Re: [Pharo-project] Collect all references to AnObsoleteFoo

2013-04-01 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 02/04/13 12:50 AM, roberto.minelli-bhdirlqp...@public.gmane.org wrote: Is there any way to "browse" through such references to understand where are they? From an inspector, choose the "Explore pointers", making sure you've selected the object that you're trying to understand what is refer

Re: [Pharo-project] Collect all references to AnObsoleteFoo

2013-04-01 Thread roberto.mine...@usi.ch
Thanks for your answer! On Apr 2, 2013, at 12:03 AM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > They arise when you delete a class, but you still have references to the > class in the image. You could have instances of the deleted class, references > to the class in a method, or even subclasses that refer the the de

Re: [Pharo-project] Collect all references to AnObsoleteFoo

2013-04-01 Thread roberto.mine...@usi.ch
Thanks Fernando, On Apr 1, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Fernando Olivero wrote: > Ciao Roberto, > > Whenever you remove a class that is still referenced in the system, an > ObsoleteClass takes the place of the removed class. In the late-bound > spirit of Smalltalk, the system allows removing the classes

Re: [Pharo-project] Collect all references to AnObsoleteFoo

2013-04-01 Thread roberto.mine...@usi.ch
On Apr 1, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Max Leske wrote: > Quick fix: if you *need* to serialize those classes, simply change the code > so that fuel serializes them. I already tried. But then I had problems in materialization so I aborted the trial ;) > Can you post the list of classes that are obsolet

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] SLOC in Smalltalk

2013-04-01 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Hi Janko. Thanks for your useful package. Apparently there is some issue with #linesOfCode. The dummy expression below return 5 instead of 4 in Pharo 1.4 and 2 because is counting the autogenerated 'DoIt' selector. (UndefinedObject evaluatorClass new compileNoPattern: '| oc | oc := Or

Re: [Pharo-project] Modern and Future Smalltalk

2013-04-01 Thread Dennis Schetinin
+1 Really, looks like I'll take a lot from that presentation! :) -- Best regards, Dennis Schetinin 2013/4/1 Sean P. DeNigris > Janko Mivšek wrote > > On the Web Frontiers with Smalltalk > > http://ftp.eranova.si/aida/mivsek-web-frontiers-esug11.pdf > > Great slideshow! Thanks

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Vision is becoming reality

2013-04-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 April 2013 22:08, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > On Apr 1, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "Igor Stasenko [via Smalltalk]" <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> And as for ephemerons, >> the implementation exists, and actually it's in our VMs. > > So right now, are blocks held weakly by announcers? That was my major u

Re: [Pharo-project] Collect all references to AnObsoleteFoo

2013-04-01 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 01/04/13 10:51 AM, roberto.minelli-bhdirlqp...@public.gmane.org wrote: For me the entire "behavior" of obsolete classes is obscure and I don't know how those classes are originated. They arise when you delete a class, but you still have references to the class in the image. You could have

Re: [Pharo-project] Collect all references to AnObsoleteFoo

2013-04-01 Thread Fernando Olivero
Ciao Roberto, Whenever you remove a class that is still referenced in the system, an ObsoleteClass takes the place of the removed class. In the late-bound spirit of Smalltalk, the system allows removing the classes and dealing with the current references later. If i may question the source of you

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

2013-04-01 Thread Tudor Girba
No stress. In the worst case you can fix it tomorrow during the tutorial :). Doru On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2013-04-01, at 22:09, "Sean P. DeNigris" wrote: > >> Tudor Girba-2 wrote >>> Could it have something to do with the latest optimizations of Camillo? >>

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Dr. Geo 13.04 for workstations and Android

2013-04-01 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
We are proud to announce you release 13.04. http://drgeo.eu/news/drgeo1304 Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

2013-04-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-04-01, at 22:09, "Sean P. DeNigris" wrote: > Tudor Girba-2 wrote >> Could it have something to do with the latest optimizations of Camillo? > > Probably... Cami breaks everything :-P dammit, I wanted to silently add the new zeroconf scripts obviously something went horribly wrong there

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

2013-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Tudor Girba-2 wrote > Could it have something to do with the latest optimizations of Camillo? Probably... Cami breaks everything :-P - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/3-0-CI-build-is-broken-tp4679211p4679220.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing lis

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Vision is becoming reality

2013-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
On Apr 1, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "Igor Stasenko [via Smalltalk]" wrote: > And as for ephemerons, > the implementation exists, and actually it's in our VMs. So right now, are blocks held weakly by announcers? That was my major use case. Also, do we still have to send #weak or is weak now the defau

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

2013-04-01 Thread Tudor Girba
So is the Moose build (Pharo 2.0). Could it have something to do with the latest optimizations of Camillo? Doru On Apr 1, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-1-Tracker/82/console > > 2013-04-01 20:54:16 (6.41 MB/s) - `updates30.staged'

Re: [Pharo-project] Collect all references to AnObsoleteFoo

2013-04-01 Thread Max Leske
I've had the same problem just recently but am stuck in a bit of work right now. I hope to elaborate at length tomorrow. Quick fix: if you *need* to serialize those classes, simply change the code so that fuel serializes them. To fix obsolete classes you need to remove all references to it, be

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Vision is becoming reality

2013-04-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
And as for ephemerons, the implementation exists, and actually it's in our VMs. But after discussing with Eliot, it needs some work to use separate object format for it. On 1 April 2013 17:57, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2013-04-01, at 17:54, "Sean P. DeNigris" wrote: > >> Out of the 14 action i

[Pharo-project] [3.0] CI build is broken

2013-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-1-Tracker/82/console 2013-04-01 20:54:16 (6.41 MB/s) - `updates30.staged' saved [28/28] + bash + wget --quiet -O - http://files.pharo.org/script/ciPharo30PharoVM.sh Downloading the latest 30 Image: http://files.pharo.org/image/30/latest.zip

[Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30020

2013-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
30020 - 7235 We should move KeyedTree from Polymorph-Widgets to Collections-Unordered https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/7235 7540 Etoys related cleanup in CursorWIthAlpha https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/7540 Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/Pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-04-01 until: 2013-04-14

2013-04-01 Thread Tudor Girba
On Apr 1, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2013-04-01, at 07:00, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: > >> Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community >> an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. >> Just answer infor

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Vision is becoming reality

2013-04-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-04-01, at 17:54, "Sean P. DeNigris" wrote: > Out of the 14 action items laid out in the 5 year vision, /over half now > exist one year later/ in the 2.0 release! > > Here's the current progress (corrections/updates welcome): > > In 2.0: > 2a Rewrite of Filesystem > 7 Packages as real o

[Pharo-project] Pharo Vision is becoming reality

2013-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Out of the 14 action items laid out in the 5 year vision, /over half now exist one year later/ in the 2.0 release! Here's the current progress (corrections/updates welcome): In 2.0: 2a Rewrite of Filesystem 7 Packages as real objects (RPackage) 8 Package Meta-Data (manifest classes) 9 Less Model

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-04-01 until: 2013-04-14

2013-04-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-04-01, at 07:00, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: > Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community > an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. > Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! > > ##

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-04-01 until: 2013-04-14

2013-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: Holidays :) ### What's next, until 2013-04-14 (*): - Literal programming framework - Polish up Jenkins Pharo backend (only one one-liner shell script for the whole Jenkins installation) - Resume work on Vim key bindings - may still have to

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-04-01 until: 2013-04-14

2013-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
EstebanLM wrote > - NB-ObjC bridge > - iOS vm on jenkins AWESOME!!! - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/WhatsUp-from-2013-04-01-until-2013-04-14-tp4679157p4679197.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] Modern and Future Smalltalk

2013-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Janko Mivšek wrote > On the Web Frontiers with Smalltalk > http://ftp.eranova.si/aida/mivsek-web-frontiers-esug11.pdf Great slideshow! Thanks :) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Modern-and-Future-Smalltalk-tp4679154p4679196.html Sent from th

Re: [Pharo-project] Notification on unloading of packages?

2013-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote > once the package is unloaded Browsing Announcement subclasses, I see RPackageUnregistered and CategoryRemoved. Maybe one of those would help. Also, it's better to ask user questions on pharo-us...@lists.gforge.inria.fr, so your question doesn't get lost and it gi

[Pharo-project] Collect all references to AnObsoleteFoo

2013-04-01 Thread roberto.mine...@usi.ch
Hi, I'm getting crazy about obsolete behaviors and any help here is really appreciated. In a nutshell, I have a Dictionary (containing receivers of method calls, i.e., classes) that I need to serialize in a file (i.e., using Fuel). Fuel returns an error in FLGlobalClassCluster>>#serializeGloba

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-04-01 until: 2013-04-14

2013-04-01 Thread Alexandre Bergel
> ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - Included fix for Roassal - Fought with Metacello on getting some configuration right - Slightly improved Versionner - Migrating Mondrian code to Roassal in Moose > ### What's next, until 2013-04-14 (*): - Continue with the migration Mo

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-04-01 until: 2013-04-14

2013-04-01 Thread Tudor Girba
> ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - worked on getting the Moose 4.8 build green (on Pharo 2.0) - organized PharoConf | MooseDay - prepared presentations about Moose - enhanced Jenkins infrastructure for Moose - wrote a detailed description of how cycle detection can be used

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-04-01 until: 2013-04-14

2013-04-01 Thread Damien Cassou
### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: pharo website (IRC + release dates) make linux pharo VM work on recent computers and OS Implement a way to get the user directories based on the current OS on Linux report some Pharo bugs GSoC project proposals Fix Nautilus class indentation

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-04-01 until: 2013-04-14

2013-04-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Apr 1, 2013, at 7:00 AM, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: > Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community > an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. > Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! > >

Re: [Pharo-project] news about the association and the consortium

2013-04-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I am chasing a 50K+ project. Should that go fine, I'll be able to give you 4K in 2014. 2013/4/1 Luc Fabresse > great! > thanks to all. > > Luc > > > #Luc > > > 2013/3/31 Stéphane Ducasse > >> Hi guys >> >> We were checking a bit the situation and this is promising :) >> >> -> Consortium: 9 Mem

Re: [Pharo-project] Modern and Future Smalltalk

2013-04-01 Thread Janko Mivšek
Hi Dennis, For the web you can look at my ESUG presentation: On the Web Frontiers with Smalltalk http://ftp.eranova.si/aida/mivsek-web-frontiers-esug11.pdf Here you can find current trends of Smalltalk on the web: HTML5, real-time web, client-side web apps, mobile, revival of MVC

Re: [Pharo-project] PDF Rendering

2013-04-01 Thread Christian Haider
Hi Ben, yes I am lurking :-) About manipulating PDFs - this is really easy and people have done that: Aik-Siong Koh needed to split large PDFs into one-page PDFs and Holger Kleinsorgen answered on vwnc with the following code to do that: | inputStream inputPDF pageNumber | inputStream := 'Releas

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo success story

2013-04-01 Thread Benjamin
Typo in the webpage "Our profilers are made for the Pharo and Visual Works plataforms:" plataforms ? :) Ben On Apr 1, 2013, at 2:28 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > I think http://ObjectProfile.com can be listed as a success story :-) > Maybe it can be listed here: > http://www.pharo-p

Re: [Pharo-project] news about the association and the consortium

2013-04-01 Thread Luc Fabresse
great! thanks to all. Luc #Luc 2013/3/31 Stéphane Ducasse > Hi guys > > We were checking a bit the situation and this is promising :) > > -> Consortium: 9 Members, 1 Sponsor ==> 20500 EUR/Year > -> Association: 47 Members ==> 4040 EUR/Year > > We really think that we can reach the first goal

[Pharo-project] Notification on unloading of packages?

2013-04-01 Thread Holger Hans Peter Freyther
Good Morning, one of my packages is creating a Process on >>#initialize and I would like to stop it once the package is unloaded. I browsed a bit through the Monticello classes but couldn't find anything like that. Is this possible? kind regards holger

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo success story

2013-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:27 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > I think http://ObjectProfile.com can be listed as a success story :-) > Maybe it can be listed here: > http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories > > We have several screenshots: > http://objectprofile.com/#/pages/products/

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-04-01 until: 2013-04-14

2013-04-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: * continued the iPad external bluetooth keyboard mapping * made an experimental Pomodoro to be embedded in Pharo * tried to unsuccessfully fork the Gitorious pharo vm code into my own Kiln Harmony and finding that there is a problem doing so

[Pharo-project] #pharoconf #mooseday on twitter

2013-04-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, If you want to tweet/follow what is going on at PharoConf and MooseDay, please use #pharoconf and #mooseday. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Beauty is where we see it."