Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

2020-02-08 Thread Pavel Krivanek
so 8. 2. 2020 v 23:33 odesílatel horrido napsal: > So this forum is only for Pharo newcomers who have questions? Seems rather > limiting. > > When I join other language forums, I look for information about the > language > I'm investigating as a newcomer. This can include the language's >

Re: [Pharo-users] NeoJSONParseError: invalid input: ' while parsing a Wikipedia exported article.

2020-02-08 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, My hypothesis was closer to Erik's but I thought that being a JSON taken from Wikimedia API, it should be correct. I didn't realize that I converted it to STON to preserve line breaks and improve diff friendliness. After using `STON fromString:` as advised by Peter, everything worked well.

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

2020-02-08 Thread horrido
Self-promotion??? I generally dislike inserting myself personally into Smalltalk advocacy. My campaign is all about Smalltalk; I'm just the vehicle. If you're referring to my comment "at the risk of sounding immodest," I am rightfully proud of my video. It does a damn good job of promoting Pharo.

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

2020-02-08 Thread Pierce Ng
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 05:50:18PM -0500, Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users wrote: > MAYBE we need another list... Maybe Richard just needs to adjust the style of his mails... > This is getting ridiculous!  The guy spends energy, time, effort and is able > to gather 13K in prizes and puts Pharo to

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

2020-02-08 Thread Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- I guess I have to re-ask again since nobody answered my question from this week... Where can we post Pharo questions/remarks/thoughts/you-might-want-to-have-a-look-at-this-cool-idea/whatever (or anything that could be of any interest to Pharoers) ? MAYBE we need

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

2020-02-08 Thread Guillermo Polito
Hi Richard, I’d like to invite you to refrain yourself from posting such off-topic messages in the future. This list is for people to *ask* questions about Pharo. Not to diffuse any kind of propaganda (pharo related or not). You’re not asking a question about Pharo, nor answering a question

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

2020-02-08 Thread horrido
So this forum is only for Pharo newcomers who have questions? Seems rather limiting. When I join other language forums, I look for information about the language I'm investigating as a newcomer. This can include the language's capabilities, limitations, real-world usage, new tools, philosophical

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

2020-02-08 Thread Richard Sargent
I've found this topic both interesting and upsetting at times. I do understand the desire to address Pharo issues without getting sidetracked by other topics. However, this particular thread started as a Pharo user's success story. Didn't it? Isn't Pharo the implementation used for the contest?

[Pharo-users] Setting a model for a Spec UI in Pharo 8

2020-02-08 Thread Bren
Hi Pharo friends, TL;DR: How should one open a presenter on a user-specified model? Is SpPresenterWithModel>>setAnnouncingObject: missing a call to modelChanged? The long version: I am trying to write a UI for my threat modeling tool using Spec in Pharo 8. I had trouble getting my first

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

2020-02-08 Thread Guillermo Polito
Hi Richard, I’d like to invite you to refrain yourself from posting such off-topic messages in the future. This list is for people to *ask* questions about Pharo. Not to diffuse any kind of propaganda (pharo related or not). You’re not asking a question about Pharo, nor answering a question

[Pharo-users] The results are in!

2020-02-08 Thread Richard Kenneth Eng
Round 1 — #1 Leading Team: https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ I'm actually quite amazed by their effort. They surpassed my expectations. At the risk of sounding immodest, I think this is a terrific way to promote Smalltalk (Pharo). I think the video is an absolute blast. Richard

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

2020-02-08 Thread TedVanGaalen
Hi Ben Maybe you misunderstood what I meant. I was thinking of Pharo-backward-compatibility. not Smalltalk-backward-compatibility I am only suggesting that Pharo should be downward compatible (that is, within Pharo's scope only). meaning that everything built wit Pharo version X should load

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

2020-02-08 Thread horrido
I agree completely. Pharo is a Smalltalk, but it need not be constrained by Smalltalk-80. Pharo is completely free to chart its own course. As far as I can tell, Nik Boyd's Hoot Smalltalk is doing the same thing. This is purely a PR matter. Pharo's reputation doesn't want to be tarred with

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

2020-02-08 Thread Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- Smalltalk didn't "fail". We just didn't have the CPU power at the time to achieve our dreams! And "Smalltalk is slow" was tagged forever besides the name... 2020-02-08 07:17, Ben Coman wrote:The aim of the advertised statement that Pharo-is-not-Smalltalk is to avoid you

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

2020-02-08 Thread Ben Coman
I am of the side of this argument that Pharo is a kind of Smalltalk, but the group that forked Squeak to create Pharo did so with the express intention of being separate-from-Smalltalk and we should respect that intention. Indeed here we can see three reasons why they feel the need to advertise

Re: [Pharo-users] NeoJSONParseError: invalid input: ' while parsing a Wikipedia exported article.

2020-02-08 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi, Like Erik says the input is indeed illegal JSON. JSON strings are delimited using double quotes not single quotes. There is no way around this, this is not optional. As Peter says, STON is more flexible. STON itself uses single quotes to be closer to Smalltalk. STON in its JSON

Re: [Pharo-users] NeoJSONParseError: invalid input: ' while parsing a Wikipedia exported article.

2020-02-08 Thread PBKResearch
Offray I have a workaround, not an explanation. I don't use NeoJSON, because for me the JSON facilities of STON are sufficient. So I tried you script with 'NeoJSONReader fromString:' replaced by 'STON fromString:' - everything worked perfectly, no parsing error. So clearly there is nothing

Re: [Pharo-users] NeoJSONParseError: invalid input: ' while parsing a Wikipedia exported article.

2020-02-08 Thread Erik Stel
Offray, JSON only allows double quotes for strings, not single quotes. Cheers, Erik -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html