Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-09 Thread stepharo
So it is clear that we need configurations that will be created and managed automatically and will enable swapping of repositories. We had already several discussions on this theme and from my point of view we need: - own separate repository for every semi-external project. So something

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-09 Thread Nicolai Hess
2016-06-09 16:32 GMT+02:00 stepharo : > I have a mental block to contributing to part of Pharo maintained in >> external repositories. Maybe its unreasonable, but it just *feels* >> like too much friction. If I've worked on an issue, I. just. want. >> to. submit. it! >> > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > > 2016-06-08 19:40 GMT+02:00 stepharo : >> >> ***THANKS*** Pavel. >> >> Yes it is the best way to make sure that nobody wants to work at this >> level. We discussed this problem during the last

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-09 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Cargo will not fix the dependency mess. maybe it will be easy the process, but it will not fix the real problem: we have a system that’s not made in a modular way. We are working hard to make it possible, but until we finish that there will be fixes that will touch more than one “module” and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-09 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 09 Jun 2016, at 10:03, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > So does we all agree to commit fixes for external packages by slices without > new configs? that would break the bootstrap process, so no. Esteban > > 2016-06-09 9:42 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-09 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > We cannot do that right now. I hope that we will replace configurations with > Cargo. When Cargo will be deployed ? -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-09 Thread Pavel Krivanek
We cannot do that right now. I hope that we will replace configurations with Cargo. -- Pavel 2016-06-09 10:03 GMT+02:00 Denis Kudriashov : > So does we all agree to commit fixes for external packages by slices > without new configs? > > 2016-06-09 9:42 GMT+02:00 Pavel

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-09 Thread Denis Kudriashov
So does we all agree to commit fixes for external packages by slices without new configs? 2016-06-09 9:42 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek : > > > 2016-06-08 19:40 GMT+02:00 stepharo : > >> ***THANKS*** Pavel. >> >> Yes it is the best way to make sure that

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-09 Thread Pavel Krivanek
2016-06-08 19:40 GMT+02:00 stepharo : > ***THANKS*** Pavel. > > Yes it is the best way to make sure that nobody wants to work at this > level. We discussed this problem during the last board meeting. This is why > I proposed the following process. > > When the core Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-08 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 08/06/16 11:05, Pavel Krivanek wrote: In ideal state you should create new versions of the configurations Hi Pavel, please take a look at my earlier contributions on this subject. This is a solved problem. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-08 Thread Dale Henrichs
One of the reasons that Versionner may not have been supporting baselines is that the MetacelloToolBox support for BaselineOf was not up to snuff. A couple of weeks ago I added additional support for updating a BaselineOf[1]. If additional features/support is needed from the MetacelloToolBox

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-08 Thread stepharo
***THANKS*** Pavel. Yes it is the best way to make sure that nobody wants to work at this level. We discussed this problem during the last board meeting. This is why I proposed the following process. When the core Pharo developers are in need to change a package they should do it without

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-08 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Andrei Chis wrote > Did you edited the configurations and their dependencies by hand? Since > some time I never update them by hand, only use versioner [Reminder]: Anyone using Git (like me for all my personal projects) can not use Versionner because it does not handle Baselines. This will become

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-08 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 08 Jun 2016, at 11:13, Andrei Chis wrote: > > Just a quick comment. > Did you edited the configurations and their dependencies by hand? Since some > time I never update them by hand, only use versioner to generate a new > version for

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-08 Thread Pavel Krivanek
2016-06-08 11:13 GMT+02:00 Andrei Chis : > Hi Pavel, > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Pavel Krivanek > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> we had in the system circular package dependency between Catalog and >> GTools and we decided to solve it by

Re: [Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-08 Thread Andrei Chis
Hi Pavel, On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Hi, > > we had in the system circular package dependency between Catalog and > GTools and we decided to solve it by simple moving of one method from one > package to other one. However, these two

[Pharo-dev] Story of one small fix

2016-06-08 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi, we had in the system circular package dependency between Catalog and GTools and we decided to solve it by simple moving of one method from one package to other one. However, these two packages are external packages managed by configurations. That means that we needed move the method, save