Re: [Pharo-project] x4 difference between #to:do: and #timesRepeat - bug ?

2009-11-13 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 09:13 -0800, Martin McClure wrote: > Igor Stasenko wrote: > > No, please no more inilining hacks. :) > > If someone wants to run everything at light speed - just code in C, > > but leave smalltalk honoring the > > message passing. > > And besides, these tricks won't make any d

Re: [Pharo-project] Connectors

2009-11-17 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 20:14 +0100, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> http://www.svgopen.org/2009/papers/58-Interactive_Documentation_using_JavaScript_and_SVG/ > > > > What you have in Figure 3 is fairly trivial to obtain. I can provide > > scripts for this. > > Other figure are doable, but may require effo

Re: [Pharo-project] This interpreter (vers. 6502) cannot read image file (vers. 6504).

2009-12-15 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 14:39 -0800, Monty Kamath wrote: > The latest version of the vm doesn't work on CentOS 4 because it requires > glibc 2.4. > Is there an older version of the vm that will work? If so could you point > me to it? > > My VPS is on CentOS 4 which doesn't have glibc 2.4 so I get t

Re: [Pharo-project] TestIndenting fails with Exupery (was: [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10507-rc2dev10.01.2)

2010-01-26 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 08:12 +0100, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > > Now I know how to build my own squeak vm with FT2Plugin (yeepeee !!). > So: > > > Linux + FT2Plugin + Squeak vm = success > Linux + FT2Plugin + Exupery vm = fails > > > I put the built vm here: > http://lolgzs.free.fr/phar

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux VM (was TestIndenting fails with Exupery (was: [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10507-rc2dev10.01.2))

2010-02-01 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 07:52 +0100, laurent laffont wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Bryce Kampjes > wrote: > How can I build an Exupery VM ? > > I think we should clean the linux download section of pharo website to > have: > - generated src (32 and 64 bits) s

Re: [Pharo-project] cull: protocol

2010-02-21 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 14:03 +0100, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Henrik Johansen wrote: > > > Well, ugly was a strong word. > > Reusing less, aka. shorter is a better choice, I guess. > > I think the difference is 3 lines for the 4 methods. > > > > > Cheers, > > Henry > > > > PS.

Re: [Pharo-project] cull: protocol

2010-02-22 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 11:14 +0100, Henrik Johansen wrote: > Den 21.02.2010 23:11, skrev Bryce Kampjes: > > On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 14:03 +0100, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Henrik Johansen wrote: > >> > >> > >>>

Re: [Pharo-project] Helping getting pharo license-clean

2009-05-17 Thread Bryce Kampjes
ybody recognize an author on the list that could be contacted? > (one method of Bryce Kampjes is on the list but should not (will fix > in the next version)). > > Cheers, > Adrian > > [1] http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ResultofRelicensing?ts=1242581939 > > On Ma

Re: [Pharo-project] How To build exupery?

2009-05-27 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 20:39 +0200, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi Ruiz wrote: > I downloaded but I suppose a make install or something like this is > needed, to put all files and plugins in the rigth place. What are you trying to do? The VM's include a pre-built squeak executable, just execute that. There'

Re: [Pharo-project] Exupery VM crashed with SegFault

2009-06-05 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 09:39 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > This is issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=855 > > Is there a fix (i.e., new VM) in sight? It's on my list of things to look at but I'm unlikely to have a great deal of time for the next few months. Bryce __

Re: [Pharo-project] VM & Exupery

2009-07-07 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 17:38 -0400, Cameron Sanders wrote: > What are the best places (documentation sources) to get started > exploring and learning the VM code (the generated C) and Exupery? > > I am running on an iMac and would be willing to try to get Exupery > working on it. This conversa

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo0.1-10373dev09.07.2: load Exupery-wbk.341 -> MOAbstractLayout missing

2009-07-12 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Sun, 2009-07-12 at 23:18 +0200, Andreas Leidig wrote: > Dear List, > > I tried to load Exupery-wbk.341 in pharo0.1-10373dev09.07.2, #10377. > > I received a popup: > > This package depends on the following classes: > MOAbstractLayout > You must resolve these dependencies b

Re: [Pharo-project] problem with running Pharo under Solaris 10 9/05

2009-09-07 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 15:58 +0200, ivaylo.ganc...@univ-paris8.fr wrote: > Hello. > > I can't manage to run the virtual machine under solaris 10. I have > permanently the following output: > > -bash: ./squeak: Invalid argument > > Here is the output when I try to run the image with the vm of sque

Re: [Pharo-project] MIT strikes back (was Re: [smalltalk-research] Re: [Esug-list] Google Summer Of Code 2010 news!!!)

2010-03-21 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 16:31 -0600, Chris Muller wrote: > Well, I certainly care.. Stef wasn't remarking about license rights, > he said didn't understand the smiley face. Frankly, I don't either. > After years of teasing from Bryce and now this? What a crushing > disappointment. I'm still here.

Re: [Pharo-project] How I build squeak-vm with FT2Plugin on Linux

2010-03-22 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 10:28 +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Both really interesting posts. Now...Some people reported that the > Exupery Linux VM has "nicer" fonts than the standard VM, even if both > use true type. > Then Bryce Kampjes said in the mailing list: >

Re: [Pharo-project] MIT strikes back (was Re: [smalltalk-research] Re: [Esug-list] Google Summer Of Code 2010 news!!!)

2010-03-24 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 19:30 +0100, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Bryce Kampjes a écrit : > > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 16:31 -0600, Chris Muller wrote: > >> Well, I certainly care.. Stef wasn't remarking about license rights, > >> he said didn't understand the

Re: [Pharo-project] Squeak VM+FT2Plugin, all Pharo 1.0 rc3 tests green

2010-03-28 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 18:38 +0100, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > On Mar 27, 2010, at 18:21 , laurent laffont wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > > >> > >> On Mar 27, 2010, at 17:16 , laurent laffont wrote: > >> > I would love that the official Linux VM has:

Re: [Pharo-project] MIT strikes back (was Re: [smalltalk-research] Re: [Esug-list] Google Summer Of Code 2010 news!!!)

2010-03-28 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 16:41 +0200, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Bryce Kampjes a écrit : > > On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 19:30 +0100, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > >> Bryce Kampjes a écrit : > >>> On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 16:31 -0600, Chris Muller wrote: > >>>> We

Re: [Pharo-project] The Pharo Linux Vm [WAS] Squeak VM+FT2Plugin, all Pharo 1.0 rc3 tests green

2010-03-29 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 18:21 -0300, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > - It has to be a Standard VM, not Exupery. Exupery without the exupery > package, has no sense at all. It is in Pharo download just because of > history reasons. Bryce was very helpful and was the first in put > closures in the VM

Re: [Pharo-project] Squeak VM+FT2Plugin, all Pharo 1.0 rc3 tests green

2010-03-30 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 14:01 -0700, John M McIntosh wrote: > On 2010-03-30, at 11:43 AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > > > That's probably because Laurent built almost every plugin as external. > > These include those which are responsible for displaying stuff on the > > screen. > > Um, > Once w

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem loading Exupery on PharoCore 1.0

2010-04-05 Thread Bryce Kampjes
You can safely ignore this. Mondrian and GraphViz is only used for inspectors to view the generated code and intermediate languages. The easiest way to resolve them would be to load GraphViz and Mondrian from the Exupery repository. It should be easy to port Exupery forward to the latest Mondrian

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux VM microbenchmarks

2010-04-05 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 22:19 +0200, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Laurent, > > I runned the same benchmark with Exupery, here is > > Exupery > 202371541 bytecodes/sec; 5948654 sends/sec > 201574803 bytecodes/sec; 5948654 sends/sec > 201416207 bytecodes/sec; 5933632 sends/sec > 202531645 bytecodes/sec

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI in 1.1

2010-04-27 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 11:24 +0300, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 26 April 2010 10:57, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > Igor, > > > > Looks cool, but I really would like to know the exact difference to Exupery? > > > > For what I understand NativeBoost is no different to Exupery's > > low-level code generation

Re: [Pharo-project] VMs for Pharo 1.1

2010-05-12 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 10:23 -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Just to stir up the hornets' nest (with the best of intentions), last summer, > Eliot had suggested that December 2009 would see a big release. In fairness, > let he who has never slipped a release date cast the first stone :) Knowing

Re: [Pharo-project] Exupery VM crashed with SegFault

2009-03-30 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 16:32 +0200, Damien Cassou wrote: > Hi, > > try to evaluate the following code in any Pharo image using the > Exupery Unix VM and you will get a Segmentation Fault. > > Preferences setMenuFontTo: (LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' > pointSize: 10). That works here usin

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-03-31 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 15:30 +0200, Damien Cassou wrote: > 2009/3/31 Mariano Martinez Peck : > > And in windows? I can also test it. the last windows exupery vm also has > > closure support ? > > I think so They are. Both the Linux and Windows Exupery VMs have the closure bytecodes compiled in. Th

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-03-31 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 18:42 -0100, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Ok. Thanks. But, now I wonder, is there a linux and windows vm > somehere with closure so that I can be a tester of this ? Just to > test another OS. I imagine most of you use mac The Exupery VMs have closures. You can use

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-03-31 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 19:03 -0100, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >The Exupery VMs have closures. You can use them on both Windows and > Linux. I released them here to help people test the image > without > needing to compile their own VMs. > > Ok, so, I didn't understoo

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] VM for closures on pharo web site

2009-04-01 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 14:48 +0200, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Hi Damien, > > >> damien could you edit a page on the wiki with a link to these vms? > > > >http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2 > > > > I dont know why you linked to the Exupery VM for Win32 on this page? > Maybe because

Re: [Pharo-project] Undefined symbol using Exupery VM

2009-04-03 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 19:22 -0100, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Damien Cassou > wrote: > While using Monticello : > > ioFindExternalFunctionIn(primitiveResolverHostNameSize, > 0x89bc1b0): > /usr/local/lib/squeak/exup

Re: [Pharo-project] Undefined symbol using Exupery VM

2009-04-06 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 15:00 +0200, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Bryce Kampjes > wrote: > > I've added this to my list of known issues with the VM. It's odd that I > > haven't seen it myself as I do use Monticello and these have been m

Re: [Pharo-project] Undefined symbol using Exupery VM

2009-04-07 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 15:00 +0200, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Bryce Kampjes > wrote: > > I've added this to my list of known issues with the VM. It's odd that I > > haven't seen it myself as I do use Monticello and these have been m

Re: [Pharo-project] Undefined symbol using Exupery VM

2009-04-08 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 14:10 +0200, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Bryce Kampjes > wrote: > > OK, I know whats wrong, the VMMaker I merged from was from February, the > > latest when I assembled that image. The primitive you're using was > > in

Re: [Pharo-project] linux version download problem

2009-04-13 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 00:14 +0200, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > 2009/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck : > OK, thanks, in between I tried to copy the whole build/ to /somewhere > and executed /somewhere/build/squeak *.image and it works fine. > Sorry, procedure was not clear to me compared to usual squeak >

Re: [Pharo-project] Postgresql + pharo

2009-04-13 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 01:01 -0300, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > a) another vm: the latest from squeak.org and the latest from exupery: > http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/exupery-vm-0.15-linux.tz Use http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/exupery-vm-0.15.1-linux.tz I upgraded the VM to includ

Re: [Pharo-project] linux version download problem

2009-04-24 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 14:41 +0200, Michael Rueger wrote: > Bryce Kampjes wrote: > > > It's true that the packaging procedure could do with some more work. > > When I originally started producing pre-packaged VMs for Exupery this is > > what people wanted. >

Re: [Pharo-project] linux version download problem

2009-04-25 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 02:09 +0200, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > Speaking of which, how's the work on making Exupery (the JIT, not the > VM :) ) compatible with a Closure VM going? I haven't yet started on making Exupery work with closures. I'm likely to do that after I finish the first stage

Re: [Pharo-project] Random failures with Linux VM

2009-04-27 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 13:36 +0200, Michael Rueger wrote: > Hi all, > > while trying to update a 10281 on the closure (exupery) Linux VM I'm > running into random failures like DNUs, failed network access etc. > I'm running ubuntu in VirtualBox. > > Has anybody seen anything similar? > > Maybe I

Re: [Pharo-project] Random failures with Linux VM

2009-04-27 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 22:08 +0200, Michael Rueger wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Bryce Kampjes > wrote: > > > > What version of Ubuntu are you using? I'm running 8.04 here and it's > > stable. > > 8.04 (I think, don't have access right

Re: [Pharo-project] NetNameResolver problem on Linux Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-06 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 08:38 +0200, Alain Plantec wrote: > Michael Rueger a écrit : > > Alain Plantec wrote: > > > >> I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, I'm using Exupery VM 0.15.1. > >> > >> I do not have any problem on a VirtualBox/Ubuntu 8.10, same VM. > > > > Hmm, as that is a major version change in Ubuntu we