Re: [Pharo-dev] why smalltalk is the best system to support object-oriented thinking :)

2015-02-04 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Nice. > On 03 Feb 2015, at 21:15, stepharo wrote: > > Here is the presentation I did at Brescia > > http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/the-best-system-for-objectoriented-thinking > > >

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-02-04 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40474 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 683f71: 40474

2015-02-04 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 683f718e712f9be993eecc36228e27de2acd03b7 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/683f718e712f9be993eecc36228e27de2acd03b7 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2015-02-04 (Wed, 04 Feb 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] spotter preview

2015-02-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 03.02.2015 um 13:25 schrieb Marcus Denker : > > >> On 02 Feb 2015, at 22:02, Tudor Girba > > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> The Glamorous Team is happy to present a new feature in Spotter: preview >> (you toggle it with Cmd+p). We think this boosts the usefulness of

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anonymous classes should be browseable

2015-02-04 Thread stepharo
I will reply to this by private e-mail. There are many aspects of Nautilus that I do not like but there are even more aspect about the old browser and OB that I hate! And as you know doing is difficult. You know I wrote several OB browsers so I know OB had problems. OB was not *t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Question on AioPlugin

2015-02-04 Thread David T. Lewis
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 07:18:03AM +0100, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Hi all, > > anybody knows how to check if the AioPlugin is included in the current > stable Pharo vm(*)? OSProcess is complaining of a missing AioPlugin, and I > remember a thread where this was solved by integrating it in the vm b

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] spotter preview

2015-02-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Hmm. I cannot reproduce your problem. I do this: - Shift+Enter - Spotter is opened without preview - Cmd+P - preview is opened - Esc - Shift+Enter - Spotter is opened with preview - Cmd+P - preview is closed - Shift+Enter - Spotter is opened without preview Does this not work for you in this

[Pharo-dev] '/is/this/possible?' asFileReference size

2015-02-04 Thread Roberto Minelli
Hi, I just discovered that if you ask #size to a non-eistent file reference you obtain False. I submitted an issue @ https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14862/is-this-possible-asFileReference-size Cheers, Roby

Re: [Pharo-dev] Who are the experts?

2015-02-04 Thread Roberto Minelli
Sorry for the late reply, Stef. Cool that you cleaned AbstractTool and about the second part of my email.. I was indeed wrong! Cheers, R > On 31 Jan 2015, at 20:39, stepharo wrote: > > > Le 27/1/15 13:21, Roberto Minelli a écrit : >> ### NautilusRefactoring >> - How does it work? Why there a

[Pharo-dev] Empty Package Names

2015-02-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
I noticed that in 4.0 one gets a (resume-able) exception when trying to define a class in category ''. Why? Is it true, as the error message states, that "the Category should not be empty"? One of our key principles inherited from Smalltalk is to treat the programmer like they know what they're doi

Re: [Pharo-dev] '/is/this/possible?' asFileReference size

2015-02-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Roberto Minelli-3 wrote > I just discovered that if you ask #size to a non-eistent file reference > you obtain False. That was a design decision to make people feel more comfortable coming from C++... 0 = False ;) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/is-thi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Empty Package Names

2015-02-04 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 04 Feb 2015, at 15:14, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > I noticed that in 4.0 one gets a (resume-able) exception when trying to > define a class in category ''. Why? Is it true, as the error message states, > that "the Category should not be empty"? One of our key principles inherited > from Sma

[Pharo-dev] How Stable is Pharo 4.0?

2015-02-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Is anyone successfully using it for everyday development on their own projects? How painless/ful is it? Thanks - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-Stable-is-Pharo-4-0-tp4803645.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble

Re: [Pharo-dev] '/is/this/possible?' asFileReference size

2015-02-04 Thread Roberto Minelli
“Design”? > On 04 Feb 2015, at 15:18, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Roberto Minelli-3 wrote >> I just discovered that if you ask #size to a non-eistent file reference >> you obtain False. > > That was a design decision to make people feel more comfortable coming from > C++... 0 = False ;) > > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Question on AioPlugin

2015-02-04 Thread Thierry Goubier
Dave, Esteban, thanks for the update. I'll downgrade GitFileTree on the previous version of OSProcess/CommandShell until the Aio plugin is available on the stable download of the Pharo vm. Thierry 2015-02-04 13:44 GMT+01:00 David T. Lewis : > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 07:18:03AM +0100, Thierry Go

Re: [Pharo-dev] How Stable is Pharo 4.0?

2015-02-04 Thread kilon alios
Well I would not just call it painless more like a very big improvement over Pharo 3. No strange bugs and abnormal behaviour so far , and I have been using it for more than a year. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Is anyone successfully using it for everyday development

Re: [Pharo-dev] How Stable is Pharo 4.0?

2015-02-04 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 04 Feb 2015, at 15:21, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Is anyone successfully using it for everyday development on their own > projects? How painless/ful is it? Thanks > Hard to say… the amount of new bugs reported is quite low. Subjectively it feels stable to me, but than this is of course a

Re: [Pharo-dev] How Stable is Pharo 4.0?

2015-02-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 04.02.2015 um 15:21 schrieb Sean P. DeNigris : > > Is anyone successfully using it for everyday development on their own > projects? How painless/ful is it? Thanks > I work now on a daily basis with it. The downside ist that some DNUs lead to infinite loops in somewhere around #stepToCall

Re: [Pharo-dev] Empty Package Names

2015-02-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Marcus Denker-4 wrote > Maybe we could have a general place for all these? _UnpackagedPackage? - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Empty-Package-Names-tp4803642p4803660.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Pharo-dev] Gofer loadStable weirdness

2015-02-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
In #30862 (can't test in 4.0 because no stable TWM version declared)... Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'MetaRepoForPharo30'; configurationOf: 'TilingWindowManager'; loadStable. gives the error: "Could not resolve: TWM [TWM-BernardoContreras.68]..." But the

[Pharo-dev] Parsing float difference between 2.0 and 3.0, was it on purpose?

2015-02-04 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi guys, In Pharo 2.0, the expression "Number readFrom: '2.58500098e+04' " would answer 25850.01 , but in Pharo 3.0 it answers: 2.58500097 which is a kind of WTF to me. Checking the differences it seems in Pharo 2.0 ExtendedNumberParser (used from Number >> readFrom: ) implement

Re: [Pharo-dev] Empty Package Names

2015-02-04 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-02-04 17:13 GMT+01:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > Marcus Denker-4 wrote > > Maybe we could have a general place for all these? > > _UnpackagedPackage? > Yes ! Esteban, this package is there for that reason, isn't it? Do we have the special logic which makes it a fall-through for code created witho

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] spotter preview

2015-02-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 04.02.2015 um 13:54 schrieb Tudor Girba : > > Hi, > > Hmm. I cannot reproduce your problem. I do this: > - Shift+Enter - Spotter is opened without preview > - Cmd+P - preview is opened > - Esc > - Shift+Enter - Spotter is opened with preview > - Cmd+P - preview is closed > - Shift+Enter - S

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] spotter preview

2015-02-04 Thread Andrei Chis
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Am 04.02.2015 um 13:54 schrieb Tudor Girba : > > Hi, > > Hmm. I cannot reproduce your problem. I do this: > - Shift+Enter - Spotter is opened without preview > - Cmd+P - preview is opened > - Esc > - Shift+Enter - Spotter is opened with pre

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing Pharo on Ubuntu

2015-02-04 Thread Markus Fritsche
Hi, https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncherFinalUserImage/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/PharoLauncher.zip as used in the script for the Pharo Launcher throws a 404 - what's the proper new address? Best regards, Markus On 28.01.2015 21:22, Damien Cassou wrote: > > Le 27 janvier

[Pharo-dev] Real Selectors

2015-02-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
As I sit here writing this case statement, I'm thinking "Man, it sure would be nice to have: Selector UnarySelector BinarySelector KeywordSelector" - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Real-Selectors-tp4803732.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Seaside and Angular JS

2015-02-04 Thread S Krish
Updated to Gofer Scripts.. all dependencies self contained including customJs / customCss... Instructions updated in the same wordpress link: https://skrishnamachari.wordpress.com/2015/02/04/angular-js-in-seaside/ On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:38 AM, S Krish wrote: > > > A very initial attempt a

Re: [Pharo-dev] How Stable is Pharo 4.0?

2015-02-04 Thread Tudor Girba
I am using it on a daily basis for implementing various analyses. I see no downside to using it. Doru On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Is anyone successfully using it for everyday development on their own > projects? How painless/ful is it? Thanks > > > > - > Cheers

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing Pharo on Ubuntu

2015-02-04 Thread Damien Cassou
Markus Fritsche writes: Hi, https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncherFinalUserImage/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/PharoLauncher.zip as used in the script for the Pharo Launcher throws a 404 - what's the proper new address? launcher: http://files.pharo.org/platform/launcher/bl

Re: [Pharo-dev] How can I specify the bindings when evaluating an expression?

2015-02-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Nicolai Hess wrote > Dictionary newFrom:{ WorkspaceVariable key:#a value:3. > WorkspaceVariable key:#b value:4} Thanks! That works great :) n.b. in Pharo 3.0, just replace the WorkspaceVariables with regular associations: Smalltalk compiler evaluate:'a+b' notifying: (Dictionary newFrom: { #

Re: [Pharo-dev] ||

2015-02-04 Thread Richard Sargent
Levente Uzonyi-2 wrote > On Tue, 3 Feb 2015, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On 03 Feb 2015, at 09:17, Marcus Denker < > marcus.denker@ > > wrote: >> >> >> On 02 Feb 2015, at 21:47, Eliot Miranda < > eliot.miranda@ > > wrote: >> >> Hi All, >>     code as in the double bars forming t

Re: [Pharo-dev] How can I specify the bindings when evaluating an expression?

2015-02-04 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-02-04 23:07 GMT+01:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > Nicolai Hess wrote > > Dictionary newFrom:{ WorkspaceVariable key:#a value:3. > > WorkspaceVariable key:#b value:4} > > Thanks! That works great :) > > n.b. in Pharo 3.0, just replace the WorkspaceVariables with regular > associations: > Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-dev] Real Selectors

2015-02-04 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Yes, I defined it once, it's not difficult to implement. The protocol was something like: Symbol>>asUnarySelector Symbol>>asBinarySelector Symbol>>asKeywordSelector Selector>>#suggestedSelectorFor: aString Selector>>#precedence Selector>>argumentsSize I defined also compare protocol methods #una

Re: [Pharo-dev] How can I specify the bindings when evaluating an expression?

2015-02-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Nicolai Hess wrote > We lost this feature in 40097 Which feature? Using bare associations instead of WorkspaceVariables? - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-can-I-specify-the-bindings-when-evaluating-an-expression-tp4794352p4803810.html Sent from the P

[Pharo-dev] Switching to Pharo from Visualworks

2015-02-04 Thread Stephen Travis Pope
Hello PharoDev, I have a largish project (Siren) that I have developed in ST80/VisualWorks (since 1984) and ported to Squeak in the past. I'm allows looking for a cleaner free ST80 implementation to host the project. Looking at Pharo, it appears to me to be suffering the same bloat issues as Sq

[Pharo-dev] ImageWorkerTest>>#testError is failing

2015-02-04 Thread Juraj Kubelka
Hi, a validation report says that ImageWorkerTest>>#testError is failing but I do not have that test in my Pharo image and I do not know how to download it? Where is it come from? How can I execute

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching to Pharo from Visualworks

2015-02-04 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Le 5 févr. 2015 02:30, "Stephen Travis Pope" a écrit : > > > Hello PharoDev, > > I have a largish project (Siren) that I have developed in ST80/VisualWorks > (since 1984) and ported to Squeak in the past. > > I'm allows looking for a cleaner free ST80 implementation to host the > project. > > Look

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching to Pharo from Visualworks

2015-02-04 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Stephen Travis Pope < step...@heaveneverywhere.com> wrote: > > Hello PharoDev, > Hi Stephen, > > I have a largish project (Siren) that I have developed in ST80/VisualWorks > (since 1984) and ported to Squeak in the past. > > I'm allows looking for a cleaner free