Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2015-12-21 19:07 GMT+01:00 Robert Withers : > What are you and the RMOD team doing, I am curious? RMOD is research team at INRIA university. We develop Pharo.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] VM Maker: VMMaker.oscog-eem.1609.mcz

2015-12-21 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Hmm, for micro-benchmark maybe, but this has to be measured once the JIT is ready. >From the stack VM, I can notice a slight slowdown w.r.t. 32 bits stack. But it doesn't really matter, stak is too slow compared to COG, so let's wait. 2015-12-21 21:24 GMT+01:00 stepharo : > :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Multiple Desktop support for Pharo 5

2015-12-21 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Hannes, I've just added support for this. Update your version or load latest from Catalog. You can then use the menu or CTRL + D and then CTRL + R like "Desktop" -> "Rename" so now you have: CTRL + D and then CTRL + D like "Desktop" -> "Desktop switcher" (a custom Spotter)

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Robert Withers
On 12/21/2015 01:34 PM, stepharo wrote: Le 19/12/15 14:33, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit : I am very excited for such a project. I hope you manage to fix the stdout problem on macos. One thing I would like to see is an expansion of the ability of OSProcess to launch multiple instances of

Re: [Pharo-dev] in Togo teaching Pharo with Stef

2015-12-21 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Have fun with Stef in Lomé ! On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi guys, > > just letting you know that I’m not working until January 4th because I’m in > Togo, helping Stef to teach Pharo… so the spur problems will need to wait a > bit to be

[Pharo-dev] Ephemerons

2015-12-21 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Hi All, Elliot ;-) Do we have Ephemerons in Pharo? Will we have them? I'm migrating from VW some code that uses it, and if we're not going to have them I'd like to delete the code or package it separately and hopefully it will work if Ephemerons are added later to Pharo. Regards! Esteban A.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] VM Maker: VMMaker.oscog-eem.1609.mcz

2015-12-21 Thread stepharo
:) So is it correct to think that a lot of number oriented computation will go faster because not on large positive integers? Stef Le 20/12/15 13:39, Nicolas Cellier a écrit : SmallInteger maxVal highBit -> 60. 3 bits reserved for immediate tags, 1 bit for sign, 60 remaining for positive

Re: [Pharo-dev] in Togo teaching Pharo with Stef

2015-12-21 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
So Stef finally convinced you to visit it. Good luck! Esteban A. Maringolo 2015-12-21 15:15 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > Hi guys, > > just letting you know that I’m not working until January 4th because I’m in > Togo, helping Stef to teach Pharo… so the spur problems

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Robert Withers
On 12/21/2015 03:31 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: 2015-12-21 19:07 GMT+01:00 Robert Withers >: What are you and the RMOD team doing, I am curious? RMOD is research team at INRIA university. We develop Pharo. Yes,

[Pharo-dev] in Togo teaching Pharo with Stef

2015-12-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi guys, just letting you know that I’m not working until January 4th because I’m in Togo, helping Stef to teach Pharo… so the spur problems will need to wait a bit to be solved :) cheers, Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] Ephemerons

2015-12-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 21 Dec 2015, at 22:13, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > you will have them with Pharo 5 and spur, of course… but pharo 5 will have them, not previous versions :) > >> On 21 Dec 2015, at 19:50, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: >> >> Hi All, Elliot ;-) >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Ephemerons

2015-12-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
you will have them with Pharo 5 > On 21 Dec 2015, at 19:50, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > > Hi All, Elliot ;-) > > Do we have Ephemerons in Pharo? Will we have them? > > I'm migrating from VW some code that uses it, and if we're not going > to have them I'd like to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Ephemerons

2015-12-21 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2015-12-21 19:14 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > >> On 21 Dec 2015, at 22:13, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >> you will have them with Pharo 5 > and spur, of course… but pharo 5 will have them, not previous versions :) Good news for GLORP Weak Cache

Re: [Pharo-dev] #sum:, #detectSum:, #sumNumbers: (Max Leske)

2015-12-21 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 21 Dec 2015, at 23:48, Richard Uttner wrote: > > This is my first contribution to the DevList and I hope you forgive me that > it sounds more like "I see something we dont need" than the other way round, > but there will be more positive posts of mine concering

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] e8216b: 50508

2015-12-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/5.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: e8216bc7a0ab9fb6f8289d8aabea9fcd1174f878 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/e8216bc7a0ab9fb6f8289d8aabea9fcd1174f878 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-12-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/50508 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Robert Withers
Well, your countries have been intricately connected, and once again north of Sykes-Picot. Kak dela? Karosho. I'm more Germany/Egypt connected. What are you and the RMOD team doing, I am curious? Ok, I don't mean to drag us to politics, nor religion. I was making a point that connects Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Robert Withers
On 12/21/2015 12:55 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 21 Dec 2015, at 17:20, Robert Withers wrote: On 12/21/2015 10:17 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: 2015-12-21 11:19 GMT+01:00 Robert Withers : governments cannot crack it. Why it is

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] [Unicode] Summary (Re: Unicode Support // e acute example --> decomposition in Pharo?)

2015-12-21 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Andres, There are no plans at all to drop any of the existing character encodings from Pharo. UTF-16 LE & BE will remain part of the standard image, as are all single byte encodings. No need to worry. Sven > On 19 Dec 2015, at 03:04, Andres Valloud >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Multiple Desktop support for Pharo 5

2015-12-21 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Torsten the desktops are named 'Desktop 1' 'Desktop 2' 'Desktop 3'. Is it possible to change these names? Regards Hannes On 8/27/15, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Julien Delplanque provided this week a goodie to switch between > "desktops" - but his initial

Re: [Pharo-dev] #sum:, #detectSum:, #sumNumbers:

2015-12-21 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > I am saying that if you want sum: to be generic, it cannot assume a > *specific* Zero object. > And sum: should be generic because of its name. This seems the crux of the disparate viewpoints, which is why I suggested

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 21/12/2015 11:05, Ben Coman a écrit : On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: Hello 2015-12-20 19:54 GMT+01:00 Mariano Martinez Peck : That being said, I of course like the idea of distributing processing across multiple

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] [Unicode] Summary (Re: Unicode Support // e acute example --> decomposition in Pharo?)

2015-12-21 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi Hannes, > On 18 Dec 2015, at 14:47, H. Hirzel wrote: > > Hello Sven > > Thank you for your report about about your experimental, proof of > concept, prototype project, that aims to improve Unicode support. > Please include me in the loop. > > Below is is my

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Robert Withers
On 12/21/2015 05:05 AM, Ben Coman wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: Hello 2015-12-20 19:54 GMT+01:00 Mariano Martinez Peck : That being said, I of course like the idea of distributing processing across multiple

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Love to read that! On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hello > > 2015-12-20 19:54 GMT+01:00 Mariano Martinez Peck : > >> That being said, I of course like the idea of distributing processing >> across multiple images. No

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hello 2015-12-20 19:54 GMT+01:00 Mariano Martinez Peck : > That being said, I of course like the idea of distributing processing > across multiple images. No wonder, my PhD tool (Marea) and related > sub-projects (Fuel, Ghost proxies, etc) have something to do with the >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hello > > 2015-12-20 19:54 GMT+01:00 Mariano Martinez Peck : >> >> That being said, I of course like the idea of distributing processing >> across multiple images. No wonder, my PhD tool

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 3:20 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Thierry Goubier > wrote: >> >> Hi Mariano, >> >> Le 20/12/2015 19:54, Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Dimitri, Dave et all. >>> >>>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Robert Withers
On 12/21/2015 10:17 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: 2015-12-21 11:19 GMT+01:00 Robert Withers >: governments cannot crack it. Why it is disadvantage? Governments stay in power, or exercise collective sovereignty, through

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Hi Mariano, > > Le 20/12/2015 19:54, Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit : > >> Hi Dimitri, Dave et all. >> >> First let me do a little disclaimer. Regarding the developments itself >> of this sponsorship, we

[Pharo-dev] No refactoring for equal/hash generation

2015-12-21 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi. There is no menu item in Nautilus to generate equal/hash methods for class. But there is RBGenerateEqualHashRefactoring class which can do that. And I remember that in past we had such feature from the browser. Should we restore it? I can submit issue for this.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2015-12-21 11:19 GMT+01:00 Robert Withers : > governments cannot crack it. Why it is disadvantage?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Denis Kudriashov
I'm from Russia. Now I work in Rmod team and live in France. But let's talk here about Pharo. 2015-12-21 18:03 GMT+01:00 Robert Withers : > Out of curiosity and to make a point, where are you from, Denis? Where do > you live now? Many from different lands, closer to

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Robert Withers
Out of curiosity and to make a point, where are you from, Denis? Where do you live now? Many from different lands, closer to each other than eah to our own governments. Trending into the future, transnational connections will deviate from their (governments') norm. On 12/21/2015 10:17 AM,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Consortium Sponsored Development Effort

2015-12-21 Thread Robert Withers
Out of curiosity and to make a point, where are you from, Denis? Where do you live now? Many from different lands, closer to each other than eah to our own governments. Trending into the future, transnational connections will deviate from their (governments') norm. On 12/21/2015 10:17 AM,

Re: [Pharo-dev] #sum:, #detectSum:, #sumNumbers:

2015-12-21 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
I would suggest not to change anything for now, let's wait for Max's poll or feedback from others. We could also pick this up again when we see each other IRL, like at the Pharo Days, that will certainly make it easier. > On 20 Dec 2015, at 22:09, Tudor Girba wrote: > >