Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-08-22 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 18 Aug 2017, at 09:56, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> What I think would have been good is to list all the updates that where done >> between >> releasing 6.0 and 6.1 *as part of the changelog* of 6.1 (even though they >> were already >> in the image that you got

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-08-18 Thread Ben Coman
> Normally you have a CI that builds from the latest pharo image + the latest commit from your repo and you start with that all couple of days/weeks (This is important to make sure that you have a reproduce build, too). This is expected for production code, but maybe not the workflow for everyone

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-08-18 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Tim, > On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:08 AM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > Thanks Marcus - and definitely we all appreciate that its holiday season and > that a lot of this is driven by community and people donating their free time. > > I’m still a bit unclear on the moving parts. To

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-08-18 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 18 Aug 2017, at 15:41, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > If you don’t mind - let me try a second attempt at paraphrasing what you are > saying (just to make sure I’m clear, but it might help others too). > > We start each yearly cycle with an X0 new release (our current release

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-08-18 Thread Tim Mackinnon
If you don’t mind - let me try a second attempt at paraphrasing what you are saying (just to make sure I’m clear, but it might help others too). We start each yearly cycle with an X0 new release (our current release is 6). Then there may be point releases 6.1, 6.2 etc where there is a breaking

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-08-18 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 18 Aug 2017, at 13:08, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > Thanks Marcus - and definitely we all appreciate that its holiday season and > that a lot of this is driven by community and people donating their free time. > > I’m still a bit unclear on the moving parts. To paraphrase

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-08-18 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Thanks Marcus - and definitely we all appreciate that its holiday season and that a lot of this is driven by community and people donating their free time. I’m still a bit unclear on the moving parts. To paraphrase what you have said: We start each yearly cycle with a X.0 new release. Then

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-08-18 Thread Marcus Denker
> > What I think would have been good is to list all the updates that where done > between > releasing 6.0 and 6.1 *as part of the changelog* of 6.1 (even though they > were already > in the image that you got a minute before Pharo6.1 was released, as they > where released as > hot fixes

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-08-18 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 24 Jul 2017, at 15:11, Hilaire wrote: > > Thanks guys. > > I hope it includes the fixes for the bugs impacting Dr. Geo. > Hello, I think there is a bit of a confusion of how we do fixed for Pharo6. I will explain: -> if people find bugs, they end up on the issue

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-29 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Just go to the world menu -> "System" -> "About" and check that you have           Pharo 6.0 Latest update: #60510 which was the latest update including the mentioned Iceberg change. So image number #60510 and onwards is Pharo 6.1. (image are at http://files.pharo.org/image/60/).   If you

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-29 Thread Tim Mackinnon
This is perhaps an item we can add to the "community" 7 roadmap. Surely we can all kick in something that can help automate a release with updated version numbers. And we free up time for the engineers (need a better name for this) to do harder heavy lifting for us? Tim Sent from my iPhone

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-29 Thread serge . stinckwich
One of my students was confused also. Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 29 juil. 2017 à 09:50, Volkert a écrit : > > > >> On 29.07.2017 10:39, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >>> On 29 Jul 2017, at 10:07, Volkert wrote: >>> >>> Cool. How do i figure out, if i

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-29 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 29 Jul 2017, at 10:50, Volkert wrote: > > > > On 29.07.2017 10:39, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >>> On 29 Jul 2017, at 10:07, Volkert >> > wrote: >>> >>> Cool. How do i figure out, if i have installed 6.1? The Welcome

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-29 Thread Volkert
On 29.07.2017 10:39, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> On 29 Jul 2017, at 10:07, Volkert > > wrote: >> >> Cool. How do i figure out, if i have installed 6.1? The Welcome Page >> shows 6.0? >> >> i used ... >> >> wget -O- get.pharo.org/stable+vm

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-29 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 29 Jul 2017, at 10:07, Volkert wrote: > > Cool. How do i figure out, if i have installed 6.1? The Welcome Page shows > 6.0? > > i used ... > wget -O- get.pharo.org/stable+vm | bash > Ubuntu 16.10 > LG, > > Volkert > yes, you have 6.1 believe it or not, the cost of

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-29 Thread Volkert
Cool. How do i figure out, if i have installed 6.1? The Welcome Page shows 6.0? i used ... wget -O- get.pharo.org/stable+vm | bash Ubuntu 16.10 LG, Volkert On 24.07.2017 13:56, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > > We are releasing Pharo 6.1. > Usually, between each major version we just

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-27 Thread Hilaire
Thanks Nicolai Hilaire Le 26/07/2017 à 17:07, Nicolai Hess a écrit : whatever, put a slice for this case into the inbox SLICE-Issue-20166-wrong-cliprect-on-transformed-athens-canvas-NicolaiHess.1 -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-27 Thread Hilaire
Le 26/07/2017 à 16:42, Nicolai Hess a écrit : It is ok if we tell hilaire to not just put bugreports on the ml but create a bug report on fogbugz instead. So people can fix/provide a slice and run the validation. And this is what I do But this happend in this case. It is just that we do

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-27 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Athens is part of Pharo and the priority is to make it work for Pharo. If there are other users of such a core technology, they should be the ones adapting. @Alex Syrel: could you please take a look at the latest commits from Athens and clarify their state? Cheers, Doru > On Jul 26,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-27 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Hilaire wrote: > If you read carefully what I wrote, I was wondering what were these small > bugs fixes... and if P6.1 would be helpful for the drgeo problems: a list > of bugs with links to the bug tracker will have been enough. > > ​I guess

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-27 Thread Hilaire
If you read carefully what I wrote, I was wondering what were these small bugs fixes... and if P6.1 would be helpful for the drgeo problems: a list of bugs with links to the bug tracker will have been enough. Hilaire Le 26/07/2017 à 16:25, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : People are nice and

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Nicolai Athens is important for us too. Now none of us in the team has the experience in Cairo. Users of Athens usually do not want to invest understanding it either. I tried to create the conditions that Igor could stay in the communautee but it failed because alone I could not do it. Now

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-26 Thread Nicolai Hess
2017-07-26 16:42 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess : > > > 2017-07-26 16:25 GMT+02:00 Stephane Ducasse : > >> I imagine that hot-fixes means when we found a serious bug in the >> alpha version and see that it is also in the previous version. >> >> Now Hilaire

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-26 Thread Nicolai Hess
2017-07-26 16:25 GMT+02:00 Stephane Ducasse : > I imagine that hot-fixes means when we found a serious bug in the > alpha version and see that it is also in the previous version. > > Now Hilaire if you want a change to be integrated in Pharo and Pharo > 60 for example. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I imagine that hot-fixes means when we found a serious bug in the alpha version and see that it is also in the previous version. Now Hilaire if you want a change to be integrated in Pharo and Pharo 60 for example. - we should have a bug entry on fogbugz (you see when I read the emails I do not

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-25 Thread Hilaire
Hi, It is the other minor bugs fixes details which were missing. What is hot-fixes? Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 25 Jul 2017, at 17:29, Hilaire wrote: > > As the P6.1 change log is not complete enough I have to try out to discover: > > - fix for PNG regression is included > > - the Athen Wrap regression is still present :( > is very complete. Is just that it does not has so many

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-25 Thread Hilaire
As the P6.1 change log is not complete enough I have to try out to discover: - fix for PNG regression is included - the Athen Wrap regression is still present :( Le 25/07/2017 à 08:59, Hilaire a écrit : Meaning these tow ones ?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-25 Thread Hilaire
Meaning these tow ones ? http://forum.world.st/Regression-with-PNGReaderWriter-in-P6-td4951796.html#a4952046 http://forum.world.st/WrapAthen-World-coordinate-td4951750.html#a4951966 Hilaire Le 24/07/2017 à 15:11, Hilaire a écrit : I hope it includes the fixes for the bugs impacting Dr. Geo.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-24 Thread Alistair Grant
Hi Thierry, On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 10:23:49PM +0200, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Le 24/07/2017 ?? 17:05, Alistair Grant a ??crit : > >For Ubuntu users, the updated snap is also available: > > > >sudo snap install pharo --classic --candidate > > Hi Alistair, > > how one update the pharo snap (from

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-24 Thread Tim Mackinnon
This is a great step to show we have a stable consistent base for the year ahead - thanks for pulling this off! One small caveat on the 64bit angle - there are still some known outstanding bugs with 64bits - meaning that Fuel is known not to work (which might be for more specialised things -

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-24 Thread Alistair Grant
For Ubuntu users, the updated snap is also available: sudo snap install pharo --classic --candidate Cheers, Alistair P.S. Should this message be sent to pharo-users as well? On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 01:56:20PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > > We are releasing Pharo 6.1. > Usually,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-24 Thread Hilaire
Thanks guys. I hope it includes the fixes for the bugs impacting Dr. Geo. Hilaire Le 24/07/2017 à 13:56, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : We are releasing Pharo -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Thank you, sounds like a really cool move. > On 24 Jul 2017, at 13:56, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > Hi, > > We are releasing Pharo 6.1. > Usually, between each major version we just apply bugfixes changing the build > number and not announcing new versions but this time

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Great job! Doru > On Jul 24, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > Hi, > > We are releasing Pharo 6.1. > Usually, between each major version we just apply bugfixes changing the build > number and not announcing new versions but this time is different since

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, We are releasing Pharo 6.1. Usually, between each major version we just apply bugfixes changing the build number and not announcing new versions but this time is different since the fixes applied required a new VM. The principal reason for the new version is to update Iceberg support,