On 25 October 2013 10:52, Norbert Hartl wrote:
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>> On 23 October 2013 23:13, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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Am 24.10.2013 um 12:51 schrieb Igor Stasenko :
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> On 24 October 2013 08:24, Norbert Hartl wrote:
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Igor
this is not the point. People do not understand that code can be represented as
text :)
If I save assembly in XML is it XML or assembly.
I think that if you have a dll whose contents does not change then it is ok.
Stef
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> Ok I was not aware you were thinking about that. So this is good to have this
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> Yes, this is actually what we discussed recently with Esteban about possible
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> low-hanging fruits :)
I like these ones :)
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On 24 October 2013 08:24, Norbert Hartl wrote:
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>> Yes, i am happily using it for Cairo and it lets me customize /
> Am 23.10.2013 um 23:28 schrieb Igor Stasenko :
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>> On 23 October 2013 23:13, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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On 23 October 2013 23:13, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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> Well implementing ARM-FFI is largely orthogonal to Athens.
> Yes, i am happily using it for Cairo and it lets me customize /rethink
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> without need to touch VM. Which means much faster development process and
> feedback et
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> Well implementing ARM-FFI is largely orthogonal to Athens.
> Yes, i am happily using it for Cairo and it lets me customize /rethink things
> as they go
> without need to touch VM. Which means much faster development process and
> feedback etc.
> But since Athens API is settled down more
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> Igor it also means that we should find a way to get nativeboost wroking on
> iPad (probably by generating a "DLL" from NB).
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> aha.. and digitally sign it before you can use it.. and then ask nicely Apple
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Yes :)
I think the future concerning user interaction is thought reading devices. They
are already at consumer level being able to perform basic brain wave scans for
simple interactions even providing open source SDKs and relatively low cost at
300 euros taking into consideration that they are cutting
On 23 October 2013 16:04, Henrik Johansen wrote:
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> On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
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> For the ipad , best would be to implement a quartz backend for athens.
> As a temporary solution we could try to compile cairo l
On 23 October 2013 13:52, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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> On 22 October 2013 16:09, J.F. Rick wrote:
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>> I'm excited about the upcoming move to Athens graphics and would like to
>> support that effort. It seems like the base is still under hea
On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:52 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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>> For the ipad , best would be to implement a quartz backend for athens.
>> As a temporary solution we could try to compile cairo library for it, but i
>> am not expert in iOS
>> t
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> Mouse i much more precise than fingers. I doubt it going to be replaced. I
> think it will stay.
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"When we were an agrarian nation, all cars were trucks because that’s what
you needed on the farms. But cars eventually became more prevalent
On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
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> On 22 October 2013 16:09, J.F. Rick wrote:
> I'm excited about the upcoming move to Athens graphics and would like to
> support that effort. It seems like the base is still under heavy development
> and that I should use an up-to-date Pha
On 23 October 2013 08:12, J.F. Rick wrote:
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>> The latest Pharo vms for all 3 major platforms support Athens with Cairo
>> as backend.
>> It is our starting point, one day we might choose to have different
>> backend(s), like opengl etc.
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> The latest Pharo vms for all 3 major platforms support Athens with Cairo
> as backend.
> It is our starting point, one day we might choose to have different
> backend(s), like opengl etc.
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Excellent. I'm mainly using Linux.
> For the ipa
On 22 October 2013 16:09, J.F. Rick wrote:
> I'm excited about the upcoming move to Athens graphics and would like to
> support that effort. It seems like the base is still under heavy
> development and that I should use an up-to-date Pharo 3.0 to properly use
> it. Let me know if that is incorre
I'm excited about the upcoming move to Athens graphics and would like to
support that effort. It seems like the base is still under heavy
development and that I should use an up-to-date Pharo 3.0 to properly use
it. Let me know if that is incorrect.
I was wondering for what VMs Athens is applicabl
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