[Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-15 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Hello all, I managed to create an install script; as I suspected would be case, it was very anticlimactic. I tried creating a password-protected directory under my personal web site, but that did not go well. The authentication is weird, so it was probably asking a lot. A directory repositor

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Hello all, > > I managed to create an install script; as I suspected would be case, > it was very anticlimactic. I tried creating a password-protected > directory under my personal web site, but that did not go well. The > authenticat

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-15 Thread Lukas Renggli
> Does Monticello/PackageInfo see a change in method category (aka package) as > a change to the package?  It appears not, and it worries me a little in that > it seems to make it easy to lose work by forgetting to save it. The MCWorkingCopy class is notified about changes in the system and mark

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-15 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
[mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:58 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > He

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
nria.fr > ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:58 PM > To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few > observations > > > On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >>

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-15 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
2:31 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations > > Stef, > > In terms of response times, even with a lot of things turned off, I > was still surprised at how long it takes to change from even one > method to anothe

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-15 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
the sense the wait cursors are displayed, on Linux, for a > > smaller fraction of the down time than on Windows. > > > > Bill > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-15 Thread Adrian Lienhard
0 mb. > >> Also, I get the sense the wait cursors are displayed, on Linux, for a >> smaller fraction of the down time than on Windows. >> >> Bill >> >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-boun...

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-15 Thread Alain Plantec
achine >> (xp), with FreeType in use, and it's ok with the standard tools and >> the w2k theme. >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lis

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-15 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Alain Plantec Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:19 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations Adrian Lienhard a écrit : &

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-15 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Alain Plantec [alain.plan...@free.fr] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:19 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations Adrian Lienhard a écrit : > Bill, > &

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
; ] On Behalf Of Alain Plantec [alain.plan...@free.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:19 PM > To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few > observations > > Adrian Lienhard a écrit : >> Bill, >> >>

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-16 Thread Gary Chambers
- From: "Schwab,Wilhelm K" To: ; Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:07 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations On my crusty old Linux box: 155339805 bytecodes/sec; 3931964 sends/sec However, I always like to test on less than my customers wi

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-16 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:27 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations Sounds like your machine is 4 times slower than ours. which is good we should all have machine like that to make pharo fast On Jul 16, 2009, at

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-16 Thread Benoit St-Jean
) From: Gary Chambers To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:51:59 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations In the Windows camp, Watery2 theme... Vista 64bit (32bit VM, of course), 4GB DDR2-800, Q9550 (2.8GHz), Pharo0.1Core

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-16 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
gt; *To:* Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:51:59 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few > observations > > In the Windows camp, Watery2 theme... > > Vista 64bit (32bit VM, of course), 4GB DDR2-800,

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-16 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Here are my numbers. Computer: Thinkpad T61,Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 @ 2GHz, 2GB RAM) OS: Windows XP SP3 Seaside 2.8.3 One Click Image: '157248157 bytecodes/sec; 4708854 sends/sec' Seaside 2.8.4 One Click Image: '158907510 bytecodes/sec; 4592283 sends/sec' pharo0.1-10373web09.07.2: '156479217 byt

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-16 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
I think it has no sense to test with several images. Look adrian comment "This basically measures how many bytecodes and messages the VM can execute per second." So, I guess it is a benchmark for VM + hardware. I don't think the image can influence much here. Am I correct? best, Mariano On Thu

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-16 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:46 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations I think it has no sense to test with several images. Look adrian comment "

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
30869 sends/sec' > > Time millisecondsToRun: [ > Browser fullOnClass: Object selector: #at:. > World displayWorld] 677 > > Still feels quite responsive even on that! > > Regards, Gary > > - Original Message - > From: "Schwab,Wilhelm K" >

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-16 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2009/7/16 Mariano Martinez Peck : > I think it has no sense to test with several images. Look adrian comment > > "This basically measures how many bytecodes and messages the VM can > execute per second." > > So, I guess it is a benchmark for VM + hardware. I don't think the image > can influence mu

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

2009-07-16 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > > > With the latest pharo-web, with NOD32 antivirus disabled, the speed up > was pretty significant. > yes. Nod32 WON'T let you use Squeak, Pharo, Quis or whatever. You can notice this when you use monticello. As the .changes is being