Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-06 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Max, On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Max Leske wrote: > > On 06 Dec 2014, at 04:37, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Max Leske wrote: > >> >> > On 05 Dec 2014, at 08:02, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Am 04.12.2014 um 23:31 schrieb Thierry Goubi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Duration year

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
I love Chalten :) But you know it :) Stef Le 2/12/14 11:53, Maximiliano Taborda a écrit : Hi all. The same examples using Chaltén: February twentyninth, 2012 next: 1 yearMeasure. "=> February 28th, 2013" March first, 2011 next: 1 yearMeasure. "=> March 1st, 2012" March first,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
Thanks Mariano. If we could optimize common case = no change in superclass shape change and get that one fast it would be so great. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
There was a Tanker prototype. Now Levente did long time ago an analysis and he mentioned that the compilation was not that slow. Now I would love to have a binary format (fuel) as part of the mcz. because when we started Fuel it was the goal (I remember being shocked by the speed of Parcels 30

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
What is your use case for needing it faster? * Just every day developer use? * CI automation? * Something in production? Everything :) cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Announcements & inter-thread communication

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
Thanks for your questions. My take is - I would minimize thread and fork. I have the feeling that some people forgot or never knew that when we fork a process we have to pay attention to sync points and race condition. - About Announcements - Ideally we would like to remove

Re: [Pharo-dev] RBSmalllintContext>>primitiveComputerLiterals

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
Rename it: basicComputeLiterals sounds good. I just noticed RBSmalllintContext>>primitiveComputerLiterals doesn't seem to follow the typical pattern for that naming convention. Without digging to really understand it, I just wondered if it maybe should be called #computeLiteralsForPrimitive, o

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] e1a077: 40402

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
+1 Log Message: --- 40402 14566 ShoreLine Reporter Integration https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14566 Great work, Marcus, this was a difficult one. Thanks for your persistence. Sven

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slow TreeListMorph

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
You know this is not that I like polymorph but I could not stand the look that the people sent me each time (and I did many probably far too many) I did a Squeak presentation. So this is why we should clean Polymorph and may be at the end throw it away with Morphic. Bloc is stabilizing but this

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slow TreeListMorph

2014-12-06 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014-12-06 1:26 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Cellier < nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com>: > > > 2014-12-06 0:27 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess : > >> Anyone knows for what this is used: >> >> TreeListMorph>> >> addSubmorphsAfter: parentMorph fromCollection: aCollection allowSorting: >> sortBoolean >> "Update t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Repeatable VM crash

2014-12-06 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Hilaire, I see you found me :-). Thanks, I'll take a look asap. Probably Monday. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Hilaire wrote: > Le 05/12/2014 22:37, Eliot Miranda a écrit : > > Hi Hilaire, > > > > can you try and concoct an image that crashes from start-up without > > operator i

Re: [Pharo-dev] Repeatable VM crash

2014-12-06 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Esteban, plausibly the fix to the latest VM might fix your crash. You might test? Fingers crossed. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > yes, but the first step is to be sure you have the latest vm version :) > > Esteban > > > On 05 Dec 2014, at 22:37, Eliot Miran

Re: [Pharo-dev] How can I specify the bindings when evaluating an expression?

2014-12-06 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014-12-06 11:18 GMT+01:00 Marcus Denker : > > > On 05 Dec 2014, at 15:18, stepharo wrote: > > > > I would like to be able to express > > > > Compiler new > >bindings: { a -> 3. b -> 4}; > >evaluate: 'a + b'; > >result > > and get 7 > > > > How can I do that? > > > > Not directly, as

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-06 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
No, no. There might be a default encoder problem for the Linux VM, I don't know, it is not my main platform. If so, it might be better to default to UTF-8. Just check this page: http://zn.stfx.eu/unicode copy any part of the page and inspect Clipboard clipboardText asString I can see the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-06 Thread kilon alios
If its a known issue with a known solution why is not default like this ? On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > > I have experienced similar problems on UBUNTU but in that OS the > problem exist when copying from Chrome it does not exist when copying from > Firefox. > > Because t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-06 Thread Peter Uhnák
> I have experienced similar problems on UBUNTU but in that OS the problem exist when copying from Chrome it does not exist when copying from Firefox. Because the default encoding of Pharo VM for Unix is not unicode. If you set it manually (--textenc UTF-8) it should work even with Chrome. Pete

Re: [Pharo-dev] contributing to Pharo testing effort

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
Thanks a lot. I would love to get some tests for: Athens-SVG you can now load Athens-SVG from the ConfigurationBrowser TxText Stef Hi there, I am interested in helping out with writing tests in Pharo, and was wondering where would be a good place to start. I am fami

[Pharo-dev] Little feature for ConfigurationBrowser

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
Hi T. would it be possible to get a menu that creates the repo in the MC Browser from the ConfigurationBrowser like that people will be able to push their configuration without having to create all the repo manually? Stef

[Pharo-dev] Athens-SVG

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
Hi I started to define a configuration for Athens-SVG to load XML dependencies. And I started to clean the organization and add some comments. Now I will be able to use it in Bloc :) Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] 12854 TestRunner>>categorySelected hard coded zero

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
sometimes this is because when you click on the other list you need to reset or something like that? Le 2/12/14 16:07, Ben Coman a écrit : Anyone know why TestRunner>>categorySelected was hard coded to return zero? It breaks shift-click multiple selection in TestRunner. Seems we've lived wi

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
It would be good to avoid to duplicate the font description as binary and the font description as object. It would be nice to also have a nice way to import font from the ttf description files. This is what we should put on a server not pharo method containaing binary. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
Hi Juraj Excellent. I would like to have a nice way to import ttf and install not an horrible method full of binary data but a method that load a ttf and that creates font description directly. And as Pharo we should have a simple font ttf file server. Stef Le 2/12/14 15:02, Juraj Kubelka a é

Re: [Pharo-dev] GetOpt

2014-12-06 Thread stepharo
Can you be more concrete because I like what Camillo designed. Le 2/12/14 16:06, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit : EstebanLM wrote is cool. I would like to explore the possibility to replace our command line parser with getopt. You know… is more compatible at the end :) I find the implementation of o

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour-core maybe missing from Pharo40/main

2014-12-06 Thread Tudor Girba
I agree. Doru On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 06 Dec 2014, at 12:21, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > On 06 Dec 2014, at 12:10, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > > > On 05 Dec 2014, at 15:30, stepharo wrote: > > > Le 3/12/14 10:08, Marcus Denker a écrit : > > Yes, seemingly we lo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour-core maybe missing from Pharo40/main

2014-12-06 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 06 Dec 2014, at 12:21, Marcus Denker wrote: > > >> On 06 Dec 2014, at 12:10, Yuriy Tymchuk > > wrote: >> >> >>> On 05 Dec 2014, at 15:30, stepharo >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> Le 3/12/14 10:08, Marcus Denker a écrit : Yes, seemingly

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour-core maybe missing from Pharo40/main

2014-12-06 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 06 Dec 2014, at 12:10, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > > >> On 05 Dec 2014, at 15:30, stepharo > > wrote: >> >> >> Le 3/12/14 10:08, Marcus Denker a écrit : >>> Yes, seemingly we lost again the repos of external packages... this is a >>> bug, something in the integraton

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-06 Thread kilon alios
don't know but what I do know is that I never had such an issue with another programming language or IDE. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Max Leske wrote: > > On 06 Dec 2014, at 11:47, kilon alios wrote: > > The problem is not even just MacOS related, I have experienced similar > problems on UB

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-06 Thread Max Leske
> On 06 Dec 2014, at 11:47, kilon alios wrote: > > The problem is not even just MacOS related, I have experienced similar > problems on UBUNTU but in that OS the problem exist when copying from Chrome > it does not exist when copying from Firefox. But in MacOS even Firefox has > the same issu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour-core maybe missing from Pharo40/main

2014-12-06 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
> On 05 Dec 2014, at 15:30, stepharo wrote: > > > Le 3/12/14 10:08, Marcus Denker a écrit : >> Yes, seemingly we lost again the repos of external packages... this is a >> bug, something in the integraton process resets the reopsitories. > > Yes because else we can have dangling refs (you reme

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-06 Thread kilon alios
The problem is not even just MacOS related, I have experienced similar problems on UBUNTU but in that OS the problem exist when copying from Chrome it does not exist when copying from Firefox. But in MacOS even Firefox has the same issue.If I remember correctly Windows has same issues too. General

Re: [Pharo-dev] How can I specify the bindings when evaluating an expression?

2014-12-06 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 05 Dec 2014, at 15:18, stepharo wrote: > > I would like to be able to express > > Compiler new >bindings: { a -> 3. b -> 4}; >evaluate: 'a + b'; >result > and get 7 > > How can I do that? > Not directly, as evaluate is just a doit… but it can be added as the machinery is the

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] e1a077: 40402

2014-12-06 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 06 Dec 2014, at 11:02, GitHub wrote: > > Log Message: > --- > 40402 > 14566 ShoreLine Reporter Integration > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14566 Great work, Marcus, this was a difficult one. Thanks for your persistence. Sven

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] e1a077: 40402

2014-12-06 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: e1a077fc751bef685657e9fc7e81175c3bf30f1b https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/e1a077fc751bef685657e9fc7e81175c3bf30f1b Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-12-06 (Sat, 06 Dec 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-12-06 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40402 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-06 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 06 Dec 2014, at 10:38, Max Leske wrote: > > >> On 05 Dec 2014, at 22:17, kilon alios wrote: >> >> I try to copy this code here >> >> https://www.facebook.com/ObjectProfile/posts/742756179144315 >> >> and paste it to Playground to do it. It inserts illegal characters. >> >> I am on Ma

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-06 Thread Max Leske
> On 06 Dec 2014, at 04:37, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Max Leske > wrote: > > > On 05 Dec 2014, at 08:02, Norbert Hartl > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Am 04.12.2014 um 23:31 schrieb Thierry Goubier >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-06 Thread Max Leske
> On 05 Dec 2014, at 22:17, kilon alios wrote: > > I try to copy this code here > > https://www.facebook.com/ObjectProfile/posts/742756179144315 > > > and paste it to Playground to do it. It inserts illegal characters. > > I am

Re: [Pharo-dev] GetOpt

2014-12-06 Thread p...@highoctane.be
FWIW I am writing my product doc with Pillar . Some humps to go through but it is now coming out nicely. I hope to be able to write some things too! Phil Le 6 déc. 2014 04:32, "stepharo" a écrit : > I liked that you propose yourself also to edit the zeroConf chapter. > Thanks. > I must admit

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] fc24b0: 40401

2014-12-06 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: fc24b0e7419eb1d16609e88ff14bb40817bb17ad https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/fc24b0e7419eb1d16609e88ff14bb40817bb17ad Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-12-06 (Sat, 06 Dec 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-12-06 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40401 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Repeatable VM crash

2014-12-06 Thread Hilaire
Le 05/12/2014 22:37, Eliot Miranda a écrit : > Hi Hilaire, > > can you try and concoct an image that crashes from start-up without > operator intervention? What I mean is that if the expression that > crashes is the one you give then in a workspace evaluate > Please, give me an email to sen

Re: [Pharo-dev] Repeatable VM crash

2014-12-06 Thread Hilaire
I download the latest from jenkin? Build date in the crash log. Am I missing something? Hilaire Le 06/12/2014 08:26, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : > yes, but the first step is to be sure you have the latest vm version :) > > Esteban > -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.e