Re: [Pharo-project] where should we load from Smacc

2008-12-15 Thread Marcus Denker
On 14.12.2008, at 22:08, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi marcus Apparently Smacc is not in the latest pharo. Yes... it was an old version with bugs and it's not used in the core. So I think it's better to not have it there. Where should I load it because moose needs it.

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph sound theme

2008-12-15 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Gary Chambers gazzagu...@btinternet.com wrote: Any interest in having some concrete sound themes via Polymorph? It's ok if Pharo has sound but I will always switch them of. I'm listening to good music (Pink Floyd) when I develop and would really hate PF to be

Re: [Pharo-project] IRC channel reminder

2008-12-15 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Matthew Fulmer tapp...@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe IRC can be a time waster at all. I think it is one of the better ways to develop goodwill inside the community. People tend to be somewhat impressed when they casually mention a problem on irc and a

[Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10193

2008-12-15 Thread Damien Cassou
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

[Pharo-project] Russification

2008-12-15 Thread Dennis Schetinin
Hi all! I'm trying to localize Pharo to be able to see and to type in russian letters. After (already many) hours I have no progress. Here details go... What I use: SmalltalkImage current vmVersion 'Squeak3.9 of 7 November 2006 [latest update: #7067]' About Squeak on Win32

Re: [Pharo-project] Which VM to run Pharso? (was: New pharo-dev based on 10193)

2008-12-15 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz os...@iam.unibe.ch wrote: Which VM should I use, and where can I find it? I have been using Squeak 3.8.12beta4U.app You could start with something more recent:

Re: [Pharo-project] Which VM to run Pharso?

2008-12-15 Thread David Röthlisberger
I'm using 3.8.18beta1U, there it works: http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/mac/Squeak%203.8.18beta1U.app.zip David Which VM should I use, and where can I find it? I have been using Squeak 3.8.12beta4U.app - on On Dec 15, 2008, at 14:20, Damien Cassou wrote: You could try with the latest VM

Re: [Pharo-project] FreeType scanning Font folders

2008-12-15 Thread Marcus Denker
On 14.12.2008, at 12:02, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Hello all, I am preparing a new istoa public release with latest Pharo. I am only using two fonts and I would like FreeType to only scan the Font folder along the .image. Can someone point me where to look to prevent FreeType scanning the

Re: [Pharo-project] david help

2008-12-15 Thread David Röthlisberger
OBAlpha breaks on me when I want to define a new package. Problems with icons ok, thanks for letting me know. There was a bigger problem behind this one, related to the tree. It is fixed now, you can get the fix with #loadOBAlpha. David ___

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph sound theme

2008-12-15 Thread Stefan Schmiedl
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:08:02 +0100 Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: It's ok if Pharo has sound but I will always switch them of. I'm listening to good music (Pink Floyd) when I develop and would really hate PF to be polluted :-). Well ... it's just another break in the wall ...

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph sound theme

2008-12-15 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I also never use sound (imagine an office with 5 people each playing a sound when opening a browser window ;)). If there is sound I would turn it off by default. Adrian On Dec 15, 2008, at 10:08 , Damien Cassou wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Gary Chambers gazzagu...@btinternet.com

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph sound theme

2008-12-15 Thread Ramon Leon
I also never use sound (imagine an office with 5 people each playing a sound when opening a browser window ;)). If there is sound I would turn it off by default. Adrian Ditto. I need nor want sound from my programming environment. Ramon Leon http://onsmalltalk.com

Re: [Pharo-project] public web site

2008-12-15 Thread Marcus Denker
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: 2008/12/14 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr: Hi guys We will not do a public announce besides this one. pharo-project.org and pharoproject.org now point to the cmsbox site... We won't announce it, just

Re: [Pharo-project] public web site

2008-12-15 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Stefan Schmiedl s...@xss.de wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:26:01 +0100 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: But the web site for pharo is going public - still a bit beta. The version 1.0 is under heavy development. We have produced over 180

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph sound theme

2008-12-15 Thread Lukas Renggli
Yeah, please no sound. Lukas On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Ramon Leon ramon.l...@allresnet.com wrote: I also never use sound (imagine an office with 5 people each playing a sound when opening a browser window ;)). If there is sound I would turn it off by default. Adrian Ditto. I need

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph sound theme

2008-12-15 Thread Bill Schwab
Please consider that it's not just your development environment - it is (or probably should be) the framework for my future users' desktop applications. Sounds are a part of life; the default can certainly be null, void and quiet. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida

Re: [Pharo-project] Which VM to run Pharso? (was: New pharo-dev based on 10193)

2008-12-15 Thread Bill Schwab
FWIW, I found that recent Pharo images did not work on XP until I grabbed a recent VM. I was using something quite old (3.7??) and switched to the 3.10 VM and suddenly everthing worked. I have _no_ idea where the cutoff is, nor can I say what the best choice would be. Bill Wilhelm K.

Re: [Pharo-project] public web site

2008-12-15 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Marcus Denker den...@iam.unibe.ch wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Stefan Schmiedl s...@xss.de wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:26:01 +0100 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: But the web site for pharo is going public - still a bit

Re: [Pharo-project] Russification

2008-12-15 Thread danil osipchuk
Dennis hi Unfortunately I do not have enough time to look at this deeply, but anyway - see below... 2008/12/15 Dennis Schetinin chae...@gmail.com Hi all! I'm trying to localize Pharo to be able to see and to type in russian letters. After (already many) hours I have no progress. Here

[Pharo-project] Which VM to run Pharso? (was: New pharo-dev based on 10193)

2008-12-15 Thread Oscar Nierstrasz
Which VM should I use, and where can I find it? I have been using Squeak 3.8.12beta4U.app - on On Dec 15, 2008, at 14:20, Damien Cassou wrote: You could try with the latest VM from John or contact Andrew. ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10193

2008-12-15 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz os...@iam.unibe.ch wrote: It freezes on me. http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~oscar/Temp/Pharo/pharo0.1-10193dev08.12.2-fail.png What should I do? You could try with the latest VM from John or contact Andrew. -- Damien Cassou

Re: [Pharo-project] Which VM to run Pharso? (was: New pharo-dev based on 10193)

2008-12-15 Thread Oscar Nierstrasz
OK, I found them at ftp://ftp.smalltalkconsulting.com Squeak 3.8.19beta2U.app seems to work ok. - on On Dec 15, 2008, at 15:30, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: Which VM should I use, and where can I find it? I have been using Squeak 3.8.12beta4U.app - on On Dec 15, 2008, at 14:20, Damien

Re: [Pharo-project] where should we load from Smacc

2008-12-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok thanks. Just a question is this one? not old and without bugs :) On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: On 14.12.2008, at 22:08, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi marcus Apparently Smacc is not in the latest pharo. Yes... it was an old version with bugs and it's not used in the

Re: [Pharo-project] FreeType scanning Font folders

2008-12-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
would be nice indeed. Stef On Dec 15, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: On 14.12.2008, at 12:02, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Hello all, I am preparing a new istoa public release with latest Pharo. I am only using two fonts and I would like FreeType to only scan the Font folder

Re: [Pharo-project] Russification

2008-12-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
This is strange since I do not remember that we remove it. I would really to see how we can harvest the change related to unicode support done in Etoy40. Now I do not have expertise in that area. Stef What I use: SmalltalkImage current vmVersion 'Squeak3.9 of 7 November 2006

Re: [Pharo-project] about test icons

2008-12-15 Thread David Röthlisberger
Hi Stef, I found a bug :) when you let the mouse over a class icon (showing some broken tests) DNU testMorePassedLabel Thanks, fixed now. Else if would be great that when we click on the icons we can rerun the test from there or debug them :) ok, I will implement this. David

Re: [Pharo-project] about test icons

2008-12-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Once we should really sit down and check all the David in the latest OBAlpha I could not create a package I got a iconsAt: DNU I had to create a package using MC (and closing OB) to create it. Stef On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:52 PM, David Röthlisberger wrote: Hi Stef, I found a bug :) when

Re: [Pharo-project] FreeType scanning Font folders

2008-12-15 Thread Rob Rothwell
I just removed the #startup: method, and everything still works fine for fonts ALREADY loaded...even the font selection dialog box. Maybe just a button to rescan on demand? Take care, Rob On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: would be nice

Re: [Pharo-project] FreeType scanning Font folders

2008-12-15 Thread Rob Rothwell
In fact, the FontChooserMorph looks simple enough that even I might be able to give that a shot! Rob On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Rob Rothwell r.j.rothw...@gmail.comwrote: I just removed the #startup: method, and everything still works fine for fonts ALREADY loaded...even the font

Re: [Pharo-project] FreeType scanning Font folders

2008-12-15 Thread Rob Rothwell
Here is a change set that adds an Update button to the font list dialog. I have never created a change set before, or submitted anything for that matter. I used my full name (not initials), but don't know if I am supposed to do anything else. I like not re-scanning unless you need to, but I bet

Re: [Pharo-project] FreeType scanning Font folders

2008-12-15 Thread John M McIntosh
For Sophie I took the tactic of recording the details of the font files that were loaded, on restart we just would re-read the directory (a fast process) then compare the remembered files against the cached list. If there was a difference we would just resolve which were added, changed or