Re: [Pharo-project] Impressed, overwhelmed, and a little confused

2008-12-03 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Bill Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Pharo 1.0 takes shape, what is the plan for getting packages loaded the way each of us wants? Is Installer the preferred route? Would I be expected to script it (I find myself hoping so - load the latest of this, that,

Re: [Pharo-project] About ecompletion

2008-12-03 Thread Simon Denier
Hi guys This is something really interesting to me so if you dont have time, I can take a look at it, either to the paper or the code if Romain can put it somewhere. David, do you have some pointers about the recent modification list in OB? As a newcomer, I dont know who is the

Re: [Pharo-project] About ecompletion

2008-12-03 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Simon Denier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a newcomer, I dont know who is the developper/maintainer for eCompletion. There is no maintainer of eCompletion actually. Ruben Bakker implemented it. I have write access to the repository if you have something to commit.

[Pharo-project] Fwd: do you have a todo for the new compiler

2008-12-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Begin forwarded message: From: Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: December 3, 2008 12:30:37 PM CEST To: Stéphane Ducasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: do you have a todo for the new compiler On 29.11.2008, at 20:23, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi marcus several people asked me today how

Re: [Pharo-project] about vm dropping privileges

2008-12-03 Thread Damien Pollet
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 02:19, Alexandre Bergel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But we could imagine that the root password is necessary to open the port. Now, the root password is necessary to give all permissions to the process, whereas only opening once the port 80 is necessary. I am sure a better

Re: [Pharo-project] Impressed, overwhelmed, and a little confused

2008-12-03 Thread Bill Schwab
Damien, SqueakMap appears to be absent from that list - I had missed that. I just took another run at it, bypassing the one-click image, and the package loader was happier. Update the list from the net, and it seems to work. Shout complained about dependencies, but since it is on the list, I

[Pharo-project] Polymorph password dialog enhancement

2008-12-03 Thread Torsten Bergmann
please use the issue tracker The mail was intended for Gary to review and include the changes into the normal PM package (with the list as CC). He is the only one with commit rights on the SqSrc project and pharo is also useable from standard Squeak. If he accepts it we just have to integrate

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Missing #dispatchResultsIntoHistory

2008-12-03 Thread David Röthlisberger
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Alexandre Bergel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to make sure that I fully understand your email. Are you suggesting the history feature should be integrated into the Standard SUnit? I haven't got the time to check what is in [EMAIL PROTECTED] yet. I hope to do

[Pharo-project] Re: Missing #dispatchResultsIntoHistory

2008-12-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
So, it seems that adding an empty dispatchResultsIntoHistory in [EMAIL PROTECTED] will prevent having two versions of OBCmdTestClass I will do it in a minutes... Alexandre On 3 Dec 2008, at 10:53, Damien Cassou wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Alexandre Bergel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Pharo-project] Seaside29 and pharo

2008-12-03 Thread Torsten Bergmann
David, dont use the changeset. If you have the latest pharo image (#10185) you can use use ScriptManager loadSeaside29 to get the latest. Note: before running that just remove the line in this method that installs RSS-Squeak-Core. This package was kicked on Monday by pmm (see [1]). An

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Missing #dispatchResultsIntoHistory

2008-12-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
The problem we are facing right now is that OB-Enhancements is at the moment dependent on a particular version of SUnit, one that contains these history enhancements. As OB-Enhancements is supposed to work in Pharo and Squeak, we can now either update the SUnit version in Squeak-dev to

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph password dialog enhancement

2008-12-03 Thread Gary Chambers
Well, I will try to maintain things such that Polymorph is compatible with both for now (an extra package for Squeak). If Markus can let me know the differences I'll move the affected methods out. As for the PasswordDialogWindow... just putting in now. Reworked to be more in keeping with

Re: [Pharo-project] a bug with Installer

2008-12-03 Thread jannik.laval.gmail
Ok, it works with the last version. Now, I have a problem with the method browse: Installer ss project:'Installer'; browse: 'InstallerAll'. The browser open on the class Loading.MCVersionLoader. Is there any reason ? Thanks Jannik Le 2 déc. 08 à 21:20, Keith Hodges a écrit :

[Pharo-project] Polymorph password dialog enhancement

2008-12-03 Thread Torsten Bergmann
multiply it by a factor of 100. Then you get to what the current state is in Squeak. You dont have to tell me. Since I know Squeak since Version 1.0 and later (see [1]) the factor I would apply would definitely be greater than 100 ;) Yes. The bug-tracker is like a TODO list. OK:

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph password dialog enhancement

2008-12-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 03.12.2008, at 15:33, Torsten Bergmann wrote: It's not a question of compatibility, the question is where will Polymorph be continued - in SqS/Pharo or SqS/UIEnhancements or both? I didnt notice (until now) that the integrated plymorph packages are now also in the SqS/Pharo repository.

Re: [Pharo-project] About ecompletion

2008-12-03 Thread Simon Denier
On 3 déc. 08, at 13:38, Damien Cassou wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Simon Denier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a newcomer, I dont know who is the developper/maintainer for eCompletion. There is no maintainer of eCompletion actually. Ruben Bakker implemented it. I have write access

Re: [Pharo-project] a bug with Installer

2008-12-03 Thread Keith Hodges
jannik.laval.gmail wrote: Ok, it works with the last version. Now, I have a problem with the method browse: Installer ss project:'Installer'; browse: 'InstallerAll'. The browser open on the class Loading.MCVersionLoader. Is there any reason ? Thanks Jannik The reason being that earlier

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph password dialog enhancement

2008-12-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 03.12.2008, at 15:49, Gary Chambers wrote: Well, I will try to maintain things such that Polymorph is compatible with both for now (an extra package for Squeak). If Markus can let me know the differences I'll move the affected methods out. 1) FileList2 is gone. the method

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Missing #dispatchResultsIntoHistory

2008-12-03 Thread David Röthlisberger
Thanks, Alex, but shouldn't it read: ifSUnitSupportHistory: aBlock (TestResult includesSelector: #updateResultsInHistory) ifTrue: [aBlock value] Because in your version aBlock never gets executed, not even when #updateResultsInHistory exists. Can you check? David The comment is:

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Missing #dispatchResultsIntoHistory

2008-12-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
You're right, sorry about that. Fixed. Alexandre On 3 Dec 2008, at 16:59, David Röthlisberger wrote: Thanks, Alex, but shouldn't it read: ifSUnitSupportHistory: aBlock (TestResult includesSelector: #updateResultsInHistory) ifTrue: [aBlock value] Because in your version aBlock never

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello configuration still broken

2008-12-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yes but when we load a package we load the package and its extensions and in Pharo we take care about that. Stef On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:02 AM, Keith Hodges wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote: It depends on what is inside MC1.5 It should not. When you load a package you load all the extensions.

Re: [Pharo-project] about vm dropping privileges

2008-12-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
then lukas what you wrote in the book does not describe the correct problem. Because when I read I thought it was a problem of the Smalltalk VM To listen on port 80, the standard port used by the HTTP protocol, the web server needs to run as root. Running a public service as root

Re: [Pharo-project] Impressed, overwhelmed, and a little confused

2008-12-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
There will be a pharo universe I imagine. Stef On Dec 3, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Bill Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Pharo 1.0 takes shape, what is the plan for getting packages loaded the way each of us wants? Is Installer the preferred

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph password dialog enhancement

2008-12-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
The problem is that removing etoys is not a clean thing. We have first methods that are needed to be changed for both removing etoys *and* polymorph. So that's why the packages need to be in the pharo repository. In general, if you think about code quality or modularity in the context

[Pharo-project] some new issues for unimplemented calls

2008-12-03 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi, I added several new simple issues for removing few unimplemented calls: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=373 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=374 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=375 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=376

Re: [Pharo-project] Impressed, overwhelmed, and a little confused

2008-12-03 Thread Keith Hodges
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: There will be a pharo universe I imagine. Stef please no... let the suffering end Keith ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello configuration still broken

2008-12-03 Thread Keith Hodges
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Yes but when we load a package we load the package and its extensions and in Pharo we take care about that. Stef So why do you stick with a broken MC then? Keith ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] some new issues for unimplemented calls

2008-12-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks pavel We will go over the list and integrates what should be. On Dec 3, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: Hi, I added several new simple issues for removing few unimplemented calls: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=373

Re: [Pharo-project] Impressed, overwhelmed, and a little confused

2008-12-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I do not understand what you mean. I think that universe = a dsitribution is a good idea. Stef On Dec 3, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Keith Hodges wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote: There will be a pharo universe I imagine. Stef please no... let the suffering end Keith

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph password dialog enhancement

2008-12-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 03.12.2008, at 22:10, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: The problem is that removing etoys is not a clean thing. We have first methods that are needed to be changed for both removing etoys *and* polymorph. So that's why the packages need to be in the pharo repository. In general, if you think

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Rio: exceptions documentation

2008-12-03 Thread David Pennell
Should we add an item on the tracker to remove CrLfFileStream? -- Forwarded message -- From: Keith Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Rio: exceptions documentation To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Pharo-project] Impressed, overwhelmed, and a little confused

2008-12-03 Thread Igor Stasenko
2008/12/3 Stéphane Ducasse [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I do not understand what you mean. I think that universe = a dsitribution is a good idea. which have no guarantees that any package in it will work in your image :) Stef On Dec 3, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Keith Hodges wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello configuration still broken

2008-12-03 Thread Matthew Fulmer
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 10:24:55PM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: Because we did not have the time (and nobody took the time to look at the code and write a report for us on the extensions and status of MC1.5 and MC1.6) I'll take care of this. I am going to write up documentation and

Re: [Pharo-project] Impressed, overwhelmed, and a little confused

2008-12-03 Thread Keith Hodges
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: There will be a pharo universe I imagine. Stef please no... let the suffering end Keith Perhaps I should give a little more detail. 1. Searching Universes is a pain 2. Editing Universe entries is a pain 3. Editing Universe entries takes several minutes for update

[Pharo-project] refactor instance variables

2008-12-03 Thread David Pennell
refactor instance variables | accessors used to figure out which instance variables needed to be added and give you a chance to accept or reject the proposed list. After loading the latest updates, it now presents a list of instance variables, letting you pick one and only one to add. The new

[Pharo-project] inspector gadget

2008-12-03 Thread David Pennell
We currently have both inspect and explore. It would be nice to have one tool. I'd vote for explore as a base with some enhancements to pick up the useful features from inspect. -david ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] inspector gadget

2008-12-03 Thread David Mitchell
I'd vote for the Explorer too, but I'd prefer to keep the name Inspector and the action Inspect it. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:32 PM, David Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently have both inspect and explore. It would be nice to have one tool. I'd vote for explore as a base with some

Re: [Pharo-project] inspector gadget

2008-12-03 Thread David Pennell
I agree. Just to be clear - I use both because neither does all I need. Explorer is my default choice, but if I need to look at the innards of a String, I launch an Inspector. It seems like it would be easy enough to fix these in Explorer and then make that the default inspector. I'm just

Re: [Pharo-project] inspector gadget

2008-12-03 Thread Matthew Fulmer
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 10:26:30PM -0600, David Pennell wrote: I agree. Just to be clear - I use both because neither does all I need. Explorer is my default choice, but if I need to look at the innards of a String, I launch an Inspector. It seems like it would be easy enough to fix these in

Re: [Pharo-project] inspector gadget

2008-12-03 Thread David Pennell
You can modify iVars in Explorer, but it doesn't update the display. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Matthew Fulmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 10:26:30PM -0600, David Pennell wrote: I agree. Just to be clear - I use both because neither does all I need. Explorer is