SO, therefore, I ask the questions here: The question is closed and I don't understand

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

I have updated the ISO - Changed the disk setup - now it is more safe - it finds first disk without a partition table and use it for persistance. If no such disk found ISO works from memory. - Added PharoLaucher as a default Image - Added sqlite3 driver (not test yet though) - Made Pharo run by ro

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

> On 17.10.2014, at 16:41, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > Hi Max, > > On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Max Leske > wrote: > >> >>> On 17.10.2014, at 15:52, Nicolas Cellier >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2014-10-17 15:49 GMT+02:

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

Hi Max, On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Max Leske wrote: > >> On 17.10.2014, at 15:52, Nicolas Cellier >> wrote: >> >> >> >> 2014-10-17 15:49 GMT+02:00 Max Leske : >>> On 17.10.2014, at 15:25, Eliot Miranda wrote: Hi Max, On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Max Leske w

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

Hi Max, On Oct 17, 2014, at 6:49 AM, Max Leske wrote: > >> On 17.10.2014, at 15:25, Eliot Miranda wrote: >> >> Hi Max, >> >> On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Max Leske wrote: >> >>> On 17.10.2014, at 02:46, Ben Coman wrote: Richard Sargent wrote: > Eliot Miranda-2 wrote

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

> On 17.10.2014, at 15:52, Nicolas Cellier > wrote: > > > > 2014-10-17 15:49 GMT+02:00 Max Leske >: > >> On 17.10.2014, at 15:25, Eliot Miranda > > wrote: >> >> Hi Max, >> >> On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Max Leske >

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

2014-10-17 15:49 GMT+02:00 Max Leske : > > On 17.10.2014, at 15:25, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > Hi Max, > > On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Max Leske wrote: > > > On 17.10.2014, at 02:46, Ben Coman wrote: > > Richard Sargent wrote: > > Eliot Miranda-2 wrote > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Rich

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

> On 17.10.2014, at 15:25, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > Hi Max, > > On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Max Leske > wrote: > >> >>> On 17.10.2014, at 02:46, Ben Coman >> > wrote: >>> >>> Richard Sargent wrote: Eliot Miranda-2 wrote > On

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

Hi Max, On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Max Leske wrote: > >> On 17.10.2014, at 02:46, Ben Coman wrote: >> >> Richard Sargent wrote: >>> Eliot Miranda-2 wrote On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Richard Sargent < richard.sargent@ > wrote: > One of the best things about Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] New Spur trunk image available

Hi Levente, On Oct 17, 2014, at 5:40 AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Eliot Miranda wrote: > >> Hi All, >> finally the Spur Squeak trunk image is updateable. The image in >> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/SpurImages/2014-10-16/ was created >> today and thanks to Be

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] cd6a30: 40310

--  Marcus Denker Sent with Airmail On 17 Oct 2014 at 12:46:28, Esteban Lorenzano (esteba...@gmail.com) wrote: that i don’t know.  the change is already there or the slice is actually empty.  nothing to do with the app, in that case :) But I checked: the Slices did show me content when I revie

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mysteries of the compiler

--  Marcus Denker Sent with Airmail On 17 Oct 2014 at 12:46:20, Nicolai Hess (nicolaih...@web.de) wrote: I ran some testcases with your changes and I expect some test are failing now, but actually they don't fail but others do. Yes, but I think these tests are wrong.  (needs to be carefully c

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

Excellent work. Thank you. On 17 Oct 2014, at 11:48, jannik laval wrote: > Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! > > Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. > > After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, phratch > 4.0 is released to prepare the fu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mysteries of the compiler

I ran some testcases with your changes and I expect some test are failing now, but actually they don't fail but others do. 2014-10-16 22:06 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess : > 2014-10-16 17:40 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker : > >> >> >> >> While in the write we need to mark: >> >> >> >> lookupVariableForWrite

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] cd6a30: 40310

that i don’t know. the change is already there or the slice is actually empty. nothing to do with the app, in that case :) Esteban > On 17 Oct 2014, at 12:28, Marcus Denker wrote: > > >> On 17 Oct 2014, at 12:21, Esteban Lorenzano > > wrote: >> >> that means most

Re: [Pharo-dev] Context variables?

Bear in mind that if you do any fancy stack slicing, you will get... *unexpected* behaviour from DynamicVariable. (See http://www.lshift.net/blog/2012/06/27/resumable-exceptions-can-macro-express-delimited-dynamic-variables/ and follow-on links.) frank On 15 October 2014 16:34, Camille Teruel wr

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] cd6a30: 40310

> On 17 Oct 2014, at 12:21, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > that means most probably a merge conflict (still not handled by new > integrator app). > Sorry, I will fix it soon :) > But I wonder why when I merge the not-integrated slices, it claims that there is no change? > Esteban > >> On 1

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] cd6a30: 40310

that means most probably a merge conflict (still not handled by new integrator app). Sorry, I will fix it soon :) Esteban > On 17 Oct 2014, at 12:19, Marcus Denker wrote: > > We will have to revert this. > > -> the changes are not there > -> yet when I merge the Slice it claims there are no

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] cd6a30: 40310

We will have to revert this. -> the changes are not there -> yet when I merge the Slice it claims there are no changes. -> So we have to revert. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:56 AM, GitHub wrote: > Branch: refs/heads/4.0 > Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core > Commit: cd6a303

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

--  Marcus Denker Sent with Airmail On 17 Oct 2014 at 11:45:23, Max Leske (maxle...@gmail.com) wrote: > On 17.10.2014, at 11:39, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > On 17 Oct 2014, at 11:12, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Exactly. So, the problem with Set is not in hash at all, but in equal

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

This is a great addition to the Pharo ecosystem. Thank you very much! Doru On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:48 AM, jannik laval wrote: > Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! > > Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. > > After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

Branch: refs/tags/40310 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] cd6a30: 40310

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: cd6a3036bde6d73d3e2502aca8caacaac75dc1db https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/cd6a3036bde6d73d3e2502aca8caacaac75dc1db Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-10-17 (Fri, 17 Oct 2014

[Pharo-dev] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the future. The new features are: - phratch is more modular, eg having a kernel and lots of a

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

Here's the image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzSsmZhqtUTeaURYRnA0eHgycXM/view?usp=sharing 2014-10-17 11:47 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek : > Hi, > > do you plan to develop it as a plugin? When I played with TinyCore > Linux and Pharo (using framebuffer), I directly applied required the > plugins

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

If SqueakNOS wil continued and moved to Pharo this name (PharoNOS) should be free. Maybe this project should be renamed? PharoLinux? Anyway great job. I remember many yeas ago squeak had similar project by some japanese guy 2014-10-17 12:39 GMT+04:00 Rafael Luque : > Then, PharoNOS does not mean

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

Hi, do you plan to develop it as a plugin? When I played with TinyCore Linux and Pharo (using framebuffer), I directly applied required the plugins on the filesystem. -- Pavel 2014-10-17 11:09 GMT+02:00 Torsten Bergmann : > Hi Mike, > > tried to swap the image using the following procedure: > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

> On 17.10.2014, at 11:39, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > On 17 Oct 2014, at 11:12, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Exactly. So, the problem with Set is not in hash at all, but in equality. Of >> course, we can still enhance hash, but we should first focus on equality. >> >> And I am also of th

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

> On 17.10.2014, at 11:12, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Exactly. So, the problem with Set is not in hash at all, but in equality. Of > course, we can still enhance hash, but we should first focus on equality. > > And I am also of the opinion that equality should take the name of the > selector and

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

On 17 Oct 2014, at 11:12, Tudor Girba wrote: > Exactly. So, the problem with Set is not in hash at all, but in equality. Of > course, we can still enhance hash, but we should first focus on equality. > > And I am also of the opinion that equality should take the name of the > selector and eve

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

Exactly. So, the problem with Set is not in hash at all, but in equality. Of course, we can still enhance hash, but we should first focus on equality. And I am also of the opinion that equality should take the name of the selector and even the name of the class into account. Doru On Fri, Oct 17,

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

Hi Mike, tried to swap the image using the following procedure: 1. Run the following code to download latest Pharo 4.0 ZnClient new url: 'http://files.pharo.org/image/40/latest.zip'; downloadTo: '/mnt/universe/pharo-image/latest.zip'. ZipArchive extractAllIn: '/mnt/universe

Re: [Pharo-dev] OrderedDictionary and new tools, Seaside...

On 16 Oct 2014, at 15:01, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >> On 16 Oct 2014, at 14:55, p...@highoctane.be wrote: >> >> I am using OrderedDictionary in quite a few places. >> >> Now, I have to steam a lot of extra methods from Dictionary as the >> GTInspector doesn't display things properly, nor the

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

Then, PharoNOS does not mean No Operating System, but minimun operating system? A few days ago I answered in this list about Smalltalk-based unikernels, similar to Mirage OS (http://www.openmirage.org/). Do you think PharoNOS can evolve into this kind of tool? 2014-10-17 10:28 GMT+02:00 kilon

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

I see, I dont have experience with TinyCore linux, but I do have experience with puppy linux which I really liked and used several times on my older pcs. Interest concept , good work :) Actually puppy linux is similar to what you do, in the sense that it uses its own programming language , genie

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

Yes, the idea of PharoNOS is to have the Smalltalk-only environment with as little external stuff as possible. Current PharoNOS implementation based on TinyCore Linux - the smallest Linux distro - in order to have the smallest possible system footprint. >Why not just download a small linux distro

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 3:47 AM, mikefilonov wrote: > Hm, just now get the idea to run Image chooser if > default image failed. Is it available on linux? > you have the pharo launcher that let's you download images from the web (be it on jenkins, on files.pharo.org, or on your own server) --

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

> On 17.10.2014, at 09:37, Tudor Girba wrote: > > But why is Set being affected by hash? Hash is never guaranteed to be unique. > Set should be affected by equality. Well, actually it’s both #hash and #=. First the set tries to find a suitable place for the element using the elements hash. If

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

> Isn't it what Pharocloud is all about? ;) Partly because in enterprise environments you may want to run apps in intranet/own network only. Bye T.

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

But why is Set being affected by hash? Hash is never guaranteed to be unique. Set should be affected by equality. Doru On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Max Leske wrote: > > On 17.10.2014, at 02:46, Ben Coman wrote: > > Richard Sargent wrote: > > Eliot Miranda-2 wrote > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and its current usability in Pharo4.0 Latest update: #40307

> On 17 Oct 2014, at 02:40, Ben Coman wrote: > > Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:34, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: >>> I too miss the old workspace sometimes. Mostly for "printIt". Playgrounds >>> printIt-popup is good, but

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethod>>hash can produce clashes

> On 17.10.2014, at 02:46, Ben Coman wrote: > > Richard Sargent wrote: >> Eliot Miranda-2 wrote >>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Richard Sargent < >>> richard.sargent@ wrote: One of the best things about Smalltalk is how easily we can say what we mean. I think you would be be

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and its current usability in Pharo4.0 Latest update: #40307

> On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:58, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > Tudor wrote: >> Indeed. This was a discussion I wanted to spawn as well. I would prefer to >> change the name from Workspace to Playground in the World Menu. The reason >> is >that the Playground is such a distinct departure from the Work

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and its current usability in Pharo4.0 Latest update: #40307

> On 16 Oct 2014, at 21:01, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > > I'd like to have the old workspace as it is for quick commands and as a kind > of CLI where I do not need all the noise of the right part of the playground. > > And the playground for what it is meant to do. > > These two things are *no

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

so the advantage of using this is that is a slim down linux distro with Pharo included ? Why not just download a small linux distro and install Pharo ? On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:14 AM, mikefilonov wrote: > Thank you Torsten. Great ideas :) I made a to-do list for this project not > to > forge

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoNOS

Thank you Torsten. Great ideas :) I made a to-do list for this project not to forget anything https://trello.com/b/JXtcf2Ye/pharonos >Yes, I have the following quick setup scenario in mind: downlod the ISO, start a virtual computer >with it (in virtualization software or on a cloud server). Use

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mysteries of the compiler

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > On 16 Oct 2014 at 22:07:03, Nicolai Hess (nicolaih...@web.de) wrote: > > 2014-10-16 17:40 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker : > >> >> >> >> While in the write we need to mark: >> >> >> >> lookupVariableForWrite: aVariableNode >> >> >> >> | var |