[Pharo-users] Blog Entry About Pharo

2013-06-07 Thread Bahman Movaqar
Hi all, I wrote a blog entry[1] about Pharo and would appreciate your opinions and possible corrections. PS: Anonymous comments are enabled on my website. I had to disable user creation to fight spam. However if you'd like a user, I'll be pleased to create one for you. [1] http://www.bahmanm.

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks :) This is less work for us and the process can automatically check the code and run the tests automatically. Stef On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:16 PM, José Comesaña wrote: > Ok, I will correct it tomorrow. > > Txs > > > > El 07/06/2013, a las 21:45, Stéphane Ducasse > escribió: > >> Jose

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread José Comesaña
Ok, I will correct it tomorrow. Txs El 07/06/2013, a las 21:45, Stéphane Ducasse escribió: > Jose > > normally we do not summit code in the pane of the bug tracker, we commit a > slice (click + slice in the monticello browser) > in the inbox folder. > > Stef > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:12

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Jose normally we do not summit code in the pane of the bug tracker, we commit a slice (click + slice in the monticello browser) in the inbox folder. Stef On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > tx I will look at it. > > Stef > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:57 PM, José Comesaña wrot

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
tx I will look at it. Stef On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:57 PM, José Comesaña wrote: > Done. > > I hope I have made it correctly. If not, please tell me. > > Regards > > 2013/6/7 Stéphane Ducasse > Here it is https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10869 > > Stef > > > > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:17

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 07 Jun 2013, at 19:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> >> On 07 Jun 2013, at 11:07, Markus Fritsche wrote: >> >>> Hello Sven & List, >>> >>> On 07.06.2013 10:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Yes, it is an important problem

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread José Comesaña
Done. I hope I have made it correctly. If not, please tell me. Regards 2013/6/7 Stéphane Ducasse > Here it is https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10869 > > Stef > > > > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > wrote: > > > > Hi again. > > I have one first test for #readFrom:pattern:

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Here it is https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10869 Stef On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > >> Hi again. >> >> I have one first test for #readFrom:pattern:. What can I do now to send it, >> where, to whom?. > > I will create a bug entry for you and you create a sl

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> Hi again. > > I have one first test for #readFrom:pattern:. What can I do now to send it, > where, to whom?. I will create a bug entry for you and you create a slice with the test and the fix and you publish it in the pharo inbox. Stef > > Regards > > 2013/6/7 Sven Van Caekenberghe >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on Raspberry Pi

2013-06-07 Thread btc
Tony Giaccone wrote: I recently got a Raspberry Pi and was pleasantly surprised to see that smalltalk is part of the image. I quickly did a search to see if Pharo was available. While there was a flurry of messages about getting a version that would work on the. Pi. I haven't seem anything say

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread José Comesaña
Hi again. I have one first test for #readFrom:pattern:. What can I do now to send it, where, to whom?. Regards 2013/6/7 Sven Van Caekenberghe > > On 07 Jun 2013, at 14:28, José Comesaña wrote: > > > Answers in red. > > > > Regards > > > > 2013/6/7 Sven Van Caekenberghe > > > > On 07 Jun 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 07 Jun 2013, at 11:07, Markus Fritsche wrote: > >> Hello Sven & List, >> >> On 07.06.2013 10:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> Yes, it is an important problem (but the trigger is a change in Ubuntu >>> 13.04). I am not an U

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Paul DeBruicker
And the pharo2 linux all-in-one runs in 116ms on my hardware on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. On 06/07/2013 09:35 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote: > On 07.06.2013 17:55, Paul DeBruicker wrote: >> From the below it seems to be something with running on linux 64bits >> with a UI slows it down by a factor of 10x

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Markus Fritsche
On 07.06.2013 17:55, Paul DeBruicker wrote: From the below it seems to be something with running on linux 64bits with a UI slows it down by a factor of 10x. Command line per Camillo below on ubuntu 13.04 64bit on the hardware was: 134ms Using Pharo-2 windows all in one on a windows xp virtual

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Paul DeBruicker
>From the below it seems to be something with running on linux 64bits with a UI slows it down by a factor of 10x. Command line per Camillo below on ubuntu 13.04 64bit on the hardware was: 134ms Using Pharo-2 windows all in one on a windows xp virtualbox VM was: 163ms Using Pharo-2 linux all in

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Camillo Bruni
Can you try on the command line only? curl get.pharo.org/30+vm | bash ./pharo Pharo.image eval "[SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun" On 2013-06-07, at 17:12, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > >> My laptop is: >> >> [SystemNav

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Paul DeBruicker
OK. I'm going to check on a 12.04 vm and windows xp vm on this hardware right now. I'll report back in a bit On 06/07/2013 08:13 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote: > I'll check with some older hardware; I have something slower than yours, > but I'll have the results later tonight. > > Thierry > >

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > My laptop is: > > [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 1518 > > (3.0): [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 117 I have a slow machine: 1.8Ghz Core i5 in a MacBook Air. It auto-overclocks to 2.8 Ghz when

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Goubier Thierry
I'll check with some older hardware; I have something slower than yours, but I'll have the results later tonight. Thierry Le 07/06/2013 17:04, Paul DeBruicker a écrit : Sounds like I need some new hardware then? On 06/07/2013 07:16 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote: Le 07/06/2013 16:00, Sven Va

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Paul DeBruicker
Sounds like I need some new hardware then? On 06/07/2013 07:16 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote: > > > Le 07/06/2013 16:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : >> >> On 07 Jun 2013, at 15:44, Paul DeBruicker wrote: >> >>> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran >>> the sea

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Paul DeBruicker
My laptop is: [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 1518 On 06/07/2013 07:07 AM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2013-06-07, at 16:03, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: >> >>> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on Raspberry Pi

2013-06-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Tony, On 07 Jun 2013, at 16:52, Tony Giaccone wrote: > I recently got a Raspberry Pi and was pleasantly surprised to see that > smalltalk is part of the image. I quickly did a search to see if Pharo was > available. While there was a flurry of messages about getting a version that > would wor

[Pharo-users] Pharo on Raspberry Pi

2013-06-07 Thread Tony Giaccone
I recently got a Raspberry Pi and was pleasantly surprised to see that smalltalk is part of the image. I quickly did a search to see if Pharo was available. While there was a flurry of messages about getting a version that would work on the. Pi. I haven't seem anything saying it had happened.

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 07/06/2013 16:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : On 07 Jun 2013, at 15:44, Paul DeBruicker wrote: For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long does it ta

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-06-07, at 16:03, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > >> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran >> the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 >> seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long do

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran > the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 > seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long does it take on your machine? > [SystemNavigation new brow

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 07 Jun 2013, at 15:44, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran > the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 > seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long does it take on your machine? [ SystemNavigation new allSende

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
>> >> >> I had made the fixes myself, creating a new class for dates (I don't need >> the complexity of Date just for determining if a date is past, I don't need >> date arithmetic either). I just wanted to inform, mainly because the bug >> seems to be still present in Pharo 3.0. >> >> Anyway

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
can you open a bug entry and publish a slice so that we do not fix it. Stef On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi José, > > On 07 Jun 2013, at 12:02, José Comesaña wrote: > >> Hello everybody. >> >> I would like to add a new improvement to this thread. >> >> I hav

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Paul DeBruicker
For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long does it take on your machine? On 06/06/2013 11:27 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Paul D

Re: [Pharo-users] account search

2013-06-07 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote > who is > remove@ > on fogbugz? I thought maybe it was Benjamin since he disappeared from the user list... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/account-search-tp4692121p4692176.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing lis

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Marcus Denker-4 wrote > Normally I thought that fogbugz should send you updates on bugs you > reported? > We need to check that. There's a plugin [1] but it requires the user to enable the preference. Maybe there's a way to enable globally by default... [1] http://forum.world.st/Auto-Subscribe-in

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 07 Jun 2013, at 14:28, José Comesaña wrote: > Answers in red. > > Regards > > 2013/6/7 Sven Van Caekenberghe > > On 07 Jun 2013, at 13:26, José Comesaña wrote: > > > Thank you Sven. > > > > I had made the fixes myself, creating a new class for dates (I don't need > > the complexity of

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread José Comesaña
Answers in red. Regards 2013/6/7 Sven Van Caekenberghe > > On 07 Jun 2013, at 13:26, José Comesaña wrote: > > > Thank you Sven. > > > > I had made the fixes myself, creating a new class for dates (I don't > need the complexity of Date just for determining if a date is past, I don't > need date

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Paul DeBruicker
I thought the profiles showed it wasn't specific to my image but happened on both Pharo 1.4 & 2 using a cog vm on Ubuntu 13.04 64 bit. On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:44 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > could we get the image so that we can try? > > Stef > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Marcus Denker wro

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 07 Jun 2013, at 13:26, José Comesaña wrote: > Thank you Sven. > > I had made the fixes myself, creating a new class for dates (I don't need the > complexity of Date just for determining if a date is past, I don't need date > arithmetic either). I just wanted to inform, mainly because the b

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread Donald
On 6/6/2013 2:14 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: can you save an image with the inspector opened on both x and y, x asTime and y asTime and provide a link to it? like that I can inspect it in all detail... yes. probably tomorrow. please ping me if I forget. thanks On 2013-06-06, at 17:51, dmacq

Re: [Pharo-users] account search

2013-06-07 Thread Clément Bera
No don't remove it. It is when someone is assigned to a project and wants to be removed. Then he selects this guy instead. 2013/6/7 Sven Van Caekenberghe > > On 07 Jun 2013, at 11:42, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > > who is rem...@me.com on fogbugz? > > I don't know, but I am pretty sure you can s

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread José Comesaña
Thank you Sven. I had made the fixes myself, creating a new class for dates (I don't need the complexity of Date just for determining if a date is past, I don't need date arithmetic either). I just wanted to inform, mainly because the bug seems to be still present in Pharo 3.0. Anyway, your solut

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote: > On 07.06.2013 11:27, Camillo Bruni wrote: >> you can register on the penelope page. >> avoid the dot in your gmail address (BTW: gmail ignores the dots anyway. you >> can put as many dots as you want and still receive mails). > Ah, thanks -

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi José, On 07 Jun 2013, at 12:02, José Comesaña wrote: > Hello everybody. > > I would like to add a new improvement to this thread. > > I have noticed that Date class has a bug, or at least something to improve in > readFrom:pattern: method. The initial comment states that "A year given usi

Re: [Pharo-users] DateAndTime>>asTime

2013-06-07 Thread José Comesaña
Hello everybody. I would like to add a new improvement to this thread. I have noticed that Date class has a bug, or at least something to improve in readFrom:pattern: method. The initial comment states that "A year given using only two decimals is considered to be >2000.". But this seems to be i

Re: [Pharo-users] account search

2013-06-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 07 Jun 2013, at 11:42, Camillo Bruni wrote: > who is rem...@me.com on fogbugz? I don't know, but I am pretty sure you can safely remove that account :-)

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Markus Fritsche
On 07.06.2013 11:27, Camillo Bruni wrote: you can register on the penelope page. avoid the dot in your gmail address (BTW: gmail ignores the dots anyway. you can put as many dots as you want and still receive mails). Ah, thanks - I think I used that form before with the dot. When should I cons

[Pharo-users] account search

2013-06-07 Thread Camillo Bruni
who is rem...@me.com on fogbugz?

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2013-06-07, at 11:20, Markus Fritsche wrote: > >> Hello Marcus & List, >> >> On 07.06.2013 10:44, Marcus Denker wrote: >>> Normally I thought that fogbugz should send you updates on bugs you >>> reported? We need to check that. >> I

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-06-07, at 11:20, Markus Fritsche wrote: > Hello Marcus & List, > > On 07.06.2013 10:44, Marcus Denker wrote: >> Normally I thought that fogbugz should send you updates on bugs you >> reported? We need to check that. > I got one mail with an URL that I could check for updates... >> In

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote: >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/7559/Plugins-Primitives-no-longer-work-after-a-while >> (it has a parent case for 2.0) > Can you link to Penelope about the second issue? I'd like to help hunt these > two since ubuntu-13.04 i

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Markus Fritsche
Hello Marcus & List, On 07.06.2013 10:44, Marcus Denker wrote: Normally I thought that fogbugz should send you updates on bugs you reported? We need to check that. I got one mail with an URL that I could check for updates... In this case, we have fixed in in 3.0 and 2.0 (the bug as a "Parent

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 07 Jun 2013, at 11:07, Markus Fritsche wrote: > Hello Sven & List, > > On 07.06.2013 10:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> Yes, it is an important problem (but the trigger is a change in Ubuntu >> 13.04). I am not an Ubuntu desktop user, I can only hope that those who are >> will help. >

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Markus Fritsche
Hello Sven & List, On 07.06.2013 10:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Yes, it is an important problem (but the trigger is a change in Ubuntu 13.04). I am not an Ubuntu desktop user, I can only hope that those who are will help. Well, I have 13.04 on a few laptops (2GB Atom netbook, 8GB i7 dual c

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi Markus, On 07 Jun 2013, at 10:26, Markus Fritsche wrote: > Hello, > > I reported a bug I found in > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10849_d0g95e46s78671vi > > The issue was closed in fogbugz. I couldn't really figure out why, until I > looked at Penelope to find out that bug was consi

Re: [Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote: > Hello, > > I reported a bug I found in > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10849_d0g95e46s78671vi > > The issue was closed in fogbugz. I couldn't really figure out why, until I > looked at Penelope to find out that bug was considered a

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-06-07, at 08:27, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > >> Hi Damien, >> >> >> Because of the attached Message Tally outputs I don't think the problem >> is specific to changes I've made to an image. I also don't think that >> there is mu

[Pharo-users] Changes-File & caching

2013-06-07 Thread Markus Fritsche
Hello, I reported a bug I found in https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10849_d0g95e46s78671vi The issue was closed in fogbugz. I couldn't really figure out why, until I looked at Penelope to find out that bug was considered a duplicate. I had a hard time finding that information and the infor

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

2013-06-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
could we get the image so that we can try? Stef On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > >> Hi Damien, >> >> >> Because of the attached Message Tally outputs I don't think the problem >> is specific to changes I've made