Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Indeed, sounds very promising but what does it mean ? There does not seem to be any description in the issue tracker either, or maybe I missed it. What we integrated is a model (two classes) that andrei wrote based on the old debugger. The old debugger does not make the distinction

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi igor since you were at the meeting where we built the list of actions, you could also have edited the entry and add more information. Camille was nice to take notes for everbody and to open issues. I added contents. Now we can also use a bad and private wiki to store information that is

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Yep, very good example of faked quality. Making changes at the rate of Pharo is demanding and I understand the will to by-pass some quality rules. But then, any one wanting to give lessons should observe the real usage of the bug tracker and think again, because this is far from being an

[Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
30022 - 10032 Integrate new debugger https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10032 Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/Pharo30/diff/DebuggerModel-EstebanLorenzano.23 http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/Pharo30/diff/Spec-Debugger-EstebanLorenzano.33

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-05 Thread Martin Dias
Sounds great. No idea how to notice the difference, but I tried the Fuel out stack option and it works. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: 30022 - 10032 Integrate new debugger https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10032 Diff information:

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-05 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 05 Apr 2013, at 17:18, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds great. No idea how to notice the difference, but I tried the Fuel out stack option and it works. Indeed, sounds very promising but what does it mean ? There does not seem to be any description in the issue tracker

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-05 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-04-05, at 17:29, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 05 Apr 2013, at 17:18, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds great. No idea how to notice the difference, but I tried the Fuel out stack option and it works. Indeed, sounds very promising but what does it

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-05 Thread p...@highoctane.be
One question: why is the debugged menu (right click thing) taking so long to show up where the world menu pops almost immediately? I wonder. 2013/4/5 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com On 2013-04-05, at 17:29, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 05 Apr 2013, at 17:18, Martin

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-05 Thread Camillo Bruni
indeed strange... To me it looks like the pragma collector spends a lot of time fetching stuff. And I would even say it happens twice per menu popup? On 2013-04-05, at 17:53, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: One question: why is the debugged menu (right click thing) taking so long

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-05 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Where should I look to see that? Curious me :-) 2013/4/5 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com indeed strange... To me it looks like the pragma collector spends a lot of time fetching stuff. And I would even say it happens twice per menu popup? On 2013-04-05, at 17:53, p...@highoctane.be

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-05 Thread Camillo Bruni
I opened a debugger, then I just sampled the UI process (WorldMenu System Start profiling UI) then I right clicked a couple of times and moved the cursor out of the screen on top to stop the profiling. After that you have a pretty nice list :) On 2013-04-05, at 18:51, p...@highoctane.be

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-05 Thread Andrei Vasile Chis
Just a few comments about this update. Right now the current debugger is unchanged. This update only added some classes to the image The new debugger is far from completed and until it's finished both will be in the image. You can only open the new debugger from the Pre-Debug window if you choose

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-05 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote I just sampled the UI process Cool trick!! - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/update-3-0-30022-tp4679777p4679839.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-05 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Yep, very good example of faked quality. Making changes at the rate of Pharo is demanding and I understand the will to by-pass some quality rules. But then, any one wanting to give lessons should observe the real usage of the bug tracker and think again, because this is far from being an isolated