e this and porting my stuff from VW,
with Christian's help. Thanks Christian.
Here's the issue sketching what I want to do in the highlighter:
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/11505
Shaping
inter-package dependencies
in order to get the load order right.
Yes.
Shaping
From: christian.hai...@smalltalked-visuals.com
<mailto:christian.hai...@smalltalked-visuals.com>
mailto:christian.hai...@smalltalked-visuals.com> >
Sent: Friday, 5 August, 2022 05:53
To: &
nd porting my stuff from VW,
with Christian's help. Thanks Christian.
Here's the issue sketching what I want to do in the highlighter:
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/11505
Shaping
loads completely on
the next run. That could take a while. Is that what you do in practice?
I’m assuming the code writer is taking into account inter-package dependencies
in order to get the load order right.
Shaping
From: christian.hai...@smalltalked-visuals.com
Sent: Friday, 5
notation. The method reads ‘….Project’,
but returns a ProjectChange instance. I’ll go with the stricter notation, and
call my method ShapingProjectChange (I have one large Shaping bundle containing
all pundles). The Transformer doesn’t seem to have the notion of a project,
anyway, just a
ols
Postscript CMap Instances
?
Shaping
From: Shaping
Sent: Thursday, 4 August, 2022 22:02
To: 'Pharo Development List' ; 'Pharo Development
List'
Subject: [Pharo-dev] Re: [Pharo-users] Re: [Pharo-users]Porting from VW 8.3 to
Pharo: pdftalkPackageChanges
The
gt; 'PtOT';
yourself))
but it’s not the PDFtalk project. Bundle ‘PDFtalk Project’ is
Why leave out the true top-level bundle? There’s no doubt that it’s the
project bundle because its name include ‘Project’.
ure for a project, in this case
all the PDFtalk stuff, which includes Values and Postscript.
This is not exactly a bundle idea, is it? It’s project spread across
potentially many bundles and packages.
I’ll start coding my transform with a similar method, and work down toward the
details.
className:
#Color
instanceChanges: (Array with: (Add method: #asColorValue code:
#_ph_asColorValue)))
is replacing #asColorValue with #_ph_asColorValue because some special
Pharo-color conversion needs to happen. But how does #_ph_asColorValue get
defined? It’s neither in VW
sponsoring.
Still let us know.
Shaping about the spec questions esteban is on vacation and when he will
reappear he will check the libgit change impacting us.
Then the spec aspects.
I’m trying to get by with the smaller fonts for labels and an 11 pt. Fira Code
in the code pane. That doesn’t
his for many years. Thanks again.
Shaping
From: christian.haider mailto:christian.hai...@smalltalked-visuals.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June, 2022 05:42
To: pharo-us...@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-us...@lists.pharo.org>
Subject: [Pharo-users] [PDFtalk] second fileOut for
fully contained test package with no external
dependencies as a first test, probably my Magnitude or Collection packages.
Suggestions are welcome. Thanks for doing this and sharing it.
Shaping
From: christian.haider mailto:christian.hai...@smalltalked-visuals.com> >
Sent: Wednesd
From: Shaping
Sent: Wednesday, 4 May, 2022 02:46
To: 'Pharo Development List'
Cc: 'Pharo-users'
Subject: [Pharo-dev] Re: [ANN] Pharo Launcher 3.0.1 released!
On May 3, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Shaping < <mailto:shap...@uurda.org>
shap...@uurda.org> wrote:
From: Shaping
Sent: Wednesday, 4 May, 2022 02:46
To: 'Pharo Development List'
Cc: 'Pharo-users'
Subject: [Pharo-dev] Re: [ANN] Pharo Launcher 3.0.1 released!
On May 3, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Shaping < <mailto:shap...@uurda.org>
shap...@uurda.org> wrote:
From: Shaping
Sent: Wednesday, 4 May, 2022 02:46
To: 'Pharo Development List'
Cc: 'Pharo-users'
Subject: [Pharo-dev] Re: [ANN] Pharo Launcher 3.0.1 released!
On May 3, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Shaping < <mailto:shap...@uurda.org>
shap...@uurda.org> wrote:
From: Shaping
Sent: Wednesday, 4 May, 2022 02:46
To: 'Pharo Development List'
Cc: 'Pharo-users'
Subject: [Pharo-dev] Re: [ANN] Pharo Launcher 3.0.1 released!
On May 3, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Shaping < <mailto:shap...@uurda.org>
shap...@uurda.org> wrote:
On May 3, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Shaping < <mailto:shap...@uurda.org>
shap...@uurda.org> wrote:
>
> This is strange. I tested PharoLauncher 3.0.1 on Windows 10 and had no
> problems.
> Did you try to uninstall the previous launcher first?
>
> Yes, I did the un
, just an ordinary event log:
Windows Installer installed the product. Product Name: PharoLauncher. Product
Version: 3.0.1. Product Language: 1033. Manufacturer: Pharo project.
Installation success or error status: 0.
Is everyone else able to open PL 3.0.1 on Windows?
Shaping
Hi Christophe.
Is PL still broken? The PL download page still shows version 3.0.1, which
does not open for me on Windows. Did you test the latest build successfully
on Windows?
Shaping
---
PL 3.0.1 is still failing to open on Windows. The VM instance appears in
TaskMan
PL 3.0.1 is still failing to open on Windows. The VM instance appears in
TaskMan.
Shaping
From: Christophe Demarey
Sent: Friday, 29 April, 2022 03:50
To: Pharo Development List ; Pharo-users
Subject: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Launcher 3.0.1 released!
Hi all,
Pharo Launcher 3.0.1
Hi Christophe.
I tried installing the version below (after uninstalling the old PL 3.0), but I
get the same problem. Double clicking the PL icon will create VM instances but
no GUI. The Windows Event Viewer says the install completed successfully.
Shaping
From: Christophe
I’m running an updated Windows 10 Pro, and let the Pharo Launcher installer use
all the defaults. The uninstalls were thorough and done with CCleaner and Revo
Uninstaller.
Is everyone able to get Pharo Launcher 3.0 to work? I’ve never had this
problem.
Shaping
---
My
My newly installed Pharo Launcher 3.0 doesn’t open. Starting the Launcher
creates a VM, but no GUI. Every time I start it, TaskMan shows another VM
instance, but no GUI appears.
I ran the installer twice after a complete uninstall. Anyone having this
problem?
Shaping
From
M_MAJOR_VERSION)
71 the vmProxyMinorVersion (the interpreterProxy
VM_MINOR_VERSION)"
Shaping
state except to
collect all garbage.
Shaping
does sound more realistic and more sustainable.
Shaping
On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 16:57, Shaping mailto:shap...@uurda.org> > wrote:
You also had personality differences and disagreements which developed over
years. Eventually the Pink plane community forked and created Pharo. The
foundational community of Squeak (Blue plane) did not want to ma
cting that for all the
simplifications and Spartan approach. The main appeal is simplified
code/framework study.
Shaping
On Sat, 16 May 2020, 10:57 Shaping, mailto:shap...@uurda.org> > wrote:
Hi Jimmie.
On 5/15/20 5:26 AM, Shaping wrote:
I don’t understand the split
.
Shaping
Hi Eliot.
Generally, comparing VisualWorks to either Squeak or Pharo or both, what are
the most pressing speed problems?
1. Double-click text selection in both Squeak and Pharo shows a 75-100 ms
latency (eye-balled, estimated) between end of double click
procedure you like to use when benchmarking the VW VM?
Shaping
Hi Jimmie.
On 5/15/20 5:26 AM, Shaping wrote:
I don’t understand the split. It looks silly. Maybe someone can explain the
split in terms of technical/architectural advantages, if any exist.
I began using Squeak about 20 years ago. And then Pharo when it started. I will
explain as
spot in
the code to make the change. It’s very simple. I figure someone knows it
because they’ve tweaked it already. That would save some time. I think I made
the change myself in an older Pharo. I forgot where I did it.
Cheers,
Shaping
Arithmetic changes proposed in Squeak have no relationships to VM.
The question below is about both the VM and a common basic class-set.
Math-related classes/methods are assumed to be part of that common class-set.
Why is that not so?
Shaping
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:09 PM Shaping
the same image, and configured as desired in
GUI sections of Settings?
Shaping
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:48 PM Shaping mailto:shap...@uurda.org> > wrote:
Hi all.
Squeak 5.3:
Time millisecondsToRun: [ 10 factorial ] 6250
Pharo 8:
Time millisecond
under the hood, abstracted out) to make the
concurrency guarantees. Work Smalltalk dynamism into Pony, instead of building
a Smalltalk VM with Pony.
Shaping
"Rational numbers"
(1/2) + (1/3) + (1/6). "--> 1 "
"Complex numbers"
[ :n |
I should have initially posted this to the Pharo-dev list, as well.
From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of
Shaping
Sent: Friday, 3 April, 2020 14:05
To: 'Any question about pharo is welcome'
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Latest PharoJS Success S
On 2 Jun 2019, at 19:22, Shaping mailto:shap...@uurda.org>
> wrote:
>From a 64-bit Pharo 7.0.3 I cloned UpdatedPharoByExample and immediately saw
>in red ‘No Project Found’. Why is this and what must I do to fix it?
>GitKraken shows that the repo is healthy.
B
- many many cleans
- Introduction of application and more.
Okay, sounds good.
Shaping
[…] I prefer the more detailed syntax highlighting in VW.
Check the styler look for
e
result.
Shaping
-bit Pharo.
So tonel is a must for you else you will die.
Agreed. I see the bad effects of the Windows 260-character limit with
FileTree.
Shaping
have a formal definition for Environment. I tend to think in terms of
a VW namespace.
Shaping
No, I missed it. Thanks for that.
I have a lot of algorithmic meat in domain classes. Those are easy to port,
even if I must manually trip over the minor VW/Pharo differences, and
slot-based integrity checks. I'm happy they are there, but they are not
nearly enough to make humans extremely productive and powerful at shaping
machine behaviors. I think we are overworked and that our machines are
hardly being used. There is a science to increasing reading speed and
compre
I can learn to deal with Iceberg.
Shaping
n before the font-change must be
re-opened. The font does visibly change before the reopening, but the
field-size adjustment needed to see all the text does not happen until after
reopening.
Will Spec fix this?
Thanks.
Shaping
Does anyone have experience with Squeak Environments? This came up in the Cuis
list. Environments are Squeak’s attempt at a module or namespace system. Does
this exist for Pharo? Has anyone worked with it, and found it to be usable?
Shaping
in an \images
subfolder. I currently keep all my Git repos on a separate RAID drive.
Now on windows the state of the libraries to run scripts is making us trouble
Can you give more details on that? What are the problems?
and we will have to fix it.
Shaping
Mbps at the low end.
A poor connection might also explain some of your PharoLauncher "identifying VM
version" issues.
> I also got the error:
>
> LGit_GIT_EEXISTS: Failed to stat file '
> F:/_personal/Pharo/images/Shaping 7.0 - 64bit
> (stable)/phar
[...]
Tonel (and FileTree) are representations and models of code.
Okay. Is one preferred?
> For now, I’ll settle for getting Iceberg to work reliably in 7.0.3. Are the
> best references on Iceberg the Pharo books or the Iceberg GitHub site? Which
> Iceberg material is most up-to-date
Monticello)?
No because the distance is too large. We cannot burn our two engineers on “nice
to have” when the “must have” is
not yet done.
Now migrating to iceberg is super easy and configurations are a lot simpler
than with monticello.
Stef
Shaping
approach and some
backward compatibility with Monticello (without encouraging new use of
Monticello)?
Shaping
h book are you referring to here?
Did you check the wiki and the documentation?
Yes, some. I’m thinking it’s Smalltalk and shouldn’t be that hard in any case.
But there is a lot of Git here, and that is complicating things somewhat.
Shaping
From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Ben
Coman
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 04:39
To: Pharo Development List
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] VM crash in Pharo 8.0 during save
On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 21:21, Shaping mailto:shap...@uurda.org> >
erred option going forward with
Git
and an option to access legacy code with Monticello.
Is Metacello going away?
Shaping
From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org
<mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org> ] On Behalf Of Ben Coman
Sent: Thursday, May 30,
On 30 May 2019, at 11:55, Shaping mailto:shap...@uurda.org>
> wrote:
7.0.3. It loaded after a fresh clone of pharo, but with a detached head.
So are you trying to actually contribute to Pharo? You don’t normally need to
reload pharo (if I’ve understood what you are doing). I
On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 23:08, Shaping mailto:shap...@uurda.org> > wrote:
I’m finding 7.0.3 to be more stable.
How do I load a specific baseline/version with Iceberg? I’m getting 8.0 by
default from the cloned local repo, and I prefer not to merge 7.0.3 with 8.0.
There ar
fragmented versioning-technologies will
persist then indefinitely.
Shaping
From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Ben
Coman
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 08:45
To: Pharo Development List
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] FW: Versioning with Iceberg
On Thu, 30
basics working. The problems may be related to not
using default install folders. I’m not sure yet.
Shaping
On 30 May 2019, at 02:07, Shaping mailto:shap...@uurda.org>
> wrote:
Sorry, I meant progress bar, not histo….
From: Shaping [mailto:shap...@uurda.org]
Sent: Wednes
Sorry, I meant progress bar, not histo….
From: Shaping [mailto:shap...@uurda.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 20:05
To: 'Pharo Development List'
Subject: RE: [Pharo-dev] Versioning with Iceberg
From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of
From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Ben
Coman
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 10:58
To: Pharo Development List
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioning with Iceberg
On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 23:08, Shaping mailto:shap...@uurda.org> > wrote:
I’m f
.
Its not completely clear what you want.
You can right-click a repo > Metacello > Install baseline of.
Or right-click a repo > Repository > Remotes
and select one of those branches to check out.
The baselines look specialized. I want Pharo 7.0.3, not just one package.
Shaping
…Trying to have 7.0.3 as my base, not 8.0. I’m not sure what happened with the
VM crash, but I can do without the latest version for now.
How do I specify the commit with Iceberg?
Shaping
From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of ducasse
Sent
.
Shaping
elated files left in the user account/Documents area.
I see something in the attached .dmp about a stack overflow.
I would enter this bug at https://pharo.fogbugz.com/, but I’m not sure it would
get quick attention there.
Shaping
crash.dmp
Description: Binary data
/Iceberg-glossary.md looks
like a good place to start, but I can probably find much better guidance here
on the list than from a Google search.
Thanks.
Shaping
From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Norbert
Hartl
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 04:32
(Second try in 6 days. Does anyone have recent performance data for Pharo 7
relative to VW 7.10 or later?)
From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Shaping
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 00:33
To: 'Pharo Development List'
Subject: [Pharo-dev] Pha
better. I’ve spend more time with it
last few weeks than during the previous decade. Thanks to everyone for the
effort and improvements.
Shaping
From: Shaping [mailto:shap...@uurda.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 00:41
To: 'Pharo Development List'
Subject: RE: [Pharo
rrect? Or, I could
just load every package I can find, before I check names. But that little
experiment has never gone well in the past.
Is the Pharo-with-namespaces issue dead or merely suspended, awaiting a more
fitting idea than what VW currently offers?
Shaping
On Tue, N
D
….
The class above is also from the Pharo 7 image. This is the largest of the
c-type FFIFloats. Any Float classes of this size and larger for the Smalltalk
heap on 64-bit Pharo?
Cheers,
Shaping
Le 6 nov. 2018 à 06:58, Shaping mailto:shap...@uurda.org> >
a éc
ood job of avoiding class-name collisions, which is
mostly what I need it for, and I can control exactly how imports work.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks.
Shaping
(Having domain problems recently. Please excuse this posting if you have
seen it twice. I've not seen it appear yet on the list.)
Can STON be extended to handle Doubles and ArbitraryPrecisionFloats?
Shaping
-Original Message-
From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.phar
Hi all.
What is the easiest way to port Zinc Websockets to VW? Has this been done?
Shaping
Can STON be extended to handle Doubles and ArbitraryPrecisionFloats?
Shaping
-Original Message-
From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of
David T. Lewis
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 14:58
To: Pharo Development List
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] The
Thank you , Alexandre. That's exactly what I needed to know. Adapting the
whisker plots should be straightforward.
Shaping
From: Alexandre Bergel [mailto:alexandre.ber...@me.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 3:47 PM
To: Pharo Development List
Cc: Any question about pharo is we
Hi Folks.
Can anyone tell me whether we have candlestick-charting ability in Roassal2?
Shaping
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