Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-07 Thread Sabine Knöfel
I also worked with Envy for more than 10 years and after getting used to it (which took a certain time), it was the stable base for my daily work. Now I am learning to work with metacello/monticello. I find myself regularly thinking "hm, in Envy it was ...". I think that taking some of the pri

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-07 Thread stephane ducasse
This is not a question of wanting or not. The key question is - does it scale - do we have the manpower to maintain it - is it key for the future Stef > Hi. > > And what you think about OOSCM which was presented at last ESUG (and maybe at > 2010 too)? > > Does Pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-07 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi. And what you think about OOSCM which was presented at last ESUG(and maybe at 2010 too)? Does Pharo wants such kind of technology?

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-07 Thread Marten Feldtmann
Alexandre, I had the same feeling, when I had to use it starting around 1997 in our company :-) We are now C#'pers, but it is interesting to see, that one item is remembered by all persons in our team from the Smalltalk-epoche in our company in a friendly way: ENVY. This was the item, whic

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-06 Thread Alexandre Bergel
>> Just a question: Is there any plan for a Metacello 2? >> We have learnt a lot and we have a clear idea on a number of versioning >> scenarios. What do we want the future of packaging in Pharo to look like? > > can you describe your scenario because we want versionner++ to support some > keys

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-06 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi Marten, Frankly speaking, I find Envy way too complicated. I am using it these days and I am really not happy with. If I have to read a book to understand how it works, than there is no way I can teach students on how to use it in a reasonable amount of time. Configuration Map, Application,

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
martin we worked with envy during 8 years for the moose dev on VW and I have the book of joseph. Now what is the process? during dev everybody load bleeding edge of the current maps? when frozen exact ersion are loaded? Stef > In all the discussions about how to manage/organize Smalltalk code

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-06 Thread Marten Feldtmann
In all the discussions about how to manage/organize Smalltalk code - I would like to add, that ENVY (though it's so old) with its config maps, applications, prerequisites is a pretty good example how it works. Take a look at the only available ENVY implementation today (VAST) and think about t

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Just a question: Is there any plan for a Metacello 2? > We have learnt a lot and we have a clear idea on a number of versioning > scenarios. What do we want the future of packaging in Pharo to look like? can you describe your scenario bec

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-05 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Just a question: Is there any plan for a Metacello 2? We have learnt a lot and we have a clear idea on a number of versioning scenarios. What do we want the future of packaging in Pharo to look like? Alexandre On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > http://stackoverflow.com/questi

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-02 Thread Tobias Pape
Am 02.04.2013 um 13:15 schrieb Damien Cassou : > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15762706/how-to-define-a-configurationof-with-a-development-version-that-depends-on-a-ba http://stackoverflow.com/a/15763244/1197440

[Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-02 Thread Damien Cassou
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15762706/how-to-define-a-configurationof-with-a-development-version-that-depends-on-a-ba -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill