2008/9/25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I've stabilised the changes I was working on so now's a reasonable
> time for me to look at this if it's still required. Is it?
>
> Exupery already needs VMs for all major platforms, so I'm thinking
> about merging that requirement with what Pharo needs. I can bu
I've stabilised the changes I was working on so now's a reasonable
time for me to look at this if it's still required. Is it?
Exupery already needs VMs for all major platforms, so I'm thinking
about merging that requirement with what Pharo needs. I can build
Linux VMs easily as it's my main devel
The new and easy way to load Seaside takes up to 10 steps (see below).
We should try to make this even less painful in Pharo. I assume,
having Universes pre-loaded will already reduce half of the steps, but
how can it be further simplified?
Adrian
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Stef,
Given a willingness to slip (either date or feature list) if the system
is unstable, a deadline is great.
Bill
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On Sep 24, 2008, at 22:08 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
I will work using the pinesoft etoy removal package.
But it can take time to do that carefully since etoy put its fingers
everywhere.
Now I would really like that we define a date for the first release.
I would really like to have
> something I would love to have.
> is a means to know whether a method is defined in multiple class or only
> the one I'm browsing.
There is the annotation panel (to enable in the preferences) that
shows this and other similar information. It slows everything down
though.
Cheers,
Lukas
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not to mention the packages that were the point of demo :)
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: (352) 273-
Hi guys
I will work using the pinesoft etoy removal package.
But it can take time to do that carefully since etoy put its fingers
everywhere.
Now I would really like that we define a date for the first release.
I would really like to have something for maximum end of october.
What about you?
Further to what I said earlier: it's not pasting from OSX - it was the
string I copied in the "bare" image that would paste happily into the
Pharo image.
Cheers,
S
On 24 Sep 2008, at 20:57, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
thanks for the report.
I guess that marcus will look into that. I do not kno
I removed ComponentLikeModel.
Tomorrow morning we will applied our tools on pharo and start to fix
package cycles.
Stef going to bed :)
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thanks for the report.
I guess that marcus will look into that. I do not know how he made the
one click precisely.
Stef
Well, I'm using the one-click image from this thread (from here: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/7268/Pharo0.1-PolymorphTT.zip)
, so I presume it's running a VM
Yes I saw
Now I imagine that we want to get rid of Project too.
I ask because I was looking at EmbeddedWorld
Stef
no. I only purged the data, which means it does not load anymore.
(there is a fix for that on the bugtracker).
Marcus
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2008/9/24 Marcus Denker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On 24.09.2008, at 20:14, Bill Schwab wrote:
>
>> Lukas,
>>
>> That's fine if my hands are on the keyboard, but if I have one on the
>> mouse (common when browsing), then (in Dolphin at least), I end up
>> either right clicking on a class in an open b
On 24.09.2008, at 21:31, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi marcus
did you remove squeakmap already?
no. I only purged the data, which means it does not load anymore.
(there is a fix for that on the bugtracker).
Marcus
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On 24.09.2008, at 21:27, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
We are in sync then
I think that morphic will be quite small once we will get done with
it. :)
I will release ComponentLikeModel removal
BTW scriptEditorMoprh is not in etoy package but it smells like it.
I think that I will try to remove i
On 24 Sep 2008, at 20:21, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi folks. This thread is a bit stale now, but Gary and I were
playing with getting our latest web app installed on this Pharo
image - plus of course our in-house tools that Gary's built.
Excellent!
I run a Mac (unlike everybody else in the
Hi marcus
did you remove squeakmap already?
Stef
On Sep 21, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
-> SqueakMap stores 1.5MB of crap in the image. make changeset that
removes SqueakMap from the image.
(check SqueakMap default purge)
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We are in sync then
I think that morphic will be quite small once we will get done with
it. :)
I will release ComponentLikeModel removal
BTW scriptEditorMoprh is not in etoy package but it smells like it. I
think that I will try to remove it too.
What do you think?
Stef
On Sep 24, 2008,
Hi folks. This thread is a bit stale now, but Gary and I were
playing with getting our latest web app installed on this Pharo
image - plus of course our in-house tools that Gary's built.
Excellent!
I run a Mac (unlike everybody else in the office) and my clipboard
is no longer working.
On 24.09.2008, at 21:03, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi
I'm reading
innocuousName
allKnownNames
allSubmorphNamesDo:
and friends
It seems to me that Morph submorph elements could be given names
from the user interface and
this would define automatically instan
Hi folks. This thread is a bit stale now, but Gary and I were playing
with getting our latest web app installed on this Pharo image - plus
of course our in-house tools that Gary's built.
I run a Mac (unlike everybody else in the office) and my clipboard is
no longer working. In other words,
On 24.09.2008, at 20:14, Bill Schwab wrote:
Lukas,
That's fine if my hands are on the keyboard, but if I have one on the
mouse (common when browsing), then (in Dolphin at least), I end up
either right clicking on a class in an open browser, or hitting a
toolbar button. For the more obscure to
Hi
I'm reading
innocuousName
allKnownNames
allSubmorphNamesDo:
and friends
It seems to me that Morph submorph elements could be given names from
the user interface and
this would define automatically instance variables or something like
that with the given na
Hi david
something I would love to have.
is a means to know whether a method is defined in multiple class or
only the one I'm browsing.
Because I'm always doing alt M and closing the window... when reading
foreign code that I'm cleaning.
Stef
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Lukas,
That's fine if my hands are on the keyboard, but if I have one on the
mouse (common when browsing), then (in Dolphin at least), I end up
either right clicking on a class in an open browser, or hitting a
toolbar button. For the more obscure tools, the shell menus (Tools) do
the trick. Shor
> I like the way they are in dev images. You move the mouse to the right
> side of the image and the flap opens. From there, you can drag&drop
> your favorite tool. Do you have any faster way to open a browser or a
> transcript?
Ctrl+B and Ctrl+T
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Hi,
If you look at Object:
Object numberOfMethods 449
Object linesOfCode 2356
I have somehow the feeling that there is some other stuff that we should
remove before thinking about removing equality...
Marcus
On 24.09.2008, at 18:14, Bill Schwab wrote:
I have always seen defaulting e
I have always seen defaulting equality to identity to be a useful
confusion, and I fear it would simply be copied down (often in
frustration) into many classes vs. done once. It also removes a
compatibility with other Smalltalks, which I think we should be working
to maintain and enhance where it
Hi david
To browse traits used in a given class, we have this fourth switch
next to instance / ? / class, called 'traits'. Clicking on it then
lists in the next column all traits used in this class and the class
itself. This additional column duplicates the switches
instance / ? / class.
Now THAT'S a reason for us to remove them!!! :)
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: (352) 273-6785
FAX: (352) 392-7029
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/08 9:07 AM >>>
On Wed, Sep 24,
Hi Torsten,
this crashes the browser for traits. I think #browserIcon returning nil
is also required in Trait/TraitDescription class. At least this works for me
then.
oh, yes, sure, thanks!
OB-Enhancements-dr.212 fixes this.
David
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David,
this crashes the browser for traits. I think #browserIcon returning nil
is also required in Trait/TraitDescription class. At least this works for me
then.
Bye
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But otherwise I agree, I will impl. means to let the entities decide
on the icon they will get.
Yes this is important that the class get its word
ok.
You can now (as of OB-Enhancements-dr.211) implement a method #browserIcon on the
class-side of any class you want and let this method return
Hi guys,
I recently discovered Pharo project and I'd like to fire a proposal for
cleaning Object class.
The "simple" idea is to remove equality concept (implemented with #= and
#hash messages) from Object.
Equality means that different instances can represent the same value
(like Numbers, Strin
Damien wrote
>Do you have any faster way to open a browser or a transcript?
Hit Cmd+b for browser and Cmd+t for transcript. ;)
Bye
Torsten
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> Where is the text and who should get a signed copy?
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/LicenseAgreement. Send that to Stéphane.
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On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Damien Cassou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would like to know what do we decided for Flaps?
>
> I like the way they are in dev images. You move the mouse to the right
> side of the i
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to know what do we decided for Flaps?
I like the way they are in dev images. You move the mouse to the right
side of the image and the flap opens. From there, you can drag&drop
your favorite tool. Do you ha
Hi,
I'm not terribly happy with the current traits integration in OB.
To browse traits used in a given class, we have this fourth switch next to instance /
? / class, called 'traits'. Clicking on it then lists in the next column all traits
used in this class and the class itself. This addition
Hi Stef,
that's me. It was just a basic test for committing to pharo income (just
categorized
an uncategorized method). You can drop the version and categorize
the method yourself with a different name meanwhile (so actually it's not a
license
issue). Sorry for the confusion.
Signed an agreem
On 24.09.2008, at 13:55, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
we are applying our tools on pharo :)
and I would like to know what do we decided for Flaps?
I thought that we will remove this class.
Yes, remove. Instead we should have a normal pull-down menu.
(Like NewSpeak). And that actually shou
Hi guys
there is a Kernel-tbn in pharoInbox
and this is important for us to know who is the person since we want
him to sign the agreement
(even if pubishing in the repository means that you license the code
under MIT).
Stef
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> we are applying our tools on pharo :)
> and I would like to know what do we decided for Flaps?
> I thought that we will remove this class.
Yes, please remove the flaps. I always hide them anyway.
Lukas
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we are applying our tools on pharo :)
and I would like to know what do we decided for Flaps?
I thought that we will remove this class.
Stef
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>> I think I found a bug :
> I think I've fixed it -
> http://www.squeaksource.com/shout/ShoutWorkspace.1-tween.4.mcz
Indeed, thank you very much.
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It's here -
http://www.squeaksource.com/shout/ShoutWorkspace.1-tween.3.mcz
I think I found a bug :
1- Open a shout workspace
2- Activate sy
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> It's here - http://www.squeaksource.com/shout/ShoutWorkspace.1-tween.3.mcz
I think I found a bug :
1- Open a shout workspace
2- Activate syntax highlighting
3- Type any non smalltalk text ('etekjkldg' for example)
4- It
What about using the left *and* also the right side of the method list
to show icons...
If we could use the right side for "optionnal" icons, that would be
still readable and we could have more icons.
yes, but it gets very confusing when you have icons on the left and on the
right.
And when
What about using the left *and* also the right side of the method list
to show icons...
If we could use the right side for "optionnal" icons, that would be
still readable and we could have more icons.
Just a thought.
Cédrick
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Some moments 'clear'!? From thier site?
"Sophie... Developed by Astea in collaboration with Impara GmbH..."
.
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm, maybe before blaming people, you should make some moments clear?
>
> For reading from their site http://
On 24.09.2008, at 09:02, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Thanks.
Another problem with real atomic loading.
Stef
Hi Stef,
there is nothing special with the two change sets except their
fileIn order, since instances of Character are used while both of
them are loaded and compiled ...
The 3.10 r
maybe Pharo would have change that ?
I don't know if we can blame people from beeing scared by squeak ;)
I really think this is important Sophie continue to evolve to show
Java is not the way to go. After seaside, this could be the second
main ST project developped with it...
My 2 cents.
Cédrick
this is not the way politics works.
Apparently the founder was ready to found anything but squeak.
Strange no.
Stef
On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
Hmm, maybe before blaming people, you should make some moments clear?
For reading from their site http://asteasolutions.com/
-
Thanks.
Another problem with real atomic loading.
Stef
Hi Stef,
there is nothing special with the two change sets except their
fileIn order, since instances of Character are used while both of
them are loaded and compiled ...
The 3.10 release team attempted to make .mcz out of them but f
May be we should add this info in a class comment.
This is why I should continue to work on this idea of a manisfesto per
package.
Stef
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On Tue, 2008-09-23 at
Yes
On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
I like it. I think this is a good compromise.
Adrian
On Sep 23, 2008, at 21:47 , Andrew Tween wrote:
Attached is a fileout of the Shout Workspace class, modified so
that the Syntax Highlighting can be toggled from the title bar menu.
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Attached is a fileout of the Shout Workspace class, modified so that the
Syntax Highlighting can be toggled from the title bar menu.
see attache
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