Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-20 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > Do we even need "Composable" in the name? Why not just "SpecModel" or "SpecUIModel"? Btw there's also DynamicComposableModel.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-20 Thread Johan Fabry
> On Feb 20, 2015, at 12:07, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote >> If the goal is avoiding confusion to data model classes... > > Do we even need "Composable" in the name? This is relevant from a "where we > came from" standpoint, but to a new user, maybe it can be documen

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote > If the goal is avoiding confusion to data model classes... Do we even need "Composable" in the name? This is relevant from a "where we came from" standpoint, but to a new user, maybe it can be documented without adding 10 characters to the class name... - Chee

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-20 Thread Henrik Johansen
> On 20 Feb 2015, at 12:23 , Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2015-02-19 23:24 GMT+01:00 Johan Fabry >: > > The problem is that people are confused by the term Model, so they will also > be confused by Logic. I want to remove the confusion and make clear that it > i

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-20 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > However, reflecting all of this in the name, ComposableModel, makes it > unclear what it is for. > >From "Seamless Composition and Reuse of Customizable User Interfaces with Spec" ( http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/archives/papers/Ryse13a-SCICO-Spec.pdf ) UI Element: an interactive graphical elemen

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-19 Thread Johan Fabry
Well, yes, I know what it is, I know about the building block idea behind it, and I know about the reusability. However, reflecting all of this in the name, ComposableModel, makes it unclear what it is for. This is what I got as feedback of people: they did not even understand that this is what

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-19 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-02-19 23:24 GMT+01:00 Johan Fabry : > > The problem is that people are confused by the term Model, so they will > also be confused by Logic. I want to remove the confusion and make clear > that it is a user interface (and that it is composable by default) -> > ComposableUI. > > It could also

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-19 Thread nacho
Or you can define a new standard by renaming it ComposableSpec ;) - Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spec-terminology-renaming-some-terms-tp4806486p4806574.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing lis

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-19 Thread Johan Fabry
The problem is that people are confused by the term Model, so they will also be confused by Logic. I want to remove the confusion and make clear that it is a user interface (and that it is composable by default) -> ComposableUI. It could also be ComposableUserInterface but we do not win anythin

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-19 Thread stepharo
I know :) So may be Logic because this is the logic of the application. Stef Le 19/2/15 18:16, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : Well, it means User Interface ;-) The thing that got everybody confused is precisely the word Model, if we keep that the confusion will continue. On 19 Feb 2015, at

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-19 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Well, it means User Interface ;-) The thing that got everybody confused is precisely the word Model, if we keep that the confusion will continue. > On 19 Feb 2015, at 18:11, stepharo wrote: > > Hi Johan > > For me UI does not mean anything. > So may be ComposableUIModel? > Or ComposableUILogi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-19 Thread stepharo
Hi Johan For me UI does not mean anything. So may be ComposableUIModel? Or ComposableUILogic Stef Le 19/2/15 13:22, Johan Fabry a écrit : Hi all, I don’t read mails on pharo-dev usually, so sorry if this has been discussed before (and then pointers to the discussion would be appreciated).

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-19 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Ben Coman wrote > Thanks for this Johan. +1 - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spec-terminology-renaming-some-terms-tp4806486p4806516.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-19 Thread Ben Coman
Thanks for this Johan. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > You got my vote. > > > On 19 Feb 2015, at 13:22, Johan Fabry wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I don’t read mails on pharo-dev usually, so sorry if this has been > discussed before (and then pointers to the disc

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-19 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
You got my vote. > On 19 Feb 2015, at 13:22, Johan Fabry wrote: > > Hi all, > > I don’t read mails on pharo-dev usually, so sorry if this has been discussed > before (and then pointers to the discussion would be appreciated). > > Last week, in Pharo-users I proposed the Spec terminology chang

[Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-19 Thread Johan Fabry
Hi all, I don’t read mails on pharo-dev usually, so sorry if this has been discussed before (and then pointers to the discussion would be appreciated). Last week, in Pharo-users I proposed the Spec terminology changes below. Responses were positive. I am willing to volunteer to do that next wee