Re: [Pharo-project] byte codes, parse-tree walking, etc.

2009-07-10 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Hi Cameron, 2009/7/8 Cameron Sanders >2.b) And what is the name (& path) of the C module that actually > implements the VM case statement (or whatever dispatch is used)? > > I think the switch you're asking for is in the files interp.c and/or gnu-interp.c, in the function interpret(void)

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Usability and look-and-feel (was Re: The future ofSqueak & Pharo (was Re: [ANN] Pharo MIT licenseclean))

2009-07-10 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 09.07.2009 23:03, Lukas Renggli wrote: OUCH That's quite an example; just for giggles, I started up a 3.9 polymorph image and retraced my steps (via message names, same as in Pharo) and had a prompt reply. After doing that, I found that Pharo (win32) had indeed completed the task.

[Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10373

2009-07-10 Thread Torsten Bergmann
the new image built by Damien [1] now also as Win32 Setup [2] Have fun Torsten [1] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-July/010684.html [2] https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22635/setup_pharo_0.0.0.6.exe -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jet

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Usability and look-and-feel (was Re: The future ofSqueak & Pharo (was Re: [ANN] Pharo MIT licenseclean))

2009-07-10 Thread Keith Hodges
Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > On 09.07.2009 23:03, Lukas Renggli wrote: >>> OUCH That's quite an example; just for giggles, I started up a 3.9 >>> polymorph image and retraced my steps (via message names, same as in Pharo) >>> and had a prompt reply. After doing that, I found that Pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Usability andlook-and-feel(was Re: The future ofSqueak & Pharo (was Re:[ANN] Pharo MITlicenseclean))

2009-07-10 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Adrian, Thanks for the clarification. Taking note of Gary's emphasis of the standard toolset, I dug a little and came up with this: ToolSet default:StandardToolSet. SystemBrowser default:Browser. Does that do the job? Bill -Original Message- From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.

Re: [Pharo-project] Squeak Forks Popularity & Trends Estimate

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Robert Peters wrote: > > Dear David and Stephane, > > Thank you for your replies. David, you make excellent points. I > did not > know about VW being free and will try it out. And you're certainly > right > that however much Smalltalk web resources are smaller

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Usability andlook-and-feel(was Re: The future ofSqueak & Pharo (was Re:[ANN] Pharo MITlicenseclean))

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
welcome to squeak On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:31 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Good question... I was also puzzled because changing the ToolSet does > not change the browser. > > try > > SystemBrowser askForDefault > > or directly do > > SystemBrowser default: Browser > > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Jul

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Usability and look-and-feel (was Re: The future ofSqueak & Pharo (was Re: [ANN] Pharo MIT licenseclean))

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
yes probably but I really needed that when curving out etoy On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:10 PM, Michael Rueger wrote: > Lukas Renggli wrote: >>> OUCH That's quite an example; just for giggles, I started up a >>> 3.9 polymorph image and retraced my steps (via message names, same >>> as in Pharo) and

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Usability and look-and-feel (was Re: The future ofSqueak & Pharo (was Re: [ANN] Pharo MIT licenseclean))

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Im wirting a real package object to replace package info. I hope to have something by the end of the summer. Stef On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:03 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> OUCH That's quite an example; just for giggles, I started up a >> 3.9 polymorph image and retraced my steps (via message n

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Usability and look-and-feel (was Re: The future ofSqueak & Pharo (was Re: [ANN] Pharo MIT licenseclean))

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
methodDisplayStringForClass: class selector: sel ^ String streamContents: [ :s | s nextPutAll: class name ; nextPutAll: ' ' ; nextPutAll: sel ; nextPutAll: ' {' ;

[Pharo-project] apparently versions seems to be broken

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
When I remove a method then realize that this is a mistake, retyping the exact same selector and pressing versions does not show me the previous method. Can somebody confirm and ifTrueCreateABugEntryAndProvideAFixThanks We should fix that :) Stef ___

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Usability and look-and-feel (was Re: The future ofSqueak & Pharo (was Re: [ANN] Pharo MIT licenseclean))

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks henrik Probably the package browser is doing too much stuff too. I'm slowly making progress on the new package class (test driven) Stef On Jul 10, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > On 09.07.2009 23:03, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>> OUCH That's quite an example; just f

[Pharo-project] Fwd: good keybinder

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi all I would love to have emacs like end of line and others. I remember that there were two keybinding frameworks working in Squeak. It would be great to rescue one and use it in pharo. Do you have any personal experience with that issue? Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Sprint at ESUG

2009-07-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Michael rouger: are you going to be there? I still have some utf problems with my latinamerican keyboard in Linux nobody could reproduce...perhaps we can debug it there (I will have my notebook with me) and see if we find the problem. On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > ye

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Usability and look-and-feel (was Re: The future ofSqueak & Pharo (was Re: [ANN] Pharo MIT licenseclean))

2009-07-10 Thread Brian Brown
On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Keith Hodges wrote: > I don't know if this helps but in MC1.5 Matthew sped up the > PackageInfo > routines for scanning the image by a factor of 10 or so. > Hi Keith, Did you have to modify the API provided to MC, or just refactor the internal implementation in P

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: good keybinder

2009-07-10 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 2009-07-10 13:16:50 -0300, Stéphane Ducasse said: > > > Hi all > > I would love to have emacs like end of line and others. > I remember that there were two keybinding frameworks working in Squeak. > It would be great to rescue one and use it in pharo. > Do you have any personal experience

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Usability and look-and-feel (was Re: The future ofSqueak & Pharo (was Re: [ANN] Pharo MIT licenseclean))

2009-07-10 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, One of my greatest concerns about/for the Squeak community is an overall tone of "*YOU* can't do that because *I* think its's ugly" - or in this case, too slow. So, far be it from me to tell you that you cannot have even a super slow browser that does something you need. That's all the

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10374

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Fixing deprecation (since it was not working) Deprecated some methods in Utilities (slowly we will get there) Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] Creating install scripts - any tools?

2009-07-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Hello all, > > Are there any tools that help in writing install scripts? I am thinking > along the lines of something that would sniff out all MC packages with me as > author and propose a script to load them. As an optional bonus, it mi

[Pharo-project] Creating install scripts - any tools?

2009-07-10 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Hello all, Are there any tools that help in writing install scripts? I am thinking along the lines of something that would sniff out all MC packages with me as author and propose a script to load them. As an optional bonus, it might put them in the correct order?? I wrote a tool called Migra

[Pharo-project] Fix for issue 948

2009-07-10 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Name: SLICE-Issue948-Mantis7361-FloatCompare-nice.1 Author: nice Time: 10 July 2009, 10:44:40 pm UUID: 6460f6cf-3eab-4195-8013-a10d080c4b7b Ancestors: Dependencies: Kernel-nice.renggli.363, KernelTests-nice.121 Test and fix for issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=948 mantis http:

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo VM setup problem: where is pharo-vm-0.15.1b-linux source package available?

2009-07-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Stef: where should I put this type of things so that not to forget it ? Google code seems not to have tickets that aren't bugs...or I don't see them Best, Mariano On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks for the idea. > this would be nice to have a pointer to a forge fo

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: good keybinder

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jul 10, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > On 2009-07-10 13:16:50 -0300, Stéphane Ducasse > said: > >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I would love to have emacs like end of line and others. >> I remember that there were two keybinding frameworks working in >> Squeak. >> It would be great to r

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Usability and look-and-feel (was Re: The future ofSqueak & Pharo (was Re: [ANN] Pharo MIT licenseclean))

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jul 10, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Stef, > > One of my greatest concerns about/for the Squeak community is an > overall tone of "*YOU* can't do that because *I* think its's ugly" - > or in this case, too slow. So, far be it from me to tell you that > you cannot have eve

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 103745

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
- adding gofer script in ScriptLoader :) - removing a lot of project related methods. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] Fix for issue 948

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Soon integrated. I will also revert the senders annotation with package. stef On Jul 10, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Name: SLICE-Issue948-Mantis7361-FloatCompare-nice.1 > Author: nice > Time: 10 July 2009, 10:44:40 pm > UUID: 6460f6cf-3eab-4195-8013-a10d080c4b7b > Ancestors: > De

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo VM setup problem: where is pharo-vm-0.15.1b-linux source package available?

2009-07-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
we can use the wiki (or the inria crappy site :)) Stef On Jul 10, 2009, at 11:42 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Stef: where should I put this type of things so that not to forget > it ? > > Google code seems not to have tickets that aren't bugs...or I don't > see them > > Best, > > Maria