Re: [Pharo-dev] remote development via VS Code

Hi Eliot, On 8 June 2017 at 17:30, Eliot Miranda wrote: > There is nothing inscrutable about the Cog JIT in the standard Pharo and > Squeak VMs. > Sounds lovely. I am working with LuaJIT. I have half a dozen significant technical problems to solve before I am anywhere close to helping mere mor

Re: [Pharo-dev] remote development via VS Code

On 8 June 2017 at 15:07, Ben Coman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Luke Gorrie wrote: > >> Currently I am working towards teaching the Inspector to explore internal >> data structures in a tracing JIT. >> > > I presume this is for LuaJIT that Snabbu uses? > Short answer is yes. Long a

Re: [Pharo-dev] remote development via VS Code

On Thursday 08 June 2017 09:15 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: There are many things one could use this for, but one clear direction, from the success of docker, is to make a Smalltalk image observable and configurable by devops people without having to start up an image and navigate an unfamiliar and f

[Pharo-dev] Fwd: PharoCloud drops VM hosting and focuses on Ephemeric Cloud

> Begin forwarded message: > From: mikefilonov Subject: [Pharo-users] PharoCloud drops VM hosting and focuses on Ephemeric Cloud Date: 9 June 2017 at 00:59:33 GMT+2 To: pharo-us...@lists.pharo.org Reply-To: Any question about pharo is welcome Hello, I just wanted to make some clarification

[Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

Hi, because during the image bootstrapping all source code is reloaded, it is all placed in the changes file and the sources file is useless. It would be strange to deliver Pharo with empty sources file and big changes so we decided to do sources compacting for every build. So Pharo 7 development

[Pharo-dev] Pharo6 64 bit linux Iceberg / git status?

Hi All, What's the current status of Iceberg / git on Pharo6 64 bit on linux (Ubuntu)? I'm getting LGit_GIT_ERROR: Invalid version 0 on git_remote_callbacks when trying to load a package with Iceberg. OS: Ubuntu 16.04 Pharo 6.0 Latest update: #60499 5.0-201705310241 Wed May 31 04:44:35 UTC 20

[Pharo-dev] CPU and RAM usage of Pharo3 vs. Pharo6

Hey! my current major deployment is still with Pharo3 and due some bigger changes I start to migrate to Pharo6 and today I finally managed to update the test deployment (and be happy with it). The test is not scientific but maybe an early indicator that there is something to look at? The image

Re: [Pharo-dev] CPU and RAM usage of Pharo3 vs. Pharo6

There is a server mode option somewhere that could reduce some usage. Maybe it will help. Phil Le 9 juin 2017 13:07, "Holger Freyther" a écrit : > Hey! > > my current major deployment is still with Pharo3 and due some bigger > changes I start to migrate to Pharo6 and today I finally managed to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Hi, > > because during the image bootstrapping all source code is reloaded, it is > all placed in the changes file and the sources file is useless. It would be > strange to deliver Pharo with empty sources file and big changes so we > decide

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

Why cannot we have the sources in the image? When I asked it 2 years ago people were like: "oh, but you can just download 1 sources file and use it by all the images". I don’t care about that micro space savings, but fine, I said: have it your way. Now as we have to download sources all the tim

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

We plan to change the sources management. But not immediately. -- Pavel 2017-06-09 14:51 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk : > Why cannot we have the sources in the image? > > When I asked it 2 years ago people were like: "oh, but you can just > download 1 sources file and use it by all the images". I don

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > Why cannot we have the sources in the image? > > When I asked it 2 years ago people were like: "oh, but you can just > download 1 sources file and use it by all the images". I don’t care about > that micro space savings, but fine, I said: ha

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo6 64 bit linux Iceberg / git status?

Hi, Iceberg is not working on 64bits. I didn’t have the time to make the migration, it will be ready and backported in a couple of weeks. Esteban > On 9 Jun 2017, at 10:53, Alistair Grant wrote: > > Hi All, > > What's the current status of Iceberg / git on Pharo6 64 bit on linux > (Ubuntu)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

Aha, good to know! > On 9 Jun 2017, at 14:57, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > We plan to change the sources management. But not immediately. > > -- Pavel > > 2017-06-09 14:51 GMT+02:00 Yuriy Tymchuk >: > Why cannot we have the sources in the image? > > When I asked it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

On Friday 09 June 2017 06:38 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk What if the sources is appended to the image file with a special header. New code can relocate this pointer on the fly. The same technique can be applied to changes file too. A small script

Re: [Pharo-dev] CPU and RAM usage of Pharo3 vs. Pharo6

> On 9. Jun 2017, at 19:11, philippe.b...@highoctane.be > wrote: > Hi! > There is a server mode option somewhere that could reduce some usage. related to Morphic polling? Right now the images still install RFB to help poking it at runtime (I should use the remote debugging for sure) so disa

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo6 64 bit linux Iceberg / git status?

On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 03:25:36PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > > Iceberg is not working on 64bits. I didn???t have the time to make > the migration, it will be ready and backported in a couple of weeks. > Esteban > No problem, thanks for your update. Cheers, Alistair > > On 9 Ju

Re: [Pharo-dev] CPU and RAM usage of Pharo3 vs. Pharo6

> On 9. Jun 2017, at 23:09, Holger Freyther wrote: > > related to Morphic polling? Right now the images still install RFB to help > poking it at runtime (I should use the remote debugging for sure) so > disabling morphic completely might not be an option yet? WorldState serverMode: true? An

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk > wrote: > >> Why cannot we have the sources in the image? >> > >> We can, but that's something that requires changing lot's of things > inside the image and it requires probably lot of test

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:01 PM, K K Subbu wrote: > On Friday 09 June 2017 06:38 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk > When I asked it 2 years ago people were like: "oh, but you can just >> download 1 sources file and use it by all the images". I

[Pharo-dev] Parallel Port

Hi, I need to access to the Parallel Port in order to use an old Analog/Digital board to sense temperature in a micro brewery. Is anyone using any package to do this? I'm using Pharo 6 on Windows. Thanks in advance, Facundo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Parallel Port

The only two historical references I see on forum.world.st are from 2006 & 2010. http://forum.world.st/parallel-port-access-on-Linux-td46506.html http://forum.world.st/Physical-Etoys-released-td1574259.html and they have some link rot. I'd guess your best approach would be to get something working

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

Hi Yiury, On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 5:51 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > Why cannot we have the sources in the image? > > When I asked it 2 years ago people were like: "oh, but you can just > download 1 sources file and use it by all the images". I don’t care about > that micro space savings, but fine,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

+ 1 :) It is just a file and this is only for the development of Pharo and for users of Pharo 70 it will be exactly the same. Let us focus on the place where we can get a good impact/ratio/plus for business/plus for innovation. I have a lot of dreams for Pharo: from the coffee machine to the big da

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 and changes/sources files

This is excellent to get the bootstrap in production.!! On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Hi, > > because during the image bootstrapping all source code is reloaded, it is > all placed in the changes file and the sources file is usele