Re: [Pharo-users] Are we able to run pharo images in a read only environment?

2017-06-27 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hi Sven, I'm curious how you are running your image. I am following this tutorial - https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/compute/scripting-languages-for-aws-lambda-running-php-ruby-and-go/ And am running pharo like the GO example by exec'ing via node js. My aim was to write an Alexa service in pharo vs

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6 bootstrap how to

2017-06-27 Thread Tim Mackinnon
This is great work - I think ultimately we can show the strengths of Smalltalk on images running in unusual places. Tim Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Jun 2017, at 12:05, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > > > 2017-06-26 18:19 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon : >> This is very interesting… what would you need i

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnConstants missing 511 in default Pharo 6.0 32 image?

2017-06-27 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Ah - I see. Is this where the minimal images would help? As in CI would just take a base image and just load zn and hence run the new initialise anyway and so avoid this? I'm a bit confused how how base images are built to even have this problem In a world of CI? Tim Sent from my iPhone > On

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJS

2017-06-27 Thread Craig Latta
Hi-- Aik-Siong writes: > Craig Latta is doing something interesting[1] with SqueakJS which is > an optimized Smalltalk VM in JavaScript and HTML5. It is supposedly > able to run Smalltalk fast inside the browser and access the > JavaScript world freely. I think this route will benefit great

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoCloud drops VM hosting and focuses on Ephemeric Cloud

2017-06-27 Thread mikefilonov
Hi Yuriy, >So is it for static applications only? Short answer is "no". The ephemeric cloud only restricts saving files to local disk. This means, only Image persistence is not working with Ephemeric cloud. However, any other form of persistence works. You can connect Images in Ephemeric cloud

Re: [Pharo-users] Are we able to run pharo images in a read only environment?

2017-06-27 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2017-06-27 16:15 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : >> On 27 Jun 2017, at 21:00, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: >> It would be good to know how fast does the image boot and start >> execution in the context of a service billed at the sub second scale. > > Sadly I have the impression we lost some spee

Re: [Pharo-users] Are we able to run pharo images in a read only environment?

2017-06-27 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 27 Jun 2017, at 18:05, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > Hi - I am trying to run a pharo image in lambda (as an experiment) - however > I get an error from Pharo about not being able to write to the changes file? > > As I am just evaluating some code - I’m not really coding, so don’t need a > cha

Re: [Pharo-users] Are we able to run pharo images in a read only environment?

2017-06-27 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 27 Jun 2017, at 21:00, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > > Interesting experiment. > > It would be good to know how fast does the image boot and start > execution in the context of a service billed at the sub second scale. Sadly I have the impression we lost some speed: ~/pharo64$ ./pharo Ph

Re: [Pharo-users] Are we able to run pharo images in a read only environment?

2017-06-27 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Interesting experiment. It would be good to know how fast does the image boot and start execution in the context of a service billed at the sub second scale. Esteban A. Maringolo 2017-06-27 13:05 GMT-03:00 Tim Mackinnon : > Hi - I am trying to run a pharo image in lambda (as an experiment) - h

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6 bootstrap how to

2017-06-27 Thread Hilaire
It will be helpfull, because from here I don't understand not much how I should get started. But I guess it is too early in the process as things may still be moving. Le 27/06/2017 à 13:02, Pavel Krivanek a écrit : > Right now we do not have such source. > > -- Pavel -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.e

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnConstants missing 511 in default Pharo 6.0 32 image?

2017-06-27 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 27 Jun 2017, at 18:30, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > Yes ZnConstants initialize > Works, > > When I inspected the constants before this, it seemed to have everything > except 511 (the last one). > > Is there a load error in Pharo - as if the initialise code is correct, and > the images are

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnConstants missing 511 in default Pharo 6.0 32 image?

2017-06-27 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Yes ZnConstants initialize Works, When I inspected the constants before this, it seemed to have everything except 511 (the last one). Is there a load error in Pharo - as if the initialise code is correct, and the images are built with a CI process - I’m wondering how it gets into that state?

[Pharo-users] Are we able to run pharo images in a read only environment?

2017-06-27 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hi - I am trying to run a pharo image in lambda (as an experiment) - however I get an error from Pharo about not being able to write to the changes file? As I am just evaluating some code - I’m not really coding, so don’t need a changes file - is there a command line option to not require it? A

Re: [Pharo-users] Using Iceberg to edit regular text files ?

2017-06-27 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 27 Jun 2017, at 16:11, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > >> On 27 Jun 2017, at 16:05, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>> On 27 Jun 2017, at 15:55, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>> Is it possible to use Iceberg to edit regular text files directly in Pharo ? >>> >>> Specific

Re: [Pharo-users] Using Iceberg to edit regular text files ?

2017-06-27 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 27 Jun 2017, at 16:05, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > Hi, > >> On 27 Jun 2017, at 15:55, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >> Is it possible to use Iceberg to edit regular text files directly in Pharo ? >> >> Specifically I would like to be able to edit README.md and similar files. >> Esp

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnConstants missing 511 in default Pharo 6.0 32 image?

2017-06-27 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi Tim, > On 27 Jun 2017, at 15:50, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > Hi - I have been slowly working my way through some of the pharo components > and tutorials and when trying out ZnEasy with a password protected api, I got > a talkback when I mistyped a password. > It looks like ZnConstants in a f

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnConstants missing 511 in default Pharo 6.0 32 image?

2017-06-27 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 27 Jun 2017, at 16:02, Juraj Kubelka wrote: > > Hi, > > I remember that Sven did some changes related to the constants in about month > or two months ago. But, I do not think that it was integrated to the Pharo 6 > release. Yeah, we forgot to put that in, it (the changed #initialize) is

Re: [Pharo-users] Using Iceberg to edit regular text files ?

2017-06-27 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, > On 27 Jun 2017, at 15:55, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > Is it possible to use Iceberg to edit regular text files directly in Pharo ? > > Specifically I would like to be able to edit README.md and similar files. > Especially when using a all-in-one, the repo on file becomes quite hidd

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnConstants missing 511 in default Pharo 6.0 32 image?

2017-06-27 Thread Juraj Kubelka
Hi, I remember that Sven did some changes related to the constants in about month or two months ago. But, I do not think that it was integrated to the Pharo 6 release. Juraj > El 27-06-2017, a las 15:50, Tim Mackinnon escribió: > > Hi - I have been slowly working my way through some of the p

[Pharo-users] Using Iceberg to edit regular text files ?

2017-06-27 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Is it possible to use Iceberg to edit regular text files directly in Pharo ? Specifically I would like to be able to edit README.md and similar files. Especially when using a all-in-one, the repo on file becomes quite hidden, and the whole idea is to hide the command line anyway, so it feels as

[Pharo-users] ZnConstants missing 511 in default Pharo 6.0 32 image?

2017-06-27 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hi - I have been slowly working my way through some of the pharo components and tutorials and when trying out ZnEasy with a password protected api, I got a talkback when I mistyped a password. It looks like ZnConstants in a fresh Pharo 6.0 32 image excludes 511 from its constants. The code loo

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6 bootstrap how to

2017-06-27 Thread Pavel Krivanek
2017-06-26 18:19 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon : > This is very interesting… what would you need in that image to use the > remote debugging demo’d at Pharo Days 2017 - as I’m assuming for a server > environment with a web-app, you could have a lean core image and then > remotely attach to it to underst

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6 bootstrap how to

2017-06-27 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Right now we do not have such source. -- Pavel 2017-06-26 18:42 GMT+02:00 Hilaire : > Do you have a page explaining the process so people can try out? > > Hilaire > > Le 26/06/2017 à 16:29, Pavel Krivanek a écrit : > > You need to do it manually. You should probably start with own copy of > > Ba